vg|Computer World Bridge Championships,Segment 4_4,I,1,16,Jack,48,Wbridge5,86|
rs|3CE=,3CE=,3NS=,3NS+1,3SN=,3SN=,4HN+3,4HN+2,5CN-1,5DN-1,6CE=,6CE=,3NW+2,3NW+2,2CS=,3DWx-3,7NW=,6HW+1,5SSx+2,4SS+3,5CEx=,5HNx=,1NW+1,1NW+1,4SN=,4SS=,6SN-1,4SS+1,3CS=,2NS+1,4SN+1,2HW-1|
pn|Jack,Wbridge5,Jack,Wbridge5,Wbridge5,Jack,Wbridge5,Jack|pg||
qx|o1|st||md|3S985HQ74DAT84CT74,SKQ42HJ65DKQ9CQ98,SAT763HKT93DJ7CK3,SJHA82D6532CAJ652|sv|o|nt|Walddk2: Good morning and welcome back to Estoril in Portugal|pg||
nt|Walddk2: Final segment of 16 boards from the Computer World Championships|pg||
nt|Walddk2: Jack (Netherlands) vs. Wbridge5 (France)|pg||
nt|mrdct: player's just going over their pre-alerts?|pg||
nt|Walddk2: Welcome to Al Levy from USA, the organizer of these championships|pg||
nt|sartre: Hello all in the Open Room.  This is the account of Al Levy, to be used by commentators.|pg||
nt|sartre: We are here in rainy Estoril, Portugal.|pg||
nt|Walddk2: I guess the contestants need a cup of coffee before they start|pg||
nt|Walddk2: Or is it oil?|pg||
nt|Walddk2: they eat memory wafers, I am told|pg||
nt|Walddk2: :-)|pg||
mb|1S|mb|p|mb|2S|mb|p|nt|sartre: Our first guest commentator will be Stephen Smith of Bridge Baron.|pg||
mb|p|mb|3C|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|sartre: Bridge Baron sez: WB5 does well to balance here.|pg||
nt|Walddk2: I agree, but 3@C would not be everyone's choice|pg||
pc|s5|nt|sartre: Bridge Baron sez: WBridge5 took a surprising 86 to 48 IMP lead after the first three quarters.|pg||
pc|s2|pc|sA|pc|sJ|pg||
nt|sartre: Bridge Baron sez: Through two 16-board sets of the 64-board final, WBridge5 led 45 to 44 IMPs.|pg||
nt|Walddk2: The auction was exactly the same in the closed room|pg||
pc|h3|pc|h2|pc|hQ|pc|h5|pg||
pc|h7|pc|h6|nt|sartre: Bridge Baron sez: In the third quarter, WB5 put up a 41 to 4 margin and started dreaming of an upset.|pg||
pc|h9|pc|hA|pg||
nt|sartre: Bridge Baron sez: Jack is the four-time defending champion.|pg||
pc|d3|pc|dA|pc|d9|pc|d7|pg||
pc|h4|pc|hJ|pc|hK|pc|h8|pg||
nt|Walddk2: We are watching the Computer World Championships. Final 16-board segment of the final|pg||
pc|s3|pc|d2|nt|sartre: Bridge Baron sez: With the AD and the KC onside, not much drama in this contract.|pg||
pc|s8|pc|sQ|pg||
pc|sK|pc|s6|pc|d6|nt|Walddk2: At some point we will see if computers claim|pg||
pc|s9|pg||
pc|c9|pc|c3|pc|cJ|pc|c4|pg||
pc|d5|pc|d4|pc|dQ|pc|dJ|pg||
pc|c8|nt|mrdct: has to pick trumps|pg||
pc|cK|pc|cA|nt|Walddk2: Piece of cake|pg||
pc|c7|pg||
pc|c2|pc|cT|pc|cQ|pc|s7|pg||
nt|Walddk2: well done|pg||
nt|Walddk2: also making at the other table|pg||
mc|9|pg||
qx|c1|st||md|3S985HQ74DAT84CT74,SKQ42HJ65DKQ9CQ98,SAT763HKT93DJ7CK3,SJHA82D6532CAJ652|sv|o|nt|Walddk2: Good afternoon/evening and welcome back to Estoril in Portugal for the Bermuda Bowl, Venice Cup & Seniors Bowl. 21 matches of 20 boards in the round-robin, this is a round 9 match ...|pg||
nt|Walddk2: from the Bermuda Bowl|pg||
nt|Walddk2: Your commentators are David Probert, Sweden, Michael Rosenberg, USA, Michael Barel, Israel, Sergey Kustarov, Russia, Marcin Lesniewski, Poland, and Frans Jeunen, Belgium. I am ...|pg||
nt|Walddk2: Roland Wald from Denmark|pg||
nt|davpro: Evening all|pg||
nt|frenske: hi all|pg||
nt|mich-b: Hi all , good evening|pg||
nt|dinos1: hello everybody|pg||
nt|scotty: hi|pg||
nt|mich-b: Both these teams seem to be struggling at this stage of the tournament|pg||
nt|lesniak: hi all|pg||
nt|Walddk2: Poland much more than USA1|pg||
nt|Walddk2: Poland in a very disappointing 19th place out of 22 at this point|pg||
nt|mich-b: Well , I am sure USA1 are not very pleased with their position at the table , so far|pg||
nt|scotty: Poland is not fielding what would be considered their strongest team - a lot of big names are missing I think|pg||
nt|mich-b: the first 8 qualify for the 1/4 finals|pg||
nt|Walddk2: http://www.worldbridge1.org/tourn/Estoril.05/Estoril.htm  is the link to the official web site with much useful info such as participants, results and bulletins|pg||
nt|Walddk2: http://www.ecatsbridge.com/Events/wbf/2005estoril/default.asp  for system cards|pg||
nt|Walddk2: http://www.swangames.com/main/Bridgecast/Rama/Estoril_2005/estoril_2005.html  for running scores in all 3 series|pg||
nt|scotty: After S preempts in hearts, E-W slam is pretty good - in fact 7@d can be made, though it would be a triumph just to reach and make 6 (@d or @c)|pg||
nt|Walddk2: EW are definitely the most experienced of the Polish pairs|pg||
nt|mich-b: Perhaps the same can be said about NS too :)|pg||
nt|Walddk2: Indeed|pg||
nt|lesniak: Jassem-Martens are plying 2 dif system depending on vulnerabilyty|pg||
nt|mich-b: They are not lacking in experience either|pg||
nt|mich-b: Is this a new partnership , Marcin?|pg||
nt|Walddk2: Action soon, they are just about to finish board 2 in the closed room|pg||
nt|Walddk2: There is usually a 2-board delay between the 2 rooms|pg||
nt|lesniak: when vuln Thay play WJ(Polish club) ,strong club not vulner|pg||
nt|davpro: it could take a few minutes before they start. How many @h will S bid?|pg||
nt|mich-b: 4|pg||
nt|davpro: 1,3,4|pg||
nt|dinos1: interestin, I thought they play nat when vul :)|pg||
nt|lesniak: thay started to play togother just 1 year ago|pg||
nt|dinos1: I guess 4@h will be bid|pg||
nt|davpro: what will theopening be? NT range here?|pg||
nt|mich-b: I am with you , Sergei :)|pg||
nt|scotty: I think it is 12-14 here|pg||
nt|davpro: Then 1NT|pg||
nt|lesniak: sure|pg||
nt|dinos1: strong @c, so weak nt|pg||
nt|mich-b: We may have the same auction as in the closed room|pg||
nt|Walddk2: Good morning and welcome back to Estoril in Portugal for the Bermuda Bowl, Venice Cup & Seniors Bowl. 21 matches of 20 boards in the round-robin, this is a round 10 match from the ...|pg||
nt|Walddk2: Bermuda Bowl|pg||
nt|Walddk2: Your commentators are Liz McGowan, Scotland, Hedy Grey, Switzerland, Roger Bryant, England, Tim Bourke, Australia, and David Probert, Sweden. I am Roland Wald from Denmark|pg||
nt|davpro: good morning all|pg||
nt|roghog: Hi folks|pg||
nt|cuttysark: Good morning|pg||
nt|hedyg: thank you Roland:)) good morning everybody!!|pg||
nt|timb: good evening everyone |pg||
nt|Walddk2: :-)|pg||
nt|Walddk2: Afternoon anywhere?|pg||
nt|hedyg: lol|pg||
nt|Walddk2: India I guess|pg||
nt|Walddk2: Important note to the commentators:|pg||
nt|Walddk2: East is a  S H E|pg||
nt|Walddk2: Sofia Pessoa|pg||
nt|cuttysark: and a very fine player|pg||
nt|davpro: I always call them S,W,N and E and do not bother about the genderthing :-)|pg||
nt|hedyg: NS are playing 2/1 with 15/17 nt|pg||
nt|cuttysark: Wonder if SHE can pick up an imp by cashing 2 aces?|pg||
nt|davpro: He is west...SHE is east...|pg||
nt|hedyg: the lead aginst 4@h(not @s) was a small @h|pg||
nt|roghog: 5th vs 6th here, with 8 to qualify|pg||
nt|hedyg: it was played by S after a 1nt opening|pg||
nt|davpro: and Sweden are on place 543624 now (it feel like that anyway) :-(|pg||
nt|hedyg: pls note that on a @c lead and @d switch 4@h is -1|pg||
nt|roghog: ...if you guess @d|pg||
nt|hedyg: i think we have wait till 2 boards have been played in the other room?|pg||
nt|Walddk2: Play will start as soon as they finish board 2 in the closed room. Won't be long|pg||
nt|hedyg: no Roger, you lose 1@d(if you guess right) 2@cc and 1@s|pg||
nt|Walddk2: Doesn't help to guess diamonds|pg||
nt|roghog: yes, 2 down if misguess|pg||
nt|davpro: I think he ment that it is at least 1 down...|pg||
nt|hedyg: so making 4@h +2 is quite a result!|pg||
nt|hedyg: oh yes!! sry|pg||
nt|cuttysark: Surprised North did not open 1@H|pg||
nt|Walddk2: China and Portugal are 5th and 6th placed |pg||
nt|cuttysark: Betr Fu does|pg||
nt|Walddk2: Portugal have done particularly well|pg||
nt|davpro: That looks lika a 1NT opening to me|pg||
nt|hedyg: in 4 @s with @c lead you get a @h swutch, A@s @h ruff @d and @h ruff|pg||
nt|hedyg: switch even|pg||
nt|Walddk2: All 3 series, Bermuda Bowl (open), Venice Cup (women) and Seniors Bowl have 22 nations. They play a complete round-robin after which the 8 best advance to the quarter-finals|pg||
nt|cuttysark: I agree - if you play a weak NT!|pg||
nt|hedyg: Portugal got to play as hosting nation?|pg||
nt|cuttysark: Right|pg||
nt|roghog: I hate opening 1NT with a good M, but such is life...|pg||
nt|hedyg: they are doing far better than anybody expected!|pg||
nt|Zmud99: here we go..|pg||
nt|Walddk2: Seniors here, open room|pg||
nt|Walddk2: Your commentators are Carol Simon and Henry Bethe, USA, Martin Wüst, Germany, Jon Sveindal, Norway, and Hedy Grey, Switzerland. I am Roland Wald from Denmark|pg||
nt|desert: Hi all :-)|pg||
nt|hedyg: ty Roland:)) hello everybody!|pg||
nt|csimon: welcome everyone|pg||
nt|jbgood: Hi all:)|pg||
nt|henryb: Good Morning|pg||
nt|jbgood: some names in this room!!|pg||
nt|hedyg: i believe we have to wait for the CR to finish 2 boards first|pg||
nt|henryb: In a strange twist, Garozzo is playing American style while his opponents are strong clubbers|pg||
nt|desert: its always a special pleasure to watch Garozzo play :-) Here we can expect a very interesting match against the very strong US Team|pg||
nt|csimon: it's good to see that we have 4 tables in action now!|pg||
nt|henryb: good morning Carol|pg||
nt|hedyg: Garozzo/de Falco have been practicing on BBO for months now much to the pleasure of the kibbitzer|pg||
nt|csimon: good to 'see' you Henry @h|pg||
nt|Zmud99: We will start here in 10mns 43s exactly...|pg||
nt|hedyg: EW are playing a strong @c and 14-17 nt|pg||
nt|hedyg: ty Hervé|pg||
nt|hedyg: NS are playing 4 card @d, 15-17 nt and their very own system!|pg||
nt|hedyg: for all those who would like to get the players systems: http://www.ecatsbridge.org/Events/wbf/2005estoril/default.asp|pg||
nt|hedyg: on the Garozzo/de Falco CC keep winding down to get all pages|pg||
nt|desert: the north south system is probably influenced by Garozzos "Ambra", the one he wrote for the italian Juniors in 2000|pg||
nt|csimon: it's more fun to play 'guess what that bid means' :)))|pg||
nt|hedyg: very much so, but many changes have been made|pg||
nt|hedyg: we dont have to guess lol|pg||
nt|jbgood: I first saw Garozzo in a championship in 75 (Brighton - Europeans) and he was a thrill to watch. Even away from the table he was able to gather big crowds - for example in the ...|pg||
nt|jbgood: lobby of  the hotel where play took place - when he was down on his knees praying for "2 2's" in a backgammon game against the late Irving Rose:)|pg||
nt|csimon: especially when you've woken up at 5:00AM to do this - reading tiny print on CC's is a drag :)|pg||
nt|desert: in the closed room north south got lucky that East didnt find a reopening X after 2 He pass pass....;-)|pg||
nt|desert: That contract would have been at least 2 down and West has an obvious pass.....|pg||
nt|Walddk2: Good afternoon/evening and welcome back to Estoril in Portugal for the Bermuda Bowl, Venice Cup & Seniors Bowl. 21 matches of 20 boards in the round-robin, this is a round 12 match ...|pg||
nt|Walddk2: from the Bermuda Bowl|pg||
nt|Walddk2: Your commentators are John Swanson and Henry Bethe, USA, R Krishnan, India, Gerben Dirksen, Netherlands, and Victor Silverstone, England. I am Roland Wald from Denmark|pg||
nt|odysseus69: good afternoon all|pg||
nt|Walddk2: The names will change, don't worry|pg||
nt|Walddk2: You will have to wait a little. The closed room must have finished 2 boards first|pg||
nt|odysseus69: hi henry- long time since you lived in London and we played your system|pg||
nt|Walddk2: Welcome John, Gerben and Victor|pg||
nt|gerben42: NS play an unusual system, but very natural - 1-level is 14+ natural and forcing , 2-level 10 - 13 natural|pg||
nt|gerben42: only thing is 1@C might be 2 cards|pg||
nt|henryb: Good Afternoon, all|pg||
nt|gerben42: the links to the convention cards:|pg||
nt|gerben42: http://www.geocities.com/gerben47/conventioncards/nystrom-bertheau.pdf|pg||
nt|Walddk4: Hello Henry|pg||
nt|gerben42: http://www.geocities.com/gerben47/conventioncards/fantoni-nunes.pdf|pg||
nt|odysseus69: hello again Henry-|pg||
nt|gerben42: be sure to download only once, the site will block if a zillion people download it|pg||
nt|henryb: Hi Victor|pg||
nt|swanson: Hello all!|pg||
nt|henryb: In the other room S opened an offshape 14-16 1NT|pg||
nt|gerben42: hi John|pg||
nt|henryb: Hi John|pg||
nt|gerben42: here Nunes will open a natural but forcing 1@D|pg||
nt|odysseus69: without any system knowledge I am sure they will land in 4S|pg||
nt|swanson: The opening bid provided an easy route to 4@S.|pg||
nt|henryb: North tried an invitational 3S and S raised|pg||
nt|gerben42: might go 1@D 1@S 2@D 2@S 4@S or so|pg||
nt|gerben42: if the link for the CC does not work you might also try http://www.ecatsbridge.com/Events/wbf/2005estoril/default.asp|pg||
nt|odysseus69: only the overtrick is at stake-10 tricks favourite|pg||
nt|gerben42: I hear that USA2 played 2@D here|pg||
nt|gerben42: Fantunes won't since Nunes will have promised more for his 1@D|pg||
nt|odysseus69: no bidding prize for USA 2|pg||
nt|gerben42: 2 scores in from closed, should get going now :)|pg||
nt|gerben42: three even|pg||
nt|odysseus69: if playing weak 2s does north qualify?|pg||
nt|gerben42: depends who is my partner, but they dont play it anyway|pg||
nt|gerben42: without any agreements I'd say no|pg||
nt|odysseus69: academic question while we wait|pg||
nt|Walddk3: Good morning/afternoon and welcome back to Estoril in Portugal for the Bermuda Bowl, Venice Cup & Seniors Bowl. 21 matches of 20 boards in the round-robin, this is a round 13 match ...|pg||
nt|Walddk3: from the Bermuda Bowl|pg||
nt|Walddk3: Your commentators are Bill Jacobs and Nick Fahrer, Australia, Liz McGowan, Scotland, György Szalay, Hungary, and Roger Bryant, England. I am Roland Wald from Denmark|pg||
nt|Walddk3: Welcome all|pg||
nt|roghog: Hi folks|pg||
nt|szalay: hi all|pg||
nt|cuttysark: Morning!|pg||
nt|bjacobs: and it's good evening from me|pg||
nt|Walddk2: Welcome back everyone and sorry|pg||
nt|szalay: rehi|pg||
nt|nickf: Welcome back everyone|pg||
nt|Walddk2: We haven't missed anything though|pg||
nt|nickf: This match promises to be a real treat|pg||
nt|szalay: early @D switch sets 4@S|pg||
nt|nickf: two of the best pairs in the world|pg||
nt|szalay: by East, of course|pg||
nt|Walddk2: Closed room needs to have completed 2 boards first before we start here|pg||
nt|roghog: Yes. Sadek & El Ahmady are a world class pair. They have played throughout so far here|pg||
nt|bjacobs: Yes, a diamond has to be led by East, before the defence get off lead|pg||
nt|bjacobs: In the Closed Room, that was achieved at trick 1|pg||
nt|szalay: better soon than never:-)|pg||
nt|szalay: italians prefer lead from empty, short suit|pg||
nt|nickf: they are still bidding bd 2 in the closed|pg||
nt|Zmud99: Start we will start in a few...interviews of players here|pg||
nt|Walddk2: http://www.ecatsbridge.com/Events/wbf/2005estoril/default.asp  for system cards|pg||
nt|Walddk2: http://www.swangames.com/main/Bridgecast/Rama/Estoril_2005/estoril_2005.html  for running scores in all 3 series|pg||
nt|szalay: its strange and probably wont played, but 3N has some chance imho|pg||
nt|bjacobs: Both pairs play a form of standard|pg||
nt|Walddk2: All 3 series, Bermuda Bowl (open), Venice Cup (women) and Seniors Bowl have 22 nations. They play a complete round-robin after which the 8 best advance to the quarter-finals|pg||
nt|Walddk2: This is round 13 of 21, 1st against 2nd'|pg||
nt|Walddk2: 2nd against 1st rather :-)|pg||
nt|nickf: Egypt have done very well so far this week.|pg||
nt|bjacobs: So have Italy|pg||
nt|roghog: Italy are 2-1 at Betfair. Any takers?|pg||
nt|cuttysark: So we are past half way and some teams are running out of time....|pg||
nt|Zmud99: here we go|pg||
nt|szalay: i bet against them|pg||
nt|nickf: really ?|pg||
nt|cuttysark: For tje odds?|pg||
nt|nickf: who do you like gyorgy ?|pg||
nt|szalay: sure..i love big money|pg||
nt|cuttysark: Did you bet on anther team?|pg||
nt|Walddk2: Good morning/afternoon/evening and welcome back to Estoril in Portugal for the Bermuda Bowl, Venice Cup & Seniors Bowl. 21 matches of 16 boards in the round-robin, this is a round ...|pg||
nt|Walddk2: 14 match from the Venice Vup (women)|pg||
nt|Walddk2: Your commentators are David Bird, England, Tommy Sanders, Carol Simon, USA, and Povl Sommer, Denmark. I am Roland Wald, also from Denmark|pg||
nt|tsanders: welcome all and hi to alll co-commentators|pg||
nt|csimon: welcome everyone!|pg||
nt|sommer: hi and wlc all:)|pg||
nt|tsanders: WE have here both teams, strongly favored to qualify, with either team capable of winnning it all.|pg||
nt|csimon: we are about to watch 2 of the the pre-tournament favorites so this should be a terrific match|pg||
nt|csimon: sorry to sound like a parrot, Tommy :(|pg||
nt|tsanders: I call that "great minds" lol|pg||
nt|brolucius: Hi to the kibitzers!|pg||
nt|csimon: welcome David :)|pg||
nt|brolucius: Hi Carol. Are you feeling in good form?|pg||
nt|csimon: as good as can be for 6AM :)|pg||
nt|brolucius: That's good. I will leave all tricky analysis to you.|pg||
nt|csimon: I'll pass that on to Tommy and Povl :)|pg||
nt|brolucius: The Chinese women have 3 pairs in the top 7, on the cross-IMPing. A fine effort.|pg||
nt|sommer: ..starting with this one .. where 2@S is the limit for NS, but hard to stop there|pg||
nt|csimon: perhaps EW can outbid NS|pg||
nt|tsanders: 3nt is a good contract without a @c lead|pg||
nt|brolucius: At the other table North opened 1@H and made a Support Double when West entered the auction.|pg||
nt|csimon: looks like they make 3@c|pg||
nt|sommer: 3@C should be down|pg||
nt|csimon: sorry - yes 5 losers|pg||
nt|brolucius: Playing Precision Club, a sequence of 1@C - 2@S (3-6 points, six card suit) might allow you to stop in a part score.|pg||
nt|sommer: at least with a trumppromotion:)|pg||
nt|brolucius: Heather Dhondy and Nicola Smith are England's top pair, so far, in the cross-IMPing. |pg||
nt|tsanders: In Precision, as it used to be, N would bid 1@c and S, 2@s|pg||
nt|brolucius: Nicola is our top-ranked player, at 24th in the world. She was much higher, back in GB's glory days.|pg||
nt|csimon: don't listen to anything I say until my 2nd cup of coffee|pg||
nt|tsanders: I believe all Chinese pairs play Precision. there is a reason for that|pg||
nt|brolucius: I think the Open Room always waits to start, so there will be comparisons from the Closed Room.|pg||
nt|csimon: they play 2 bds in the closed room 1st|pg||
nt|brolucius: China is way ahead of the Women's Round Robin. People have been saying that their 'time would come'. It seems that it has come.|pg||
nt|tsanders: Kathy Wei ( Wei-Sender now) made many trips to China after the cultural revolution to promote bridge|pg||
nt|brolucius: England beat them in the 3rd-4th place play-off in the last Olympiad, to get the bronze medals.|pg||
nt|tsanders: naturally Wei taught them her system and they still play it, and play it very well|pg||
nt|brolucius: Simon Cocheme tells me that the England Open team made 3NT on the N-S cards (!). After a diamond lead.|pg||
nt|Walddk2: Good afternoon/evening and welcome back to Estoril in Portugal for the Bermuda Bowl, Venice Cup & Seniors Bowl. 21 matches of 20 boards in the round-robin, this is a round 15 match ...|pg||
nt|Walddk2: from the Bermuda Bowl|pg||
nt|Walddk2: Your commentators are Carol Simon and John Swanson, USA, Victor Silverstone, England, Frans Jeunen, Belgium, and Michael Barel, Israel. I am Roland Wald from Denmark|pg||
nt|Vugraph800: play will start in about 15 mns ...|pg||
nt|Walddk2: Hello to Carol, Victor and Frans|pg||
nt|frenske: hello everybody|pg||
nt|csimon: welcome everyone|pg||
nt|mich-b: Hi all|pg||
nt|Walddk2: And welcome Michael|pg||
nt|odysseus69: hello  from me|pg||
nt|csimon: hi me :)|pg||
nt|Walddk2: Welcome to John Swanson|pg||
nt|swanson: Good morning (where I am).|pg||
nt|csimon: I guess you don't do the 6AM sessions John :)|pg||
nt|odysseus69: interesting 3nt on first - easy seeing 4 hands but pitfalls- |pg||
nt|swanson: Even this one is pushing it a bit.|pg||
nt|Walddk2: http://www.ecatsbridge.com/Events/wbf/2005estoril/default.asp  for system cards|pg||
nt|Walddk2: sure, at 18:34 on the right side of the pond|pg||
nt|Walddk2: Carol thinks pond is cute|pg||
nt|csimon: big pond :)|pg||
nt|odysseus69: the hackets play strong nt and 4 card majors - they canape with 4 major and longer minor- open all balanced 11s|pg||
nt|csimon: N is endplayed on opening lead, so 3nt gets a little easier|pg||
nt|Walddk2: I thought 4-card majors were dead and buried|pg||
nt|Walddk2: Maybe not in Acol-land|pg||
nt|frenske: on this deal N will open 2@d weak with majors|pg||
nt|odysseus69: play of diamond suit is critical - small from hand to 9 and king - and all well|pg||
nt|frenske: sorry 2h! weak with majors|pg||
nt|csimon: if N opens 2@d, declarer has a roadmap|pg||
nt|frenske: 2@h|pg||
nt|Walddk2: They need to have played 2 boards in the closed room first before we start here|pg||
nt|csimon: ok, 2@h|pg||
nt|Walddk2: Could take about 10 minutes|pg||
nt|odysseus69: an opening showing majors will be a give-away|pg||
nt|odysseus69: however -even against silent correct technique wins day|pg||
nt|Walddk2: Bidding board 2 in the closed room now|pg||
nt|odysseus69: even after ace and diamond to K -will still be ok after ace and a club to J and queen|pg||
nt|Zmud99: interviews of players here in the rama|pg||
nt|Zmud99: we just learn from Chen that "Mitsubishi" means 3@D|pg||
nt|csimon: that explains the logo|pg||
nt|odysseus69: to sum up I make my first wrong prediction - 3NT making - |pg||
nt|csimon: is the CEO of Mitsubishi a bridge player?|pg||
nt|swanson: After 14 rounds, Japan is 'on the bubble' to qualify; England needs a couple of big wins to make it. (7 rounds remain)|pg||
nt|odysseus69: against silent - assuming heart lead and Ace and another diamond- declarer will play on spades |pg||
nt|Zmud99: here we go ...|pg||
nt|odysseus69: but if he gets spades wrong will still be OK|pg||
nt|odysseus69: in short - easy 3NT|pg||
nt|mich-b: Hi all , nice to see you again!|pg||
nt|csimon: good morning everyone !|pg||
nt|jtr: Germany are improving after a poorish start are they not?|pg||
nt|Walddk2: Sabine Auken - Daniela von Arnim, arguably the best woman pair in the world|pg||
nt|mich-b: Germany are currently 3rd|pg||
nt|Walddk2: Yes, their 3rd pair doing very well and now best of the 3 in the Butler ranking|pg||
nt|csimon: and Canada is almost on the bubble in 7th|pg||
nt|davpro: Hi all|pg||
nt|mich-b: and realistically , can already feel assured of a place in the 1/4 final|pg||
nt|jtr: Things can happen Look at USA-Netherlands|pg||
nt|mich-b: sure ... but nobody would bet against Germany qualifying|pg||
nt|csimon: yes, David - that is hard to look at and don't remind Fred of it!|pg||
nt|jtr: wasnt sure if it was 1 or 2|pg||
nt|csimon: was 2 :((|pg||
nt|mich-b: Meanwhile we can have a look at the auction in the closed room (board 1)|pg||
nt|Walddk2: Expensive board for the Canadians perhaps|pg||
nt|mich-b: EW already passed out 2@H|pg||
nt|Walddk2: Your commentators are Michael Rosenberg, USA, John Stewart, Canada, Melih Ozdil, Turkey, and R Krishnan, India. I am Roland Wald from Denmark|pg||
nt|Walddk2: Good morning/afternoon/evening and welcome back to Estoril in Portugal for the Bermuda Bowl, Venice Cup & Seniors Bowl. 21 matches of 20 boards in the round-robin, this is a round ...|pg||
nt|Walddk2: 19 match from the Bermuda Bowl|pg||
nt|Walddk2: Your commentators are Bill Jacobs, Tim Bourke, Australia, Steve Eginton, Jeffrey Allerton, England, and Gerben Dirksen, Netherlands. I am Roland Wald from Denmark|pg||
nt|gerben42: good morning everyone|pg||
nt|jallerton: Hello everybody|pg||
nt|eggy: Good morning|pg||
nt|Walddk2: http://www.ecatsbridge.com/Events/wbf/2005estoril/default.asp  for system cards|pg||
nt|eggy: Last day of qualifying should be exciting ...|pg||
nt|gerben42: yes very close|pg||
nt|eggy: with only Italy safe and at least 15 teams in with some chance|pg||
nt|bjacobs: N/S are playing some sort of Polish club|pg||
nt|Walddk2: Right, Argentina currently in 10th, Sweden in 14th place|pg||
nt|bjacobs: E/W are playing some sort of strong club|pg||
nt|eggy: You will notice that am being optimistic about the 15th of those.|pg||
nt|Walddk2: Both with a good chance of qualifying, but this match is obviously crucial for both teams|pg||
nt|Walddk2: http://www.swangames.com/main/Bridgecast/Rama/Estoril_2005/estoril_2005.html  for running scores in all 3 series|pg||
nt|gerben42: NS play Swedish @C, 1@C = 11-13 balanced or 16+|pg||
nt|Walddk2: 17+ |pg||
nt|timb: Interesting heart suit here. Best for three tricks is to lead @HJ. When West covers with the king, win the ace and lead low, intending to finesse the @H8 when East follows with the ...|pg||
nt|timb: seven.|pg||
nt|gerben42: their CC is one of the most elaborate in the event, so I think a compliment is in place there|pg||
nt|Walddk2: Play in this room will not start until 2 boards have been completed in the closed room|pg||
nt|Walddk2: They just finished board 1|pg||
nt|bjacobs: The Swedish CC is certainly the biggest I have downloaded!  555 Kb|pg||
nt|bjacobs: Does that make it the best?|pg||
nt|gerben42: anyone know who so far is the youngest player in the KO of the Bermuda Bowl ever? Madala, if he qualifies, may take that record|pg||
nt|Walddk2: No, but the most comprehensive, Bill :-)|pg||
nt|gerben42: well everything is on it|pg||
nt|jallerton: Swedes can also open 1@c on 11-16 3-suiters with short @d|pg||
nt|bjacobs: I see it's copyrighted|pg||
nt|gerben42: Madala is just 18 years old but has already played many international events|pg||
nt|Walddk2: Yes, so you will be fined for downloading it obviously|pg||
nt|gerben42: commentators downloading it will have to send half their pay to NS|pg||
nt|Zmud99: Madala and Lambardi changing seat|pg||
nt|Walddk2: 70% actually. Not sure Bill knew that|pg||
nt|eggy: means that you have to get a licence from the Swedes to play it|pg||
nt|bjacobs: Lindkvist actually : (C) 2003 Magnus Lindkvist|pg||
nt|eggy: I wonder of that means|pg||
nt|gerben42: this CC is brought to you by (some Swedish furniture giant) ?|pg||
nt|Walddk2: IKEA|pg||
nt|Walddk2: You have them in Britain too I believe, and certainly in Denmark and Norway|pg||
nt|bjacobs: Worldwide I would think|pg||
nt|eggy: Is it delivered in a flat pack, missing the screws?|pg||
nt|bjacobs: :)|pg||
nt|jallerton: Yes, the IKEA experience is famous in Britain|pg||
nt|Walddk2: Exactly. "Do it yourself, whether you can or not" is the philosophy|pg||
nt|Walddk2: Who is our expert on Spanish among the commentators?|pg||
mb|1S|nt|scotty: Very likely|pg||
nt|szalay: do u give me 3:1 for Egypt?|pg||
nt|nickf: 2-1 seems a fair price|pg||
nt|cuttysark: USA?|pg||
nt|roghog: Engalnd hve been sandbagging to improve their odds :-)|pg||
nt|nickf: I dont think either USA team will win|pg||
nt|cuttysark: Ho Ho Ho|pg||
nt|Walddk2: They could have dropped it in a partscore but pushed the Germans to game|pg||
nt|mich-b: but then got another chance and bid the game|pg||
mb|p|nt|mich-b: Here we go !|pg||
nt|hedyg: good morning Hervé:))|pg||
nt|gerben42: here goes!|pg||
nt|szalay: yes, I payed all my money for USA...but betfair doesnt accept Hungaria cards and thats sad|pg||
nt|cuttysark: Not fair at all|pg||
nt|nickf: you'll have to join the common market|pg||
nt|brolucius: And................. they're off!|pg||
nt|swanson: SHows 4+@H, 4+@S, 0-10 HCP|pg||
nt|csimon: who is in love with South's 3@d bid?|pg||
nt|Walddk2: seguro que tu coincidiste tambien aqui se llama lucci    take that|pg||
mb|2S|nt|Walddk2: Hope our operator will shut down and re-open|pg||
nt|eggy: That was quick, no PO in the other room then|pg||
nt|Walddk2: There is indeed Steve|pg||
nt|bjacobs: 1NT = Game Force|pg||
nt|brolucius: Hi to the kibitzers!|pg||
mb|p|nt|dinos1: however martens may rise to 6|pg||
nt|henryb: I'm not clear that N should bid again after 1D-1S - 2D|pg||
nt|cuttysark: European Union, Nick, you'rs living in the past|pg||
nt|szalay: we joined already:-)|pg||
nt|Walddk2: Looks like reverse Bergen|pg||
nt|csimon: the importance of getting in the auction with the W hand at all costs is the result of that @d lead vs 3nt|pg||
nt|brolucius: Yes|pg||
nt|swanson: Jason is a bit strong for a simple 3NT.|pg||
nt|Walddk2: http://www.ecatsbridge.com/Events/wbf/2005estoril/default.asp  for system cards|pg||
nt|jtr: Not South anymore:-)|pg||
nt|csimon: lol :))|pg||
nt|Walddk2: NS play Precision, EW naturalish 2/1|pg||
nt|mich-b: Honestly , I wouldn't blame South too much|pg||
nt|henryb: North is allowed to have an opening bid|pg||
nt|jtr: But East should have raised immediately|pg||
nt|jallerton: They are still playing board 2 in CR!|pg||
nt|bjacobs: (That bit's copyrighted)|pg||
nt|gerben42: will they reach 4@H or 3NT? |pg||
nt|glen2: good afternoon all|pg||
nt|Vugraph803: hello all|pg||
nt|mcphee: hi folks|pg||
nt|Vugraph803: sorry the delay|pg||
nt|eggy: Hello everyone|pg||
nt|Vugraph803: I will insert the name of the players asap|pg||
mb|p|nt|Walddk2: Limit with 4-card support|pg||
nt|Walddk4: Heather Dhondy in the West seat is one of our regular vugraph commentators. Fine player, skillful commentator|pg||
mb|3C|nt|scotty: I doubt it|pg||
nt|cuttysark: That is an ugly 1NT rebid|pg||
nt|Walddk2: I raise to 2@S, but that's me|pg||
nt|davpro: At the other table N passed|pg||
nt|timb: that North hand looks more like a pass than a 1@H opening|pg||
nt|cuttysark: Me too - the diamond stopper is too thin!|pg||
nt|gerben42: Nunes has promised 14 - 17 for 2@D|pg||
nt|odysseus69: whats wrong with 2s|pg||
nt|henryb: But I would bid 2S with South hand|pg||
nt|sommer: this was unexpected|pg||
nt|tsanders: with S known to have < 5 hcp, pass is reasonable for N|pg||
nt|brolucius: I thought North would contest with a take-out double|pg||
nt|mich-b: and it is very rare for opps who stopped in a partscore to change their mind and bid game|pg||
nt|ozdil: Hi all|pg||
nt|eggy: nice gentle hand to calm the nerves|pg||
mb|p|nt|dinos1: perfect hand|pg||
nt|hedyg: their CC says about 1@h opening 5+ and "can be light":)|pg||
nt|swanson: Seems to treading a mighty thin line to pass 2@D rather than bidding 2@S.|pg||
nt|gerben42: big difference to 11 - 15 in USA2 auction|pg||
nt|henryb: Yes, and N has a misfitting 9|pg||
nt|brolucius: Egypt are still flying high in a magnificent second place. They have surprised everyone with their marvellous performance.|pg||
nt|desert: hi all welcome everybody|pg||
mb|p|nt|mich-b: Don't think so - he has no idea if 5@C was bid to make or to save|pg||
nt|scotty: but partner may be saving!|pg||
nt|lesniak: no,Martens had no idea what 5 clubs was|pg||
nt|hedyg: unexpected X by E|pg||
nt|odysseus69: oops- my last prediction|pg||
nt|swanson: Tough to find another descriptive bid, though.|pg||
nt|csimon: certainly - as Gordon did here|pg||
nt|Walddk2: http://www.swangames.com/main/Bridgecast/Rama/Estoril_2005/estoril_2005.html  for running scores in all 3 series|pg||
nt|scotty: hi|pg||
nt|stewball: hi everyone|pg||
nt|ozdil: Hi all|pg||
nt|kista: Hi all Welcome|pg||
nt|mcphee: seems like this is a good save as 4@S was making|pg||
mb|p|nt|csimon: so did I|pg||
nt|sommer: yes|pg||
nt|sommer: they might stop in 2@S then|pg||
nt|brolucius: Not a great bidding board for the Chinese, to sell out to an 8-card fit at the two-level when they have a 9-card fit.|pg||
pc|s5|nt|Walddk2: Wrong team names|pg||
nt|davpro: I agree on the 1NT rebid - you will end up in the right game (but sometimes the wrong partscore)|pg||
nt|hedyg: 2@s raise by me too|pg||
nt|jbgood: well  he's got the umbid suit and is limited by his pass|pg||
nt|cuttysark: Inevitable contrac|pg||
nt|gerben42: 2@C = any 4441 or 4@D 5@C|pg||
nt|eggy: presumably 2D shows hearts|pg||
nt|gerben42: 2@D another relay|pg||
nt|Walddk2: I would say 3NT, but it's not copyrighted. You are allowed to say the same|pg||
nt|bjacobs: 2@C = 4@D (either 5@D or 4441)|pg||
nt|gerben42: 3@C = 1444|pg||
nt|bjacobs: (Reference 68)|pg||
nt|gerben42: so distribution now kow|pg||
nt|gerben42: known|pg||
nt|eggy: If they copyright 3Nt, does that stop the opponents using it?|pg||
nt|gerben42: no opps may use it if they pay some IMPs|pg||
nt|Walddk2: Our other 2 matches today will feature USA2 vs. Brazil (15.00 Paris, 9:00 am New York) and USA1 vs. Italy (18.30 Paris, 12:30 pm New York). Both matches from the Bermuda Bowl ... ...|pg||
nt|Walddk2: and if we are lucky, perhaps a bonus match |pg||
nt|gerben42: distribution is known, and since probably won't find out about @SQ singleton he might try 4@H also|pg||
nt|timb: i thought only old comedians used tired jokes - I was wrong...|pg||
nt|Zmud99: we are lucky i promess|pg||
nt|bjacobs: Given that 1@D is 11-16, I don't know why South is tanking|pg||
nt|gerben42: he is trying to give us comparisons for next boards|pg||
nt|jallerton: Deciding between 3NT & 41H|pg||
nt|jallerton: 4@h|pg||
nt|bjacobs: Two possible reasons I suppose|pg||
nt|gerben42: yes 3NT or 4@H |pg||
nt|eggy: Any bets on which board we will overtake the closed room?|pg||
nt|bjacobs: At this rate?|pg||
nt|jallerton: never at this rate|pg||
pc|s2|nt|Walddk2: Don't agree David|pg||
nt|hedyg: Weichsel has passed already so Sontag wont get excited|pg||
nt|henryb: Peter has both minors and competetive values|pg||
nt|odysseus69: but last chance to play there -and minors may be badly placed|pg||
pc|sA|nt|csimon: and they won't even go plus here|pg||
nt|henryb: I like Lee's action of bidding 1S better than pass.|pg||
nt|mich-b: I am not too happy about South's PASS of 1@D here|pg||
nt|csimon: and perhaps W should not have had such an easy entry into the auction the 1st round|pg||
nt|henryb: Especially opposite potentially short diamonds|pg||
nt|mich-b: NV , bidding a major at the 1 level is often a good idea|pg||
nt|jtr: Chances on @hK making a trick?|pg||
nt|csimon: not like Von Arnim to EVER pass !|pg||
nt|eggy: I think he will opt for 3NT|pg||
nt|mcphee: a quick 1 down and on to the next hand|pg||
nt|desert: this will be a very interesting match with a lot at stake......Egypt will try to hold its good place and India is 8th at the moment.....|pg||
nt|mcphee: our operator will insert player names when time permits|pg||
pc|sJ|pg||
pc|hT|nt|hedyg: i have a system that allows my partner to ask me with what i raised to 2@s|pg||
nt|timb: 480 is looking a superb result now|pg||
nt|szalay: tough choice by Versace|pg||
nt|nickf: wasnt a bad lead|pg||
nt|szalay: just switch minor aces|pg||
nt|Walddk2: It's makeable double dummy now, but there is no reason why he should|pg||
nt|cuttysark: Still not home|pg||
nt|bjacobs: realistically, the contract is still down on a club back|pg||
nt|nickf: just not a winning lead|pg||
nt|szalay: and why not @D switch now?|pg||
nt|cuttysark: Or a spade back|pg||
nt|bjacobs: To make, declarer will have to finesse the clubs, to eradicate West's trumps|pg||
nt|bjacobs: if that makes any sense!|pg||
nt|timb: it's probably a tank trying to remember something like "where did I park my car"|pg||
nt|bjacobs: 3@S not in the notes, so free for anyone to use|pg||
nt|jallerton: South has relayed, North has shown a 1444 shape|pg||
nt|eggy: Is that buck passing do you think?|pg||
nt|gerben42: probably buck passing|pg||
nt|Walddk2: Yes, "let partner make the final error" is a splendid rule|pg||
nt|gerben42: or might be asking min / max|pg||
pc|h2|nt|hedyg: yes better and better|pg||
nt|Walddk2: Most pairs have a relay after  1x  1MA  ;  2MA  to find out about 3 or 4-card support .... and shape/strength|pg||
nt|cuttysark: 11 imps to start. Nice!|pg||
nt|hedyg: yes Roland,i believe that is more and more popular|pg||
nt|hedyg: Q@s would work better here|pg||
nt|desert: this lead doesnt exaktly terrify declarer...|pg||
nt|gerben42: there goes the @C trick|pg||
nt|swanson: I predict that it is not your last prediction.|pg||
nt|swanson: The big drawback of these light distributional opening bids is that, if you don't buy the contract, the declarer is playing almost double dummy.|pg||
nt|csimon: very slim imho|pg||
nt|jallerton: 3NT = singleton honour?|pg||
pc|hQ|nt|davpro: But if you support with xxx will that not make P not bidding his suits? (with Axxx or something similiar)|pg||
nt|cuttysark: Clear as mud|pg||
nt|ozdil: I think we can start with 7 SP...|pg||
pc|h5|pg||
nt|hedyg: best lead for sure!|pg||
nt|Walddk2: eradicate, hmmmm  how many times a day do you use that word?|pg||
nt|mich-b: Maybe it was better to cash the @DK first|pg||
nt|csimon: now zero|pg||
nt|brolucius: The top 16 teams in the Open event have realistic dreams of qualifying for the knock-out stage. This may be the most exciting day of the tournament.|pg||
pc|h7|nt|timb: technically the relay should be the step but always using 2NT has its advantages too|pg||
nt|desert: exactly|pg||
nt|odysseus69: my lips are buttoned|pg||
nt|henryb: In other room after same lead, HA, DK, HK, club|pg||
nt|gerben42: I predict a flat board|pg||
nt|szalay: what did I say?|pg||
pc|h6|nt|timb: the pause marks South with @DK for West|pg||
nt|Walddk2: 1@H  1@S  ;  2@S   2NT = relay, at least invitational, tell me more partner|pg||
nt|hedyg: strange no @h switch|pg||
nt|timb: that may come later|pg||
nt|roghog: kept wanting to bid 2NT nat when I played it|pg||
nt|hedyg: will get 1 less ruff|pg||
nt|Walddk2: On board 1 yesterday morning we had a 17 IMP swing. I am sure you recall if you were here|pg||
nt|hedyg: "played" Roger?|pg||
nt|davpro: but one more @c|pg||
nt|Walddk2: 7@H = in one room, 7@H -1 in the other|pg||
nt|cuttysark: Gives South a nasty guess early - good idea in a long match|pg||
nt|hedyg: yes probably equivalent|pg||
nt|roghog: gave it up, Hedy :-)|pg||
nt|hedyg: lolll|pg||
nt|hedyg: ok|pg||
nt|cuttysark: SO first blood to Egypt|pg||
nt|frenske: the best spot was 3@h dbl but will be t/o|pg||
nt|mich-b: to prevent losing to the singleton 10 or 9|pg||
nt|jtr: 2 chances|pg||
nt|henryb: Certainly not after SK turns up in South|pg||
nt|jtr: slim and none:-)|pg||
nt|gerben42: I found out what it was: 3@S = range ask blackwood|pg||
nt|gerben42: 3NT = minimum|pg||
nt|Walddk2: Interesting gadget|pg||
pc|h9|nt|jack2001: Welcome to the fin al 16 boards of the computer bridge 2005 final|pg||
pc|hA|pg||
pc|d2|nt|hedyg: oh oh!|pg||
nt|jbgood: if he ever was terrified:)|pg||
nt|gerben42: we need Joey for this one|pg||
nt|gerben42: Joey = Joey Silver, he always says "Next!"|pg||
nt|jallerton: quite common in relay auctions, Roland|pg||
nt|bjacobs: I searched for "Blackwood" in the notes ... 0 matches|pg||
nt|Walddk2: :-)|pg||
pc|dA|pc|d9|pc|d7|pg||
nt|brolucius: South was 'out of range' for any action on her hand, so the responsibility lay with North to contest.|pg||
nt|eggy: Same for the F system, I'm sure|pg||
pc|h4|nt|hedyg: now?|pg||
nt|swanson: Declarer is probably decided whether to cash the trump ace before his discard.|pg||
nt|tsanders: nice defense to no avail|pg||
pc|hJ|nt|Walddk3: Welcome to Steve Eginton from England|pg||
nt|eggy: Hi everryone|pg||
nt|Walddk3: and György Szalay from Hungary|pg||
nt|Walddk3: and Yuval Yener from Israel|pg||
nt|szalay: hi all|pg||
nt|yuval10: hello all :)|pg||
nt|scotty: DEclarer will win, draw trumps, lead @d to A, get back to hand and lead @dJ. the fall of the 7 allows him to take 12 tricks finessing the 6 later|pg||
nt|csimon: if DeFalco promises to make the same lead, Sontag can go back and bid a game|pg||
nt|odysseus69: I have been using these 2 suited openers for 3 years- all I get is bad results except when I hit a giant mis-fit|pg||
nt|mich-b: This time declarer really has too many resources , so it doesn't matter that much|pg||
nt|stewball: hi everyone,i was off visiting kingdom come|pg||
nt|ozdil: 5 H shows Q spade and K heart..|pg||
nt|Walddk1: Good afternoon/evening and welcome back to Estoril in Portugal for the Bermuda Bowl, Venice Cup & Seniors Bowl. This is the last match in the round-robin|pg||
nt|mcphee: specs advise me Indai is currently in 4th|pg||
nt|Walddk1: Your commentators are R Krishnan, India, Martin Wüst, Germany, Glen Ashton, Bob McPhee, Canada, and Steve Eginton, England. I am Roland Wald from Denmark|pg||
nt|kista: No in 6th place tied with China|pg||
pc|hK|pc|h8|pg||
nt|mich-b: After a natural 1@D opening from East and 4@H overcall , what would West do ?|pg||
nt|scotty: Declarer can test trumps, and when 3-2 can ruff heart for 13th trick|pg||
nt|Walddk2: Good evening to Alexander Petrunin from Russia|pg||
nt|aap00: hi all|pg||
nt|ozdil: hi..|pg||
nt|scotty: If S had @sJxxx, declarer would instead try for diamonds 4-2, or a squeeze|pg||
nt|scotty: N may lead a trump|pg||
pc|h3|nt|szalay: hopw David Burn doesn't read it..he hates 'first blood' a lot|pg||
nt|szalay: hope|pg||
pc|c2|nt|Walddk2: hmmm|pg||
nt|jtr: Well N/S play strong @c so von Arnim could pass with a 6 count|pg||
pc|c4|nt|Walddk2: Roger is from England, Hedy. They may have a Labour government, but they are very conservative when it comes to bidding|pg||
nt|frenske: i have stopped playing this!!|pg||
pc|c8|pg||
nt|hedyg: lead 3/5 against nt it seems|pg||
nt|aap00: 2 @s, @h ruff, claim|pg||
nt|scotty: Techincally best to lead low trump to the A, since there isc some chance to make if S has all 5|pg||
nt|aap00: y |pg||
nt|scotty: but maybe wrong on the hand though right on the suit|pg||
pc|c9|pc|c3|nt|hedyg: lol|pg||
nt|henryb: I predict an imp to Sweden|pg||
nt|odysseus69: not 5 now|pg||
nt|gerben42: I predict that I will make wrong predictions more often|pg||
nt|davpro: Yes, but at the same time what could happen if you bid say...@h?|pg||
nt|henryb: My parents have lived here for 66 years|pg||
pc|cJ|pc|c7|pg||
nt|sommer: no, 2@D should make, and we must say China is lucky to lose only 1 imp|pg||
nt|jack2001: WBridge5 plays an extremely strong final sofar and 4 times champ Jack is in problems|pg||
pc|cA|nt|hedyg: lol|pg||
pc|cT|pc|cQ|nt|mich-b: Responding on hands like South's is not primarily to get to game|pg||
pc|cK|pg||
pc|d3|pc|d4|nt|odysseus69: I am working on stoppi ng|pg||
nt|Walddk2: Beverly Kraft and husband Eric Kokish are big admirers of the Auken/Von Arnim system and approach, Glen Ashton from Canada tells me|pg||
nt|davpro: It is primarily to keep opps out of a game...:-)|pg||
nt|aap00: @sA, @s will fail if !4-1 & @d 4-2|pg||
pc|dQ|nt|scotty: 7NT could make on a double squeeze, if no @h is led|pg||
pc|dJ|pg||
nt|jtr: But responding twice gets them into it:-)|pg||
nt|mich-b: more to make it more difficult for the opps to get in, to contest the partscore, or suggest a lead|pg||
pc|s4|pc|sT|nt|jallerton: Playing safe for his contract|pg||
nt|Walddk2: http://www.swangames.com/main/Bridgecast/Rama/Estoril_2005/estoril_2005.html  for running scores in all 3 series|pg||
pc|c5|pc|s8|pg||
pc|d5|nt|Walddk2: http://www.ecatsbridge.com/Events/wbf/2005estoril/default.asp  for system cards|pg||
pc|d8|pc|dK|pc|s3|pg||
pc|sK|pc|s7|pc|d6|pc|s9|pg||
pc|sQ|pc|s6|pc|c6|pc|dT|pg||
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qx|o2|st||md|4SJ94HK43DAKQ2CQJ2,SAHQT9862DT65CK85,ST865HAJ7D87CA943,SKQ732H5DJ943CT76|sv|n|mb|p|nt|Walddk2: 3NT would be normal here, and few problems on this layout|pg||
mb|1N|mb|2H|nt|mrdct: will make in practice i think|pg||
nt|mrdct: with the nice @s pips|pg||
nt|Walddk2: Maybe I didn't make myself clear. Will make easily|pg||
nt|al9al9: The ninth annual world computer bridge championship is dedicated to the memory of Alan Truscott...|pg||
nt|mrdct: @cK onside, etc.|pg||
mb|2N!|mb|p|nt|sartre: Bridge Baron sez: 2H is natural.  2NT is Lebensohl.|pg||
mb|3C!|mb|p|mb|3H!|mb|p|mb|3N|nt|Walddk2: 3@H probably heart stopper + 4 spades|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|mrdct: north going via leb to show 4@s and @h stop|pg||
nt|sartre: Bridge Baron sez: 3H shows a heart stopper and four spades.|pg||
nt|mrdct: 3@hx may have been inbteresting|pg||
pc|hT|pc|h7|pc|h5|pc|hK|pg||
pc|s4|pc|sA|pc|s5|pc|s2|pg||
pc|d5|pc|d7|pc|dJ|pc|dK|pg||
pc|s9|pc|hQ|pc|s6|pc|sQ|pg||
nt|Walddk2: Bridge Baron sez is Stephen Smith from Bridge Baron|pg||
pc|sK|pc|sJ|pc|h6|pc|s8|pg||
pc|d3|pc|dA|pc|d6|pc|d8|pg||
pc|cJ|pc|c5|pc|c3|nt|Walddk2: The "real" championships in Estoril will resume in 1 hour and 45 minutes|pg||
pc|c6|pg||
pc|dQ|nt|Walddk2: USA1 v USA2 (women) in the first segment|pg||
pc|dT|pc|c4|pc|d4|pg||
pc|c2|pc|c8|pc|cA|nt|mrdct: did they pick eachother or were they forced together?|pg||
pc|c7|pg||
pc|sT|pc|s3|pc|d2|pc|h2|pg||
nt|al9al9: A team of computers want to challenge some of the teams that didnt qualify|pg||
pc|hJ|pc|cT|pc|h3|pc|h8|pg||
nt|Walddk2: Forced because they finished 4th and 5th|pg||
mc|9|pg||
qx|c2|st||md|4SJ94HK43DAKQ2CQJ2,SAHQT9862DT65CK85,ST865HAJ7D87CA943,SKQ732H5DJ943CT76|sv|n|nt|scotty: 4N for takeout|pg||
nt|mich-b: How many people play 4NT there as takeout for the minors?|pg||
nt|dinos1: 4n maybe |pg||
nt|lesniak: everybody??|pg||
nt|davpro: I do- but question is if he had both minors|pg||
nt|davpro: or just 1|pg||
nt|scotty: 4N should be takeout over opponents 4M bid, unless we have a fit, or are in a force|pg||
nt|hedyg: i am very impressed that he actually "played" it!!|pg||
nt|roghog: Acol rules OK. Actually, I do play the weird 2@c that these Chinese guys do. Hope it crops up :-)|pg||
nt|jbgood: first 2 drops of blood|pg||
nt|hedyg: as spec pointed out, they lead attitude|pg||
nt|hedyg: would Q@s be a negative lead?|pg||
nt|gerben42: slam time|pg||
nt|swanson: Why not take the safest line possible when some opponents may be playing in 2@D?|pg||
nt|gerben42: Lauria & Versace gave NS a hard time 2@H 4@H|pg||
nt|henryb: That looks more like a weak 2 bid|pg||
nt|cuttysark: He won't be up yet|pg||
nt|nickf: I think there's a scoring error|pg||
nt|Walddk2: http://www.swangames.com/main/Bridgecast/Rama/Estoril_2005/estoril_2005.html  for running scores in all 3 series|pg||
nt|cuttysark: Yes - they wrote Passed Out at this table|pg||
nt|brolucius: Well, England were too high at the other table, so a near-flat board is reasonable.|pg||
nt|csimon: I'm on my 2nd cup of coffee, so I'm making some sense now :)|pg||
nt|sommer: yes|pg||
nt|sommer: 3NT is better from N's seat here|pg||
nt|frenske: :)|pg||
nt|mich-b: Is there a "standard" opening for East?|pg||
nt|csimon: try artificial 2-bids anonymous|pg||
nt|mich-b: My preference would be 1@D intending to rbid 2@C|pg||
nt|ozdil: For me this play is ok. If he play direct to ace spade can be entry problem if South has JXXX trumps|pg||
nt|aap00: y|pg||
nt|jallerton: East opened 1@h in closed room. Yuk!|pg||
mb|p|nt|mich-b: ask our spectators , how many of them do :)|pg||
nt|davpro: sorry- after a @d 4NT is clearcut...|pg||
nt|hedyg: defense was less than perfect but 10 imps|pg||
nt|hedyg: :)|pg||
nt|hedyg: weak NT|pg||
nt|cuttysark: We know better.... |pg||
nt|odysseus69: i think 1C is the Hacket style|pg||
nt|frenske: for me 1@d to|pg||
nt|csimon: or to just plain make a nuisance of yourself|pg||
mb|1N|nt|scotty: Partner opened 1@d we are discussing, so W has both minors|pg||
nt|cuttysark: Also ugly. I open 11 counts, but this??|pg||
nt|davpro: You do not need perfect defense when you find perfect leads...:-)|pg||
nt|csimon: guess so Hedy - it's VERY high :)|pg||
nt|brolucius: No excuses from now on, then, Carol!|pg||
nt|aap00: more slams :)|pg||
mb|p|nt|yuval10: welcome to the match, should be an interesting one|pg||
nt|hedyg: agree Liz!|pg||
nt|hedyg: no redeeming features|pg||
nt|cuttysark: Do you play 2NT as a sound raise here when there is no cuebid?|pg||
nt|henryb: Likely pass out unless West opens|pg||
nt|hedyg: :)))|pg||
nt|gerben42: no more predictions :)|pg||
nt|henryb: Or 3|pg||
nt|henryb: Might know him -- My father was a Professor of Physics|pg||
nt|gerben42: I guess a limited 1@H|pg||
nt|Walddk2: Seems normal to me since it shows 11-16|pg||
mb|2C|nt|lesniak: masrtens would bid 2 clubs|pg||
nt|mich-b: Don't they play Drury?|pg||
nt|gerben42: but I think flat board might be a nice prediction|pg||
nt|swanson: East is sure to raise the ante here.|pg||
nt|gerben42: EW are agressive pair anyway|pg||
nt|gerben42: 4 or 5?|pg||
nt|swanson: Can't bid less than 5.|pg||
nt|gerben42: Mrs. Bertheau is playing in the Venice cup and made 1460 as South|pg||
nt|odysseus69: how about a kid-on 5 minor|pg||
nt|gerben42: 3@S?|pg||
nt|odysseus69: prefer 5C 10|pg||
nt|henryb: Even 6H goes for 1400|pg||
nt|henryb: 5H I mean|pg||
nt|swanson: N-S will make whatever they bid.  E-W won't.|pg||
nt|odysseus69: if East is going to try a funny he should it in tempo|pg||
nt|gerben42: might be Nunes thinking|pg||
nt|gerben42: the operator gives us 2 bids at the time, as a click might be heard and give information|pg||
nt|swanson: I prefer a simple 5@H.  A phoney minor suit bid would, in theory, indicate a lead.  Won't be scaring North.|pg||
nt|henryb: No, unless a strange screen. N&E usually screenmates|pg||
nt|odysseus69: looks like routine 4S bid - or tougher 5 spade bid over 5 any|pg||
nt|swanson: What should SOuth bid over 5@H?  A pass should be forcing (in my opinion).|pg||
nt|odysseus69: i like 5H -but not 3S|pg||
nt|gerben42: 3@S was just kidding|pg||
nt|csimon: but impossible to reach by N I would think|pg||
nt|Walddk2: http://www.ecatsbridge.com/Events/wbf/2005estoril/default.asp  for system cards|pg||
mb|p|nt|Walddk3: http://www.ecatsbridge.com/Events/wbf/2005estoril/default.asp  for system cards|pg||
nt|lesniak: even when thay play as drury -fit|pg||
nt|scotty: In the other room Meck made a light opening with E of 1@D - for the lead?|pg||
nt|hedyg: i play it as cards|pg||
nt|cuttysark: Ah - 13 of them?|pg||
nt|csimon: this can easily be beaten|pg||
nt|desert: If pd has 9x the lead of the small card is necessary to avoid the blockage of the suit.....but i try to avoid such a spectacular lead as often as possible...|pg||
nt|gerben42: wouldn't guess that|pg||
nt|brolucius: South may prefer 1NT|pg||
nt|mich-b: NS should be able to beat this 3NT easily|pg||
nt|eggy: well if you don't have 1NT available ...|pg||
nt|eggy: India are 6th and need 11 to be sure, Egypt 2nd, but still need 7|pg||
mb|2D|nt|dinos1: I like this stile - 2@c is either fit or nat|pg||
nt|hedyg: like asking pd for his strength|pg||
nt|odysseus69: that says you guys have a slam|pg||
nt|roghog: 5-card majors and phoney @C|pg||
nt|sommer: ..2@D - 2NT?:))|pg||
nt|brolucius: No, 2@D. I was thinking that this rebid has a high upper range, so it might be better to limit the hand.|pg||
nt|mich-b: Spectators point out that 1@H may have been a good option for the Hacketts|pg||
nt|odysseus69: some play 2D as 4-4-4-1 or multi|pg||
nt|swanson: I would like an opponent to start with 1@S to help me out.  Any spade bid by an opponent helps the 1-4-4-4 hand.|pg||
nt|mich-b: Yes, but I think the 4441 option should be stronger than this hand - say 19+|pg||
nt|odysseus69: the HS bid NT on next round- not everyones cup of tea- or anyone's?|pg||
nt|mich-b: if you open 2@D with 17 4441 , by the time partner knows where your shortage is , we are often too high|pg||
nt|mich-b: Anyone knows the range of this 2@S for the Hacketts?|pg||
nt|Walddk3: Good diamond slam that will fail due to the 4-1 trump break|pg||
nt|aap00: this 1 good but unlucky|pg||
nt|bjacobs: 1@C = 11-13, or 11-16 or 17+|pg||
nt|jack2001: 2C is Stayman and North will invite for game|pg||
mb|p|nt|szalay: funny that branco-brothers re-unified 1 more|pg||
nt|Walddk3: It's our plan to enter scores from the open room as soon as we can in order to get comparisons|pg||
nt|yuval10: 2@d probably good raise for @h|pg||
nt|hedyg: cards as in HCPs|pg||
nt|Walddk2: 1NT is 12-14 according to their CC. I can't understand how you can upgrade that 11 count to 12|pg||
nt|Walddk2: I would downgrade it to 9½|pg||
nt|cuttysark: Just like upgrading a 14 count playing 15-17, Roland!|pg||
nt|cuttysark: But I agree, this East hand shoud be degraded, not upgraded|pg||
nt|roghog: Add a pt for AQ stiff. They always lead it :-)|pg||
nt|csimon: cash all minor winners and a trump trick by force, since dummy has but 1 entry|pg||
nt|Zmud99: ok i will update|pg||
nt|csimon: whatever it is, I'm sure W has a max|pg||
nt|csimon: the world knew you Dad, Henry!|pg||
nt|gerben42: is it worth 11 then?|pg||
nt|jallerton: You always go by the point count then?|pg||
nt|Walddk2: QJ doubleton a minus, @H10 a plus, so I think yes|pg||
mb|3N|nt|lesniak: but this haND IS PERFECT FOR THIS BIDDIND|pg||
nt|gerben42: wow|pg||
nt|bjacobs: East's rebid here presents a difficult choice: stopper or support?|pg||
nt|szalay: routine game|pg||
nt|tsanders: north really has a pass, but might streach and bid 2NT|pg||
nt|csimon: they did it!|pg||
nt|sommer: here "we" are|pg||
nt|swanson: That is a VERY good non-vul vs vul weak jump shift.  Too good for my tastes.|pg||
mb|p|nt|odysseus69: michael you are right - 17 is bad if Pd is weak- but it works well otherwise|pg||
nt|Walddk2: I am sure our commentators have the CCs at hand, so they can tell about the EW NT range|pg||
nt|stewball: argh|pg||
nt|Walddk2: Opening the auction is usually an advantage|pg||
mb|p|nt|mich-b: EW are in danger of playing 4@H now|pg||
nt|lesniak: bidding|pg||
nt|mich-b: usually the "weak" 2@S response is played as 0-5 or so|pg||
nt|frenske: this is indeed a strong weak jump for the hacketts|pg||
nt|gerben42: dbl = transfer to @S|pg||
nt|mcphee: slam possible in @D but difficult to find|pg||
nt|Vugraph803: sorry Ven's name is too long, opted for abbrev|pg||
nt|Vugraph803: no ofense intended|pg||
mb|p|nt|henryb: I agree, John. Bertheau decided not to show the H fit|pg||
nt|nickf: what's the modern consensus on opening with 5-5 in the blacks?|pg||
nt|nickf: I amways open 1@S|pg||
nt|nickf: always*|pg||
nt|bjacobs: My consensus is spades|pg||
nt|szalay: slam doesnt have 2 losers but not yet 12 winners|pg||
nt|Walddk2: Depends where in the world you are|pg||
nt|csimon: I know EOK's NT range :))|pg||
nt|davpro: not at hand...more a case of behind 16 other windows...|pg||
nt|Walddk2: I know it's 11+ - 14, but who looked it up?|pg||
nt|Walddk2: So Gordon has shown 15-17 now|pg||
nt|mich-b: East has 2 options now :|pg||
nt|ozdil: No possible to stay under slam after E opening|pg||
nt|jallerton: Pass or mini NT for me|pg||
nt|Walddk1: After this round there will be a captains' meeting in Estoril where the teams ranked 1st, 2nd and 3rd will choose their quarter-final opponents from among the teams ranked 5th ...|pg||
nt|Walddk1: through 8th|pg||
pc|h9|nt|cuttysark: Yeah, 2 tricks are handy when that is all you have|pg||
nt|Walddk2: Anyway, it worked. Kept NS out of game|pg||
nt|gerben42: wow!|pg||
nt|swanson: WOW!|pg||
nt|gerben42: pinch me|pg||
pc|h7|nt|szalay: i prefer 1N with 5M+6m yet, I confess|pg||
nt|Zmud99: ok now|pg||
nt|cuttysark: I open 1@C except when spades are much stronger|pg||
nt|szalay: 1M, sry|pg||
nt|Walddk2: I open 1@C with a hand that's not strong enough to reverse into 3@C after 1@S  2red|pg||
nt|brolucius: 2NT is unlikely to be the best spot. If South does not want to go to game, she will probably bid 3@D.|pg||
nt|sommer: I put my money on a make|pg||
nt|csimon: wd|pg||
nt|brolucius: Well, I will give up predicting for 30 minutes. Obviously not my scene.|pg||
nt|sommer: pls David:)) |pg||
pc|h5|nt|yuval10: for running scores :  |pg||
nt|yuval10: http://www.swangames.com/main/Bridgecast/Rama/Estoril_2005/estoril_2005.html|pg||
nt|eggy: that's a gutsy bid|pg||
nt|gerben42: thank you partner|pg||
nt|tsanders: 2@d by S was not forcing, but N valued her bits and pieces and bid on|pg||
nt|mich-b: try to cash 8 minor tricks hoping both suits break|pg||
nt|jtr: three- play a @s|pg||
nt|davpro: 4 options...every suit makes some sense...|pg||
nt|mich-b: or play another @H hoping the opps will not switch to @Ss|pg||
nt|mcphee: not sure I would have bid over 4NT|pg||
nt|desert: Egypt will try to get one of the first 4 places (second if possible). Then Egypt can pick second whereas choosing the opponent for the quarterfinal...|pg||
nt|eggy: me neither,it was clearly quantitative|pg||
nt|kista: 7@d makes double dummy but they will rest in 6NT|pg||
nt|Vugraph803: Dagher in big thinking|pg||
nt|kista: A @c lead beats 6NT|pg||
nt|eggy: I expect he is considering passing this|pg||
nt|mcphee: not a very good slam in spite of the values W has|pg||
nt|Vugraph803: still|pg||
nt|kista: Some pairs play 5Nt over 3Nt as "super quanti" to guesswork in these situations|pg||
nt|kista: To save guesswork|pg||
nt|desert: 6 NT should be played by WEst.....unfortunately East was the first to bid NT.....|pg||
pc|hK|pg||
nt|scotty: Very strange auction - perhaps partially explaining why POland is 19th|pg||
nt|mich-b: What caused them missing the @H fit?|pg||
nt|frenske: this not the best spot|pg||
nt|lesniak: cannot under Martens didnot bid 3 hearts|pg||
nt|mich-b: wasn't 2@H natural ?|pg||
nt|davpro: a @c lead would have defeated though (as always? :-) )|pg||
nt|hedyg: thats probably the reason for the 1nt opening, the "preempt" effect|pg||
nt|timb: another great result for Portugal|pg||
nt|henryb: missed the 6H bid|pg||
nt|swanson: The pass to 6@H is obviously forcing also.|pg||
nt|gerben42: @CAK then thank you Nystrom|pg||
nt|Walddk2: If it is, I open 1@S|pg||
nt|roghog: We don't like to lose the @c over here|pg||
nt|scotty: 6N is best - some small extra chances - and a 2imp gain if it makes!|pg||
nt|timb: Send the 1@H opening to Al Roth for a wholly appropriate diatribe|pg||
pc|s4|nt|odysseus69: 6 hearts with negative defence is bad psychology|pg||
nt|szalay: otherwise we wd play 6card M sys|pg||
nt|sommer: MA-lead is the only needed for possible 9 tricks|pg||
nt|odysseus69: but pd opened his void |pg||
nt|Walddk2: 3NT is easy enough with spades 5-3, but Sweden will most likely lose 1 IMP|pg||
nt|Walddk2: spades 3-2 rather|pg||
pc|sA|nt|cuttysark: I suppose this is not a great game, but on this club lie China are going to lose another game swing|pg||
nt|brolucius: 2@D has a top of around 22 points, because 3@D is game-forcing.|pg||
nt|sommer: right, 2@D is around 16-20|pg||
nt|jack2001: 3N is a bit of an overbid but 3N will make easily will the clubs breaking and the HQ onside|pg||
pc|s5|nt|szalay: 3 over 3 always dangerous|pg||
nt|lesniak: sure and not minimum|pg||
nt|dinos1: i see hearts so nat :))|pg||
nt|mich-b: would 4@H make?|pg||
nt|scotty: Regardless of whether 2@h was natural, this auction highlights the difficulty of playing 2@c might or might not have a fit - W does not know if 2@s is a preference or real support|pg||
nt|dinos1: yet 4@s is on :)|pg||
nt|frenske: in closed S come in with 1@h |pg||
nt|davpro: Could it be that E didn't want to take it to the 3-level- but at the same time didn't want to pass? Very strange though.|pg||
nt|lesniak: heart returne could hurt declarer...|pg||
nt|scotty: I would think at this level that any pair should reach 4@h|pg||
nt|mich-b: except if South overcalls 1@H , that is ...|pg||
nt|bjacobs: You play club contracts in Europe?|pg||
nt|roghog: de rigueur :-)|pg||
nt|scotty: If N had @sJ too, 6N would be getting really close|pg||
nt|aap00: y, if @d 4-1 6n can be made if @Hx or QJ(x)|pg||
nt|aap00: @s  Hx|pg||
nt|mcphee: south needs to lead a @C|pg||
pc|s2|pg||
nt|Walddk2: No, we bid them, never play there|pg||
nt|Walddk2: Except at slam-level|pg||
nt|eggy: leads are ud distribution|pg||
nt|kista: Tewari is likely to respond 2@c to1@h in the other room|pg||
nt|mcphee: quite likely this slam will not be reached at the other table|pg||
nt|Vugraph803: here we go|pg||
pc|h2|nt|scotty: Declarer will only lose 2spades and a @d - any heart losers will go on clubs|pg||
nt|lesniak: but 4 spades is cold anyway|pg||
nt|brolucius: South wsa declarer at the other table (after North stretched to respond to 1@D), so declarer did not get a helpful lead.|pg||
nt|mich-b: Option 2 , should not really work against good defense|pg||
nt|scotty: Often 61d would be better because of possible trump coup when S has @dJxxx, but here I don't think you have the entries|pg||
nt|kista: good lead by Venkat|pg||
pc|hJ|nt|roghog: Chinese ladies got 11 on this board, I'm told. Men not so good...|pg||
nt|Walddk1: Venkat is a great abbreviation Hervé. Just like the great Indian cricketer of the past (now umpire)|pg||
pc|s3|nt|dinos1: he'll overcal if open on E's hand|pg||
nt|davpro: i 2@h showed extras...2@s might have been forcing- E wanted to hold 3NT as an option?|pg||
nt|davpro: if|pg||
nt|dinos1: makes coz long @s with long @c's|pg||
nt|scotty: In the other room against 3N, declarer had a bad moment on seeing the @d lead, but had no problems thereafter - in fact he could have made another trick |pg||
nt|frenske: Jassem will be happy now that he not play 4@h|pg||
nt|scotty: Now he needs the spade finesse - he is down if S has the @sK|pg||
nt|szalay: i  never played 1@C in last 6 years|pg||
nt|cuttysark: We should do a contract count - bet clubs come off worst|pg||
nt|szalay: does anybody know the reason?:-)|pg||
nt|bjacobs: You know the great Edgar Kaplan comment?|pg||
nt|szalay: yes|pg||
nt|Walddk2: Sure, you play strong club|pg||
nt|szalay: the loss of suits|pg||
nt|bjacobs: Yes ... "We lost the club suit in the 50s, now diamonds are gone at hearts are sinking fast"|pg||
nt|szalay: first @Cs, after @Ds, and so on|pg||
nt|cuttysark: This is quite unpleasant on a trump lead|pg||
nt|roghog: and soon @s will be just a fert... |pg||
nt|roghog: Can get one ruff, and hope the @d behave|pg||
nt|bjacobs: Any inspired comments for trick 2?|pg||
nt|bjacobs: thanks, specs, I'm keeping count ... keep those suggestions rolling in|pg||
nt|bjacobs: club is spec consensus|pg||
nt|mich-b: knowing the Hacketts , I suspect the might respond 1@S on a 0 count as well ...|pg||
nt|aap00: speeding play|pg||
nt|stewball: 4@h some kind of kickback?|pg||
nt|kista: I am told they are playing 3Nt in the open|pg||
pc|h4|pg||
nt|yuval10: yes, but on this layout he can actually make 10 tricks|pg||
nt|eggy: still, he's missed game|pg||
nt|vugraph141: marcelo pondering..|pg||
nt|swanson: It's going to be 'Thank you West for dropping the @CQ'.|pg||
nt|roghog: ...or play a @c. Two tricky boards for Versace already. Hope he slept well :-) |pg||
nt|davpro: but then again against good defense suits should nor be 3-3....|pg||
nt|davpro: not|pg||
nt|scotty: Yes|pg||
pc|sT|nt|henryb: Is it better to be lucky than good?|pg||
nt|kista: His full name is K R VENKATARAMAN|pg||
pc|sQ|pc|s9|nt|mich-b: perhaps with a 5 card suit ... :)|pg||
nt|swanson: losing 2 trumps and the ace, 10 tricks.|pg||
nt|mcphee: easy for you to say|pg||
nt|kista: Some call him Catamaran|pg||
pc|h6|pg||
nt|gerben42: these guys are both I'm afraid|pg||
nt|odysseus69: and thank you East for pushing us around|pg||
nt|jallerton: Apparently, India collected 1700 from 3@cx on this board|pg||
nt|Walddk2: Indeed, against Poland|pg||
nt|gerben42: ouch|pg||
nt|Walddk2: The major disappointment in the BB|pg||
nt|gerben42: India still at the border of qualifying is a positive surprise though |pg||
nt|bjacobs: South of course is stewing over the possibility of spades 4-1|pg||
nt|Walddk2: Italy the big disappointment in the seniors. They are unlikely to qualify for the quarter-finals|pg||
nt|Walddk2: Garozzo, Forquet and De Falco in the team|pg||
nt|Walddk2: After the final round this evening in Portugal, the pairings for the quater-finals will be decided. Teams ranked 1st, 2nd and 3rd will choose their opponents from among the teams ...|pg||
nt|Walddk2: ranked 5th through 8th.|pg||
nt|bjacobs: South can set up a heart. but it|pg||
nt|bjacobs: is only an 8th trick|pg||
nt|jallerton: South would like to safety play the @s (low to 7) but that blocks the suit|pg||
nt|bjacobs: South couldn't really afford to take @SK on @SQ (as suggested by some specs), because that could block up the suit when it is 3-2|pg||
pc|d9|pc|dA|nt|yuval10: it's definately a top match, as after 7 rounds, Italy not surprisingly ranks 1st, and Brazil 5th|pg||
nt|beto: hi all|pg||
nt|szalay: but Brazil in losing series, so for them need a good win|pg||
nt|eggy: and could have been closer - Brasil surprisingly fell away this morning after a blistering start|pg||
pc|d6|nt|csimon: unless declarer plays to squash the doubleton 7|pg||
nt|csimon: not % I think|pg||
nt|hedyg: 2@s is 5+ weak in nonvulnerable|pg||
nt|henryb: This can be made: SJ, D ruff S9|pg||
nt|gerben42: Lambardi helping to speed things up there |pg||
pc|d7|pg||
nt|Walddk2: As I said before, this match is crucial for both teams, so every single IMP counts|pg||
pc|sJ|nt|yuval10: top 5 :  Italy 160, Egypt 145, USA2 (Ekeblad-Gitelman) 139 Argentina (madele) 134  Brazil (chagas) 132|pg||
pc|d5|nt|brolucius: Declarer has a diamond entry for the heart finesse. Otherwise she would have had to play a heart from the table and would be exposed to a club guess for the contract.|pg||
nt|csimon: technically perfect play and a big swing to China|pg||
nt|sommer: ..but N is in trouble  .. she should have finnessed in @H to make sure of 9 tricks|pg||
nt|tsanders: now at the crossroads: who has what?|pg||
pc|s6|nt|Walddk4: Welcome to Roberto Barbosa de Oliveira from Brazil|pg||
nt|eggy: bom dia Roberto|pg||
nt|szalay: bom dia|pg||
nt|yuval10: Brazil also lost to Egypt in the last match of yesterday by a whopping 25:3|pg||
nt|mich-b: Maybe West could suggest 3NT in his 3rd bid , with his 5422 , extras , and weak trumps?|pg||
nt|dinos1: @s and claim|pg||
nt|cuttysark: He will ruff a diamond and hope the suit breaks - cannot afford a second round of trump|pg||
nt|mich-b: meant 2@S , sorry|pg||
nt|csimon: N would have saved a trick by continuing @ds|pg||
pc|sK|pg||
nt|swanson: A double finesse in clubs is possible, but anti-percentage in a vaccum and not to be considered through a preemptor.|pg||
nt|henryb: Cashin D first will get down 2|pg||
nt|csimon: no reason to go down 2|pg||
nt|bjacobs: So far, there are no imps at all to count|pg||
pc|d3|pc|dK|nt|sommer: ok:)|pg||
pc|dT|nt|szalay: A of @D is sure play for the most of distribution|pg||
nt|brolucius: Not in trouble with the heart king right.|pg||
nt|mcphee: a @H now will lead to another down trick|pg||
nt|mcphee: maybe not|pg||
nt|Vugraph803: TD called to the table about possible thinking of Chok|pg||
nt|kista: One suit Squeeze will work|pg||
pc|d8|pg||
pc|cQ|nt|odysseus69: he is even going to have a count b4 playing clubs|pg||
nt|Walddk1: Just be happy that we didn't have badminton on BBO vugraph in the 60's. Because a name like Thailand's Chanarong Ratanasaengsuang could take anyone's breath away|pg||
pc|cK|nt|mcphee: that is a mouthfull|pg||
nt|kista: more than a...|pg||
pc|cA|nt|cuttysark: I think China should have reached game anyway...|pg||
pc|c6|pg||
pc|hA|nt|sommer: no no, @D7 was worth more than a beer here:)|pg||
nt|jallerton: could be 1 imp to Argentina on this board|pg||
nt|eggy: could have been 1 here, but not now|pg||
nt|bjacobs: Don't think so|pg||
nt|eggy: If you introduce it now Roland, please don't put me down for commentary|pg||
pc|d4|nt|csimon: true Povl :))|pg||
pc|h3|nt|hedyg: to get the players CCs: http://www.ecatsbridge.org/Events/wbf/2005estoril/default.asp|pg||
pc|h8|pg||
pc|s8|nt|tsanders: E subjected to a funny little sqz|pg||
pc|s7|pc|c2|nt|Vugraph803: still discussing with TD|pg||
nt|mcphee: i can't think there will be any reversal on this hand|pg||
pc|c5|pg||
pc|c4|pc|c7|nt|brolucius: So, a big swing comes from nobody doing anything particularly wrong. Both sides bid forwardly and it then depended on which way round you played the contract.|pg||
pc|cJ|pc|c8|pg||
pc|dQ|pc|hT|pc|c3|pc|dJ|pg||
pc|d2|pc|hQ|pc|c9|pc|cT|pg||
nt|jack2001: WBridge5 nicely squeezed east for an overtrick|pg||
pg||
qx|o3|st||md|1S984HQ8DQ654C9873,S3HAT63D872CAQT64,SAJT76HKJ7DAK3CK5,SKQ52H9542DJT9CJ2|sv|e|mb|p|mb|1C|mb|d|nt|mrdct: i see, and 1, 2 & 3 obviously didn't pick the USA that came 5th|pg||
mb|1H|mb|p|mb|2H|mb|2S|mb|p|mb|3S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|Walddk2: http://www.worldbridge1.org/bulletin/05_2%20Estoril/bul_08.pdf   for the pairings in the quarter-finals in all 3 series|pg||
nt|sartre: Another of our guest commentators is Mike Whittaker from Blue Chip Bridge.|pg||
nt|mrdct: nice stop|pg||
pc|h5|pc|h8|pc|hA|nt|sartre: Mike sez: 3S is a bit aggressive, even for Jack, on two queens, one possibly worthless on the bidding.|pg||
pc|h7|pg||
pc|h3|pc|hJ|pc|h2|pc|hQ|pg||
pc|s4|pc|s3|nt|mrdct: generally winning bridge is to err on the side of aggression|pg||
pc|sJ|pc|sQ|pg||
nt|sartre: Jack will need to handle the KQxx offside in trumps here.|pg||
pc|c2|pc|c3|pc|cA|pc|c5|pg||
nt|sartre: The AC onside helps.|pg||
pc|cT|pc|cK|pc|cJ|nt|mrdct: not much can go wrong here |pg||
pc|c7|pg||
pc|d3|pc|d9|pc|dQ|pc|d2|pg||
nt|mrdct: tries for the overtrick|pg||
pc|s8|pc|c4|nt|sartre: Bridge Baron sez: Jack's aggression has served well in the past.  However, in the third quarter, Jack went down at both tables on four successive deals, costing 20 IMPs.|pg||
pc|s6|pc|sK|pg||
nt|Walddk2: Time schedule for the 3 segments of the QFs today: 12, 15 and 18 Paris, 6, 9 and 12 New York, 10 pm, 1 am and 4 am Sydney|pg||
mc|9|pg||
qx|c3|st||md|1S984HQ8DQ654C9873,S3HAT63D872CAQT64,SAJT76HKJ7DAK3CK5,SKQ52H9542DJT9CJ2|sv|e|nt|lesniak: not the best contract but licky one|pg||
nt|davpro: yes- they clearly must have had some missunderstanding|pg||
nt|vugraph801: fgffgf|pg||
nt|hedyg: 20 imps in the first 2 boards!|pg||
nt|csimon: CR got a trump lead - that made it a bit easier|pg||
nt|swanson: East - West are now officially ill.|pg||
nt|bjacobs: Well, I guess that's why Versace is at the table, and we are all watching|pg||
nt|szalay: cause of u can play @C later as well|pg||
nt|nickf: looks like 3NT EW here|pg||
nt|Walddk2: West is in 3NT at the other table and going down|pg||
nt|csimon: the Chinese are EXTREMELY aggressive bidders - which is why I was very surprised by bd 1|pg||
nt|sommer: slam?|pg||
nt|mich-b: Spectators are asking for some info about the players |pg||
nt|csimon: that was also insulting to the opponents|pg||
nt|davpro: in that case it might ghave been a good play...are they mad yet? :-)|pg||
nt|bjacobs: Sweden ahead by 10 total points|pg||
nt|eggy: after 2 boards, I think only 2 matches had any VP swings in th ebowl|pg||
nt|aap00: .|pg||
nt|Vugraph803: next hand|pg||
nt|mcphee: poor judegement from El Kourdy to bid over 4N|pg||
mb|p|nt|aap00: hi al|pg||
mb|p|nt|szalay: its perfect small slam=nordic grand slam|pg||
nt|szalay: despite of bad trumop break its make thx to @C-@H squeeze|pg||
nt|cuttysark: These long matches tend to ebb and flow (unless you are Italian, when they only ebb)|pg||
nt|jbgood: I still claim that trumps are lead too often:)|pg||
nt|hedyg: lol|pg||
nt|gerben42: L - V too perhaps, if you look at the scorecard for the other table they aren't participating|pg||
nt|gerben42: 1NT = 12 - 14 freedom style|pg||
nt|gerben42: they open 1NT on anything remotely like it|pg||
nt|odysseus69: ok -you are right John- I predict a push|pg||
nt|sommer: 6@C E is possible|pg||
nt|mich-b: Victor , can you present the Hacketts for us?|pg||
nt|csimon: 4@s is a good save|pg||
nt|mich-b: Chen- Furuta , are a young pair, representing the new generation of Japanese Bridge|pg||
nt|davpro: have|pg||
nt|csimon: lol :)))|pg||
nt|aap00: 3n for ew|pg||
nt|mcphee: no @H fit, poor @c|pg||
mb|1S|nt|gerben42: welcome |pg||
mb|p|nt|scotty: This hand may test E-W signaling methods|pg||
nt|timb: bad luck for EW on this hand as slam is good |pg||
nt|desert: this looks like plain sailing in 3NT|pg||
nt|tsanders: sometimes a trouble with Precision is when you "do" have @ds|pg||
mb|p|nt|hedyg: 2@c is any gameforcing hand|pg||
nt|hedyg: 2@c is either a limit hand with fit or gameforcing|pg||
nt|mcphee: awkward to balance here|pg||
nt|kista: East can dbl for take out|pg||
mb|d|nt|beto: wins with a trump coup too i think|pg||
nt|szalay: only @S lead (from west) causes problem, but solvable anyway|pg||
nt|vugraph141: 4@s = @d slam try|pg||
nt|mich-b: how strong is this 1nt?|pg||
nt|frenske: 17-19|pg||
nt|nickf: on what lead ?|pg||
nt|szalay: 3N wont be a real test...morning coffee for me, brb|pg||
nt|mich-b: Trying to combine both options cost her 2 Imps|pg||
nt|scotty: 2@s shows no 4-card M|pg||
nt|jallerton: Quiet boards for early in the morning.  All the wild boards were last night|pg||
nt|mcphee: yes, but would not welcome a 2@D call from partner|pg||
mb|r|nt|henryb: 2C is an artificial game force|pg||
nt|brolucius: I predict 4@S|pg||
nt|brolucius: Definitely my last prediction if I am wrong.|pg||
nt|csimon: but an unlikely one|pg||
nt|odysseus69: the Hacket twins have been regulars in the England team for what seems like for-ever.|pg||
nt|mich-b: I am told Chen is actually Chinese, and has lived in japan for many years|pg||
nt|henryb: In 1989 one of the American Women's pairs made a living staying out of 23 and 24 point games|pg||
nt|scotty: With a useful hand|pg||
nt|Walddk2: We will get a few later on, too early for most people|pg||
nt|gerben42: i think all the "seeded" teams play each other in the evenings maybe that's why the exciting boards are in nights|pg||
nt|kista: Probably cautious after the last board|pg||
mb|p|nt|scotty: Soloway at the top of his range here - Hamman will probably pass|pg||
nt|sommer: difficult now for E, X is best|pg||
nt|csimon: England did very well in the CR|pg||
nt|odysseus69: They reached the top very early having been introduced to the game and championed by their father,Paul Hacket - still a current International|pg||
nt|swanson: Yes, SOuth bid 4@S over 4@H after the same auction at the other table.  Seems speculative to me.|pg||
nt|henryb: They picked up 5 or 6 imps on more boards than I can remember|pg||
nt|csimon: at least there is an excuse for bidding this one - the vul game bonus|pg||
nt|davpro: Defense will have to do alot wrong for this to make...and I doubt they will..|pg||
nt|mich-b: Well, what is the popular opinion today? lead a small @H , or an honour , from KQxx ?|pg||
mb|p|nt|eggy: as it happens East is caught in 3 suits, so it can be played as a simple automatic in the blacks, or an either/or double (East Clubs, West Spades|pg||
nt|yuval10: @d slam try, and nunes didn't accept with all those controls?|pg||
nt|roghog: If Fu bangs out his A, will declarer suspect a bad break in trumps?|pg||
nt|szalay: went down? dont believe|pg||
nt|Walddk2: @H6|pg||
nt|brolucius: Aagh!|pg||
nt|eggy: It's the last thing you want if you are playing the bottom team though|pg||
mb|2C|nt|davpro: Suspect yes...but will he dare to play on it?|pg||
nt|hedyg: he seems to play "points shmoints" and i must say i agree with him on this hand|pg||
nt|hedyg: 2@d is relay and 2@h is relay|pg||
nt|csimon: and Garozzo's 2@d was a relay of sorts?|pg||
nt|swanson: 2@D is a relay, not necessarily hearts.|pg||
mb|3S|nt|szalay: 4N is tough to play yet|pg||
nt|nickf: you must drink instant coffee if you got it that quickly|pg||
nt|bjacobs: How does a heart lead help?|pg||
nt|bjacobs: I'm with Georg|pg||
nt|nickf: and then played the @DK did he ?|pg||
nt|sommer: ..but not pass from W:)|pg||
nt|davpro: lead the right one...:-)|pg||
nt|davpro: it depends...alot...|pg||
nt|csimon: I think the poll would go about 80-20 for leading small (maybe even higher)|pg||
nt|scotty: If N finds a heart lead, there could be a problem|pg||
nt|jallerton: Plating strong @c (1@d could be short) , East is not going to risk a @d lead|pg||
mb|p|nt|cuttysark: Big view - could East be accused of playing with her fingers?|pg||
nt|odysseus69: how is your Italian fellow commentators|pg||
nt|henryb: Minimal|pg||
nt|gerben42: I have a telephone joker for that|pg||
nt|Zmud99: 2@H is 4@H or maximum without majors|pg||
nt|bjacobs: Ah, the penny drops|pg||
nt|cuttysark: Don't think he can afford that 8!|pg||
nt|brolucius: What else can West do?|pg||
mb|p|nt|roghog: An italian maestro told me always to play for bad frump breaks if they lead an A|pg||
nt|scotty: no I guess not|pg||
nt|ozdil: any lead he can make 9 tricks...|pg||
nt|scotty: Fantoni-Nunes play very unusual spot card leads vs. NT|pg||
nt|aap00: no problem at all|pg||
nt|stewball: a @d lead for a push|pg||
nt|scotty: Low shows a good holding with an honor OR a bad holding with no honor|pg||
nt|aap00: some story cud be if N be able to introduce @d, say after 1@c opening...|pg||
nt|scotty: High, the opposite|pg||
nt|stewball: the rule of something or other|pg||
nt|scotty: Sorry, meamt low shows and odd number with an honor OR even number with no honor|pg||
nt|scotty: high the opposite|pg||
nt|scotty: Fantoni will probably lead @h9|pg||
nt|stewball: Fantoni probably asking about stopper inferences|pg||
nt|kista: yes very likely|pg||
mb|p|nt|hedyg: 20 honors with nice spotcards in @c and 5-5 is a beautiful hand|pg||
nt|hedyg: 2nt a minimum balanced hand|pg||
nt|henryb: 2D denied various unusual hands|pg||
nt|gerben42: you have the script?|pg||
nt|bjacobs: The danger of looking at the hand at double dummy|pg||
nt|scotty: So that shows an odd number with no honor OR even number with an honor|pg||
nt|scotty: From Nunes's point of view, if his partner has @CQ instead of @dQ, he has a good chance to defeat this.|pg||
nt|ozdil: probably top of nothing lead is not good in this position, if pd has ace of heart also give the contract, best lead is Q diamond for me|pg||
nt|jallerton: Playing even|pg||
nt|Walddk2: We have almost 2,500 spectators at the 2 tables. We expect to break the record of users online in the last round today. It stands at 8,194|pg||
nt|gerben42: could even be things like 3415|pg||
nt|kista: EW can easily be stolen blind of a M game in this auction|pg||
nt|jack2001: 3S is the limit on this board. Perhaps South could have pushed to 4S here.|pg||
pc|cJ|nt|lesniak: nice moment for Soloway|pg||
nt|mich-b: Soloway had an easy decison over Hamman's t/o Dbl|pg||
nt|davpro: I never have AKQJ of trumps when P makes a double....|pg||
nt|mich-b: what do you think about Martens' reopening 2@S ?|pg||
nt|szalay: after 8 of @H u know the place of A|pg||
nt|brolucius: I don't like East's double at all, particularly at the vulnerability|pg||
nt|odysseus69: All 3 Hackets are playing in current Trials for Warsaw- in different teams|pg||
nt|timb: Australian open declarer failed in 1NT and the USA1 in 2NT - flat board|pg||
pc|c3|nt|odysseus69: i confess to feeling stupid when supposed to be commentating on bidding I do not understand|pg||
nt|gerben42: 2@D was a transfer to @H|pg||
nt|gerben42: but might deny them later on|pg||
nt|odysseus69: there is as much chance of me finding the system notes as ... My maximum is to arrive here|pg||
nt|swanson: Fantoni - Nunes convention cards at: http://public.aci.on.ca/ zpetkov/CC/fantoni-nunes.pdf|pg||
nt|Walddk2: Not much of a problem wen the 9 held|pg||
nt|Walddk2: when|pg||
nt|szalay: italy is on front...but egypt has weapons yet:-)|pg||
nt|cuttysark: No, easy now, second blood to Italy|pg||
nt|sommer: it depends on, if 2@H denies 4c @H, I think ..X is mainly t/o as I see it|pg||
pc|cA|nt|scotty: I like the balance by Martens here - he knows his partner has a decent hand with cards over the strong hand.  DEfending 1N has no attraction |pg||
nt|dinos1: six top tricks - down 1|pg||
nt|mich-b: Personally , any time I lead small , declarer wins with the Jack ...|pg||
pc|c5|pg||
nt|davpro: do they lead 4th from top? :-)|pg||
nt|davpro: the bidding went overbord...but ended in the right (wrong? ) spot|pg||
nt|bjacobs: East is sort of endplayed here|pg||
nt|gerben42: will keep an eye on that 8,194 number tonight|pg||
nt|timb: After five boards, the two Australian matches I'm following are 0-2 and 1-1. As my old friend Keith McNeil would say "We need some blood spilt!|pg||
nt|Walddk2: This is pretty slow going. The alloted time for 20 boards playing with screens is 2 hours and 50 minutes|pg||
nt|bjacobs: It's very difficult, but if East had been able to duck the @HJ smoothly, then the defence might have had chances|pg||
pc|cQ|nt|hedyg: those Italian Maestro gave good advice:))|pg||
nt|timb: 6NT makes if guess either hearts or clubs (provided you unblock @H10) |pg||
nt|roghog: ... in Tenerife|pg||
nt|jbgood: and 3 NT denied an unusual result|pg||
nt|mich-b: but maybe that is only a personal issue|pg||
nt|Walddk2: Sure from AJ doubleton opposite 2 or 3 small|pg||
pc|cK|nt|bjacobs: Suppose a low heart lead had gone to the J and Q ... what is the best play by declarer from there?|pg||
nt|scotty: DEclarer will attack spades first|pg||
pc|c2|nt|cuttysark: (Since David Burn is not here)|pg||
pc|c7|pg||
pc|h7|nt|hedyg: now if he just listens to Liz...|pg||
nt|gerben42: anyone predicting other than flat board?|pg||
nt|tsanders: appears to be off 2, a good save vs 3NT|pg||
nt|brolucius: You see... Gu did bid 4@S at the other table after just the same auction!|pg||
pc|h2|nt|szalay: easier now...after small @S shift declarer gotta play for blockage|pg||
nt|frenske: 6 top tricks|pg||
nt|cuttysark: Personally I would cash an ace against this bidding with any old heart holding|pg||
nt|hedyg: :)|pg||
nt|gerben42: we've been wrong before!|pg||
nt|gerben42: how about floating a @D?|pg||
pc|hQ|nt|tsanders: or even a 4@s contract which I believe would have made|pg||
pc|hA|pg||
pc|s3|nt|timb: so would I|pg||
nt|davpro: what @H would you play on the first round? 54 or 3|pg||
nt|cuttysark: Yes|pg||
nt|hedyg: i am told the Russian player made 6@h|pg||
nt|odysseus69: I guess they are now mid 30s - but still called the"boys" by everyone|pg||
nt|frenske: justin is married with Barbara Stawowy and is a great fan from Man United there are both my aged 35!|pg||
nt|csimon: and E has no entry to shoot a @c through for a potential ruff to get 500|pg||
nt|mich-b: I am told Japan Qualified to this event from zone 6 , by 1 IMP gained on the last board  of their last match against Indonesia|pg||
nt|gerben42: after 5 boards USA2 to Guadeloupe is still goalless draw|pg||
nt|bjacobs: Declarer could play @CQ here, knowing that at least one of @CK and @HK must be with West|pg||
nt|gerben42: but India seems to play more interesting boards as they lead 23 - 1|pg||
pc|sA|nt|sommer: but, sry, why is E to decide?|pg||
nt|csimon: I wouldn't want to have Smith's decision|pg||
nt|sommer: W should in my opinion bid 4!@H on partners t/oX|pg||
nt|scotty: Well if you switch @cK and @dK, heart lead is the winner|pg||
nt|Walddk2: The same can't be said in the match between Italy and Bangladesh (seniors). BD up by 21|pg||
pc|s2|nt|henryb: There is a very interesting article in the Bridge World this month on reading signals|pg||
nt|csimon: my tiny personal poll of specs who wrote in was 100% for small|pg||
nt|kista: Another 5 imps to India|pg||
pc|s4|pg||
nt|gerben42: with @HA out of the way probably wont work anymore|pg||
nt|Walddk2: Or Ax    Jx     |pg||
nt|davpro: Mats Nilsland says that if you lead low and it is wrong...you have not only led badly...you have also given up youre right to lead...but if you lead high and it is wrong you might ...|pg||
nt|davpro: be able to shift (in time)|pg||
pc|s7|nt|lesniak: Martens should escape only 1 down with lucky heart-club position|pg||
nt|bjacobs: The Egyptian West must have played @DK, hoping to lose a diamond to the "safe" South hand|pg||
nt|roghog: @D , intending to plat the 8, I guess, Bill|pg||
nt|szalay: K of @D is ok if we think @H lead came from shortness|pg||
nt|frenske: Barbara plays in the german ladies team here in Estoril|pg||
nt|mich-b: in the CR , Townsend applied the philosophy , that 4@S over 4@H is always good |pg||
nt|swanson: Hi!|pg||
pc|sQ|nt|mich-b: this approach seems to work pretty well , at times :)|pg||
nt|odysseus69: Justin has recently taken up poker on the internet- and is yet another big winner- playing on multiple dcreens|pg||
nt|davpro: Personaly I think low is best...but far from all the time...|pg||
pc|s8|nt|roghog: My spy (many thanks) says the Chinese ladies made this one. Should be in the Open!|pg||
nt|odysseus69: thx John - i went there but could see nothing after 1NT-maybe in small print|pg||
nt|gerben42: no is nothing there|pg||
pc|c4|pg||
nt|scotty: WAsn't there a Hamman Wolff hand where the strong clubber had AKQJ FIFTH, yet they still made 2@s doubled?|pg||
nt|Walddk2: Or  Axx   Jx        it all depends on the layout|pg||
nt|csimon: so the real answer is to be omniscient and do what's right|pg||
nt|mich-b: Michael Rosenberg suggests it may depend on the spot cards|pg||
nt|mich-b: The higher the spots , you tend to lead the Honour|pg||
nt|bjacobs: This looks like a goal to Argentina|pg||
pc|s5|nt|nickf: then the roof caved in|pg||
nt|szalay: otherwise small toward 8 is clearly better|pg||
nt|bjacobs: Diamond to the 8 is only troublesome if North has Qxxx or Jxxx|pg||
nt|Walddk2: @DK at trick 2 it was|pg||
nt|brolucius: Smith could perhaps have bid 4@H herself when 5-4 in the majors.|pg||
nt|davpro: But the truth is: it depends on what P has got :-)|pg||
pc|s9|pc|d2|pc|s6|pg||
nt|sommer: Q97 is not to punish with red/white|pg||
nt|timb: all sensible roads lead to +90|pg||
pc|c8|pc|cT|nt|Walddk2: Right, and may meet at the World Cup in Germany next summer|pg||
pc|sJ|pc|sK|pg||
nt|desert: looking at the actual leaderboard.....1. Italy 382 2. India 340 USA1 340 Egypt 340 5. Argentina 339,5 6. China 339 7 USA2 338 8. Sweden 336 9. Brazil 323.......this will get hot!|pg||
pc|h5|nt|brolucius: Double suggests 'Bid 4@S with 3-card support, otherwise defend.'|pg||
nt|aap00: now decl has some problems, he can't cash all @c, it'll squeese dummy|pg||
pc|h8|pc|hT|nt|csimon: 9 tops and opponents of Sontag/Weichsel's class will not misdiscard and give up a 10th trick|pg||
nt|csimon: now, don't make me eat those words Peter & Alan!|pg||
nt|Walddk2: Football that is|pg||
nt|Walddk2: real football!|pg||
nt|eggy: Association|pg||
pc|hK|pg||
nt|Walddk4: Sontag-Weichsel sitting out, so you are quite right, Carol :-)|pg||
pc|d3|pc|d9|nt|scotty: @d lead needs partner to have 2 tricks PLUS diamonds must be good.  I think it's better to hope declarer has @dK|pg||
nt|eggy: I don't think that Dagher will be happy with the order of EL Kourdy's @H pips|pg||
pc|dQ|pc|d7|pg||
nt|kista: now he makes only 3|pg||
nt|kista: 5 players from this Indian team qualifeid into the last eight in Bermuda bowl in Paris|pg||
pc|c9|pc|c6|nt|odysseus69: down to 10 tricks|pg||
nt|scotty: he has 9 tricks|pg||
pc|dA|pc|h4|pg||
mc|9|pg||
qx|o4|st||md|2S74HJT8DAK9653CKQ,SKQ86HQ6DT84CJ873,SJ3HAK5432D7CA952,SAT952H97DQJ2CT64|sv|b|nt|mrdct: quite inconvenient for me - could you ask europe to go back on daylight savings time for roland?|pg||
nt|Walddk2: 11, 2 and 5 London|pg||
nt|sartre: After the first 3 deals of the fourth quarter, the only score is an overtrick IMP to WBridge5 on deal 2 in 3NT.|pg||
mb|p|mb|1H|mb|p|nt|Walddk2: Do they have a time limit?|pg||
nt|sartre: WB5 seemed to pick up the overtrick in the closed room by means of a squeeze.|pg||
mb|2D|mb|p|mb|2H|nt|sartre: Computers play two minutes per partnership per deal, or four minutes per all four players per deal -- about twice as fast as humans.|pg||
mb|p|mb|2S!|mb|p|nt|sartre: 2H is forcing here.|pg||
nt|sartre: 2S is a game-forcing relay.|pg||
nt|Walddk2: So I guess PO Sundeline didn't programme them :-)|pg||
mb|3C!|an|unknown minor|mb|p|mb|3D!|an|relay|nt|al9al9: Good play this year from third place finisher Q Plus Bridge and fourth place finisher Micro Bridge|pg||
mb|p|nt|sartre: 3C shows 10 to 14 HCP, 4+ in either minor, and 0 to 3 spades.|pg||
nt|Walddk2: are the computers in this competitions restricted in what systems they are allowed to use? |pg||
nt|sartre: 3D is a relay showing 5+ diamonds or 3+ hearts.|pg||
mb|3S!|an|hearts and clubs|mb|p|mb|4H|nt|mrdct: jack should be able to diagnose the lack of @s control here an stop short of slam|pg||
mb|p|nt|sartre: The computers in this competition are restricted to relatively natural opening bids.  The rest can be rather scientific.|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|pc|h9|nt|al9al9: Jack and Wbridge5 were clearly the best this year, with Jack winning 9 of 10 20 board segments|pg||
pc|hT|nt|sartre: 3S shows 6+ hearts, 4+ clubs; 4H is to play.|pg||
pc|hQ|pc|hA|pg||
pc|h2|pc|h7|pc|h8|pc|h6|pg||
pc|dK|pc|d4|pc|d7|pc|d2|pg||
pc|d3|nt|sartre: With no spade lead, Jack looks to make overtricks here.|pg||
pc|d8|nt|mrdct: 13|pg||
pc|h3|pc|dJ|pg||
pc|c2|pc|c4|pc|cQ|pc|c7|pg||
pc|d5|pc|dT|nt|sartre: 3-3 diamond break makes it easy to set up the suit.  Portuguese keyboards make it difficult to type punctuation.|pg||
pc|h4|pc|dQ|pg||
pc|c5|pc|c6|pc|cK|pc|c3|pg||
nt|mrdct: blew a trick there|pg||
pc|d6|pc|s6|pc|s3|nt|mrdct: undo that comment|pg||
pc|cT|pg||
pc|d9|pc|s8|nt|Walddk2: I can already see that these "guys" play considerably better than my aunt Mary|pg||
pc|h5|pc|s2|pg||
pc|c9|pc|s5|pc|hJ|pc|c8|pg||
nt|Walddk2: No offence intended, Mary|pg||
pc|dA|pc|cJ|pc|sJ|pc|s9|pg||
nt|sartre: No spade lead in the closed room either.  Looks like another push at +710.  Jack needs some swingy boards to make up some ground.|pg||
nt|al9al9: better than Intermediate but not expert...yet...|pg||
mc|13|pg||
qx|c4|st||md|2S74HJT8DAK9653CKQ,SKQ86HQ6DT84CJ873,SJ3HAK5432D7CA952,SAT952H97DQJ2CT64|sv|b|nt|szalay: well done, but likely Brazilian IMPs|pg||
nt|vugraph141: claudio nunes groans...|pg||
nt|beto: 3nt was the contract at the other room|pg||
nt|hedyg: 6@d is easy|pg||
nt|hedyg: sitting out?|pg||
nt|csimon: who are these phantom players named Sontag & Weichsel?|pg||
nt|Walddk4: OK then :-)|pg||
nt|hedyg: lol|pg||
nt|swanson: A bit strange to not lead towards the diamond holding.|pg||
nt|gerben42: hmm not stable here|pg||
nt|gerben42: when I get that hand I never get 3 passes to me|pg||
nt|Walddk2: South in 4@S in the other room|pg||
nt|szalay: small to 8 is problem if: North has that holding AND 3-card @H|pg||
nt|csimon: and then Smith should convert 4@h to 5@c?  that might get them to 6@c the right way up|pg||
nt|brolucius: I still think 4@S is right. East cannot expect a high club contract to be on. West had a super-max with 18 points.|pg||
nt|odysseus69: I mean Jason - sorry|pg||
nt|mich-b: We seem to have a sequence of "non-exciting" 3NT contracts|pg||
nt|timb: that's soccer down here|pg||
mb|p|nt|beto: made 10 tricks, 1 imps to italy|pg||
nt|beto: results can be found at http://www.swangames.com/main/Bridgecast/Rama/Estoril_2005/estoril_2005.html|pg||
nt|eggy: maybe the heart pips will save Fantoni going overboard here|pg||
nt|Walddk4: I am asked where Zia is. He is in Estoril too, but playing for USA2|pg||
nt|bjacobs: or maybe 4-4 herats|pg||
nt|sommer: or 5-3-1-4, 5-3-0-5, 5-2-1-5   in my humble opinion:))|pg||
nt|brolucius: And less wasted in diamonds that East might expect.|pg||
nt|kista: 12 tricks in @h's or @s's without a @d lead for NS|pg||
nt|timb: Footy here is Aussie Rules|pg||
mb|1H|nt|Walddk4: With John Mohan|pg||
nt|hedyg: for running scores: http://www.swangames.com/main/Bridgecast/Rama/Estoril_2005/estoril_2005.html|pg||
nt|hedyg: michaels 2nt|pg||
nt|jbgood: closed room contract will not be duplicated now|pg||
nt|henryb: Just what Garozzo wanted to hear: partner has H & C|pg||
nt|Walddk2: In the closed room Fantoni - Nunes are NS against El Kourdy - Dagher|pg||
nt|Walddk2: http://www.swangames.com/main/Bridgecast/Rama/Estoril_2005/estoril_2005.html  for running scores in all 3 series|pg||
mb|1S|nt|gerben42: most reached 4@S here but some played 3@H|pg||
nt|Walddk2: Pretty dull 4@S with 2 losers. This should not take long|pg||
nt|Walddk1: The two USA teams will play each other in the quarter-finals if they finish 4th and 5th (unless 1-3 pick 5th)|pg||
mb|2D|nt|eggy: anyone prefer to pass South?|pg||
nt|lesniak: but part passing over 1 nt denies 5 hearts so grait chance for 2 hearts tricks...|pg||
nt|scotty: That result shows the value of balancing - he ran into a stack, and still lost only two imps.  Normally, it would be a winner|pg||
mb|3S|nt|beto: brazil played in 2@H making here|pg||
nt|yuval10: if W bids again they can found themselves in troubles|pg||
nt|henryb: 3H shows a forcing hand with spades|pg||
nt|csimon: Weichsel's 3@h is most likely competitive in @ss and 3@s would have been forcing|pg||
nt|gerben42: 1@S = natural and forcing|pg||
nt|cuttysark: Singleton club lead will see offf 4@S|pg||
nt|scotty: fantoni-Nunes also have an unusual opening style|pg||
nt|kista: 5@h appears to have gone down on a pronotion after @d K lead in the open room|pg||
nt|ozdil: 3 NT is best for NS, also 4 SP and 4 H is ok..|pg||
nt|scotty: 2-level shows about 10-14, 5-card suit |pg||
nt|stewball: Fred made only 10 tricks in the Closed Room|pg||
nt|aap00: open room lead in 5@h was small @d :)|pg||
nt|scotty: 1-level is unlimited|pg||
nt|stewball: low @d lead from the ace|pg||
nt|aap00: only way to defeat 5@h|pg||
nt|mcphee: this may be the first push board|pg||
nt|kista: Actually can make 3 because of favourable @c and @d's|pg||
nt|mcphee: I think declarer will be pleased to make 1 here|pg||
nt|kista: Yes but playing @c cannot be wrong at all|pg||
nt|mcphee: playing on @C he could actually go down|pg||
nt|kista: If the @d k is right any way there are 7 tricks|pg||
nt|Vugraph803: Dagher still thinking|pg||
nt|mcphee: even with the K@D onside he is only seeing 6  tricks|pg||
nt|kista: 4@d + 2@s + @hA|pg||
mb|p|nt|gerben42: 14 - 36 HCP approx.|pg||
nt|mich-b: A good start for England here |pg||
nt|mich-b: And they really need a good win , to try and advance towards the 8th place|pg||
nt|gerben42: with various amounts of undertricks|pg||
mb|p|nt|mich-b: A weak 6 card suit , is often worth bidding over their 1NT , since it might be worthless on defense|pg||
nt|davpro: yes- but harder to reach ?|pg||
nt|csimon: usually flipped in this situation Henry|pg||
nt|csimon: maybe 1nt was the culprit?|pg||
nt|sommer: it still very much depends on how you have agreed to play doubles with your partner|pg||
nt|brolucius: It looked best at the time. Only a double spade, so a double was not so attractive.|pg||
mb|4H|nt|frenske: jassem martens play vul polish club and not vul strong club|pg||
nt|mich-b: especially since pd is not likely to lead it|pg||
nt|dinos1: no save?|pg||
nt|hedyg: is 3@d a natural bid for all?|pg||
nt|davpro: yes (or atleast natural(ish)|pg||
nt|cuttysark: 2-way - either a cue or natural and very strong|pg||
nt|henryb: No, otherway around|pg||
nt|jbgood: right u are Carol|pg||
nt|jtr: 2m would be canape|pg||
mb|p|nt|scotty: N-s have a good save here, but no chance on this auction|pg||
nt|frenske: usa had a chance to save in 5@c|pg||
nt|hedyg: actually looks like they play Ghestem over a minor opening|pg||
nt|csimon: in the US we call it an unusual NT|pg||
nt|swanson: 2@D artificial, game force.|pg||
nt|scotty: after a revealing auction indicating no @d control|pg||
nt|kista: correct|pg||
nt|aap00: 4@s - 5@h ?|pg||
nt|mcphee: well as the cards lie that is so, however one does not expect 4@D tricks most days|pg||
mb|p|nt|szalay: I think west's double was optimistic: if partner passes over DBL and in passed-out seat: what can we lose?|pg||
nt|dinos1: X of 4@c - suggesting the save?|pg||
nt|hedyg: W took it as natural|pg||
nt|timb: difficult to for East to diagnose the @H control|pg||
nt|Walddk2: Good effort by the Chinese in the closed room. This is not an easily bid slam|pg||
nt|hedyg: 3@h would have been nice fromW|pg||
nt|davpro: it actually gets harder after W (preemptive) jumprebid|pg||
nt|roghog: Yes, cue first, and support next|pg||
nt|timb: Perhaps easier to bid if West passes 2@H. East bids 3@D and West splinters?|pg||
nt|hedyg: she has no way to ask him for a @h stopper|pg||
nt|brolucius: If East had held 5-3-3-2 shape and some points, she could only double after the initial transfer. She would not be pleased to hear 4@H.|pg||
nt|mich-b: 2@D here is an artificial game-force|pg||
nt|jack2001: Another board that will probably be flat in 4H in both rooms. Time is running out for Jack|pg||
mb|p|nt|davpro: sorry- missed the overcall (I'm blind)|pg||
nt|cuttysark: If East reads it|pg||
pc|c4|nt|mich-b: If South's Dbl was suggesting a good suit , and possibility of a save , they did have a chance|pg||
nt|hedyg: yes Timthat works too|pg||
nt|cuttysark: If only they had agreed a major she could bid 5M|pg||
nt|hedyg: yes Liz|pg||
nt|cuttysark: Has she been watching Zia?|pg||
nt|nickf: poland took a phantom sacrifice in 5D vs Australia on this one.|pg||
nt|nickf: who would overcall 2@d by east|pg||
nt|Walddk2: Not me|pg||
nt|bjacobs: bucket, please|pg||
nt|szalay: rather death and not 2@D yet|pg||
nt|cuttysark: Yeugh|pg||
nt|roghog: As Mrs Giggins says at our local club..I always lead a singleton, unless it's a void :-)|pg||
nt|henryb: 2D is GF relay|pg||
nt|Walddk2: 2@D is a GF relay|pg||
nt|ozdil: if N bid 4 SP now South can Pass|pg||
pc|cQ|nt|hedyg: lol a Zia anticuebid!|pg||
nt|bjacobs: sturdy advice indeed|pg||
nt|roghog: sturdy woman...|pg||
nt|nickf: a friend told me once of an opponent alerting a partner's lead - as a singleton - becasue it was led with the left hand|pg||
nt|Walddk2: Isn't that common everywhere?|pg||
nt|bjacobs: that's all above board, as long as it's on the system card|pg||
nt|cuttysark: Old chestnut|pg||
nt|scotty: after 1@s-2@h, 3@h-3@s, N bid 3N as a strong slam try.  When S signed off, N should probably have respected that|pg||
nt|aap00: may be pass now, no @d control|pg||
nt|aap00: ?|pg||
nt|ozdil: Why not Pass if he knows pd has no diamond contrul?|pg||
pc|c3|nt|eggy: I agree, the last thing we want is partner to bid 2D|pg||
nt|odysseus69: WELL!|pg||
nt|tsanders: both N and S made some very good decisions|pg||
nt|sommer: no, she would move 4@H to 4@S showing a usefull @Csuit!|pg||
nt|csimon: this is a no-pt 3nt|pg||
nt|brolucius: What, on 5-3-3-2 shape?|pg||
nt|csimon: every card is favorable|pg||
nt|sommer: no , not with 5-3-3-2 |pg||
nt|brolucius: Well, you can't change West's bid according to what East holds. |pg||
nt|sommer: I don't:)|pg||
nt|csimon: even if you are locked out of the N hand, the defense can play nothing that won't help you|pg||
nt|brolucius: Basically 4@H does not look sound to me. It was the double that caused the trouble (as I see it... in my humble opinion... etc..)|pg||
nt|Walddk2: http://www.swangames.com/main/Bridgecast/Rama/Estoril_2005/estoril_2005.html  for running scores in all 3 series|pg||
nt|Walddk2: http://www.ecatsbridge.com/Events/wbf/2005estoril/default.asp  for system cards|pg||
nt|mich-b: quite popular today to play after 1x-1y-1NT|pg||
pc|c2|pg||
nt|henryb: Not clead that he can make this. Seem to be 5 losers|pg||
nt|henryb: As Joey would say, Next|pg||
nt|mich-b: 2m would be "surely canape"  or "possibly canape"?|pg||
nt|jtr: surely i believe|pg||
nt|mich-b: to explain : canape is a style of bidding where one opens in his 2nd longest suit , and later bids a longer one|pg||
nt|kista: It is clear that @d controls are missing|pg||
nt|stewball: same infererence is available here.....|pg||
nt|scotty: Same principle here - Hampson will lead low @d|pg||
pc|hJ|nt|lesniak: Martens's 4 clubs is "strong splinter"|pg||
nt|roghog: Many play 4@H as an A ask on this|pg||
nt|hedyg: well, she tried!|pg||
nt|cuttysark: Hasn't helped, though|pg||
nt|mich-b: that 2@C is any invite, and 2@D any GF|pg||
nt|kista: Flat board |pg||
nt|stewball: well done|pg||
nt|aap00: well done |pg||
pc|h6|nt|cuttysark: Someone says Last Train - I suppose any other bid would be ambiguous?|pg||
nt|odysseus69: looks like a good stop except that 3 NT is hard to defend|pg||
nt|mich-b: "possibly" makes more sense to me - I think they will bid 2@C with 5-4 or 4-5 |pg||
pc|hA|nt|hedyg: if you decide to open the W hand and to rebid a free 3@c then you MUST bid out your hand!|pg||
pc|h7|pg||
nt|scotty: Not sure I understand the double of 4@c  |pg||
nt|swanson: The best lead, giving West rounded suit out cards when he wins the @DA.|pg||
pc|hK|nt|jack2001: Hard to find the spade lead. North will take all the tricks now.|pg||
pc|h9|pc|h8|nt|gerben42: Versace ducked the @D twice and then there were 9|pg||
nt|kista: Venkat falsecarded but..|pg||
pc|hQ|pg||
nt|roghog: I'm told several made the slam on the last board. An exciting set :-)|pg||
nt|mich-b: but I don't know their system details very well|pg||
nt|davpro: I once played 2 matches in a row with a new P...our only agreement was that we play canape...it was very amusing :-)|pg||
nt|Walddk2: Good afternoon to David Burn, live from the venue in Estoril|pg||
nt|henryb: I think they open 2C with 4-5/|pg||
nt|jtr: apparently it would show 9 cards anyway|pg||
nt|dburn: Hello|pg||
nt|mich-b: Hi David|pg||
nt|jtr: Morning David|pg||
nt|csimon: hi David :)|pg||
nt|Walddk2: http://www.swangames.com/main/Bridgecast/Rama/Estoril_2005/estoril_2005.html  for running scores in all 3 series|pg||
pc|d7|nt|cuttysark: There goes the second undertrick|pg||
pc|d2|nt|henryb: You need to give count|pg||
pc|dK|nt|lesniak: 13-15|pg||
nt|henryb: I think he will make 4|pg||
nt|gerben42: and if he'd take it endplay|pg||
nt|swanson: East needs to discard a diamond count card here to help his partner.|pg||
nt|henryb: Now a club pitch, and East should show D count|pg||
nt|scotty: Americans had a much better chance to stop in 4@h, on their auction|pg||
pc|d4|pg||
nt|csimon: tell us about Estoril during this boring 3nt - is it a beautiful resort town?|pg||
nt|Walddk2: Our last match today at 18.30 Paris, 12:30 pm New York will feature USA1 vs. Netherlands in the Bermuda Bowl|pg||
pc|d3|nt|jbgood: he will|pg||
nt|brolucius: Yes, this 1NT contract is even less interesting than most 1NT contracts. And that is saying something. |pg||
pc|d8|pc|h5|nt|lesniak: or so|pg||
nt|odysseus69: unusual accident with no entry dummy- however assuming a club lead and declare cashed spades West is in some difficulty|pg||
pc|dJ|pg||
pc|c5|pc|c6|nt|dburn: I have no idea. I have been with the Hacketts, so I have only seen the curry houses.|pg||
nt|henryb: After this, it looks like Canada will get back at least 1 imp|pg||
nt|csimon: lol :))|pg||
nt|davpro: Are they happy with them...it seems to me that the best curryhouses ought to be in England?|pg||
nt|Zmud99: We will add one match at 18.30 Paris , 12.30 pn NY : USA 2 vs Italy !!! |pg||
nt|dburn: They are. Unfortunately, they would not let us bring English curry through customs. But the food here is perfectly fine.|pg||
pc|cK|nt|mich-b: Probably Hamman wasnt sure he understands it either|pg||
pc|c7|pg||
pc|d5|pc|dT|nt|brolucius: We can see from the result in the Closed Room, the N-S would have done better to let the opponents stew in their own poor contract. |pg||
nt|csimon: even Liu's choice of playing a @c and not a @h with her only entry at trk 1 was perfect|pg||
nt|brolucius: Unless North can find an inspired pass to the double of 1@S!|pg||
pc|h4|pc|dQ|pg||
pc|c9|pc|cT|nt|gerben42: that is what happened in closed|pg||
pc|hT|nt|hedyg: he had controls in @s, @h and @c and his pd wants to play slam!|pg||
pc|c8|pg||
nt|odysseus69: in 3NT West has to pitch 2 diamonds and a club on the run of the spades - not easy|pg||
pc|dA|pc|s6|nt|swanson: Solid defensive effort by Sweden.|pg||
nt|mcphee: now @H blocked|pg||
pc|cA|pc|s2|pg||
pc|d9|nt|kista: One more by stepping stone|pg||
pc|s8|nt|csimon: well played!|pg||
pc|h3|nt|tsanders: making 4|pg||
pc|s5|pg||
mc|12|pg||
qx|o5|st||md|3SK6HA865D87642CJ9,ST43HT72DKQ3C8754,SQ7HK4DAT95CAKQT3,SAJ9852HQJ93DJC62|sv|n|nt|mrdct: an edge that the computer have over humans is perfect memory for whats gone by and an absence of mechanical errors|pg||
mb|1C|mb|1S|mb|d|nt|sartre: True.  Computers also don't suffer from fatigue, although their operators can.|pg||
mb|2S|mb|4C|mb|p|mb|5C|nt|Walddk2: And they are never criticised by their partner|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|mrdct: do the computer programs draw inferences from opps hesitations?|pg||
mb|p|nt|sartre: 3NT cold on any lead, but the 4C bid makes that impossible.|pg||
pc|dJ|pc|d2|nt|sartre: Computers certainly can draw inferences from their opponents' hesitations, but we're not sure if anyone is actually trying this yet.|pg||
pc|d3|nt|Walddk2: Error in judgement here. 3NT is wash&go, 5@C goes down|pg||
pc|d5|pg||
nt|al9al9: finally...a non par result|pg||
pc|sA|pc|s6|nt|sartre: Blue Chip Bridge does draw such inferences.|pg||
pc|s3|pc|s7|pg||
pc|s2|pc|sK|pc|s4|pc|sQ|pg||
pc|c9|pc|c7|nt|sartre: In the closed room, WBridge5 is in 5D.  Unfortunately, Jack missed a chance to pick up IMPs here in 3NT.|pg||
pc|c3|pc|c6|pg||
nt|mrdct: and i trust they aren't programmed to notice partner's hesitations|pg||
pc|cJ|pc|c4|pc|cK|pc|c2|pg||
pc|cT|pc|h3|nt|sartre: Ethical standards in computer bridge appear to be pretty high, so no inferences from partner's hesitations.|pg||
pc|d4|pc|c5|pg||
pc|cQ|pc|s5|pc|h5|pc|c8|pg||
pc|h4|nt|sartre: Commentary from Estoril now a joint effort from Jack, Blue Chip Bridge, and Bridge Baron.|pg||
pc|hJ|pc|hA|nt|al9al9: still better to be human than a computer|pg||
pc|h2|pg||
pc|d6|pc|dQ|pc|dA|pc|s8|pg||
mc|10|pg||
qx|c5|st||md|3SK6HA865D87642CJ9,ST43HT72DKQ3C8754,SQ7HK4DAT95CAKQT3,SAJ9852HQJ93DJC62|sv|n|nt|yuval10: it's 1:0 Italy after 4 boards|pg||
nt|szalay: they wd be happy with same result in next summer:-)|pg||
nt|scotty: Most play lead-director when vul - but S wants a @s lead.  Maybe he was happy to get club lead and find a shift|pg||
nt|mich-b: would he double with say AKx ?|pg||
nt|hedyg: 1 nt in N|pg||
nt|odysseus69: gping back to 3NT West then has to win 2nd diamond and switch to a heart. He also hd to pitch club 10|pg||
nt|gerben42: and a new leader|pg||
nt|ozdil: ruff with the 7 is better:)|pg||
nt|scotty: Ruffing with @h5 was a blunder, if he did that - E could have had 62 doubleton|pg||
nt|ozdil: he is lucky because E not have only 6 and small trump|pg||
nt|gerben42: possible slam here|pg||
nt|gerben42: 6@C anyone?|pg||
nt|mcphee: soft defence there I think|pg||
nt|desert: a close 4 @H here....diamonds have to be guessed....|pg||
nt|kista: Yes North should not have kept so many @c's|pg||
nt|mcphee: well I think S had to exit @S before a @C|pg||
mb|1C|nt|brolucius: England take a 3-IMP nibble out of the big initial lead.|pg||
nt|jtr: Nice stop Warned by the @h bid|pg||
nt|mich-b: A reasonable 6@D here for NS , on the @H finesse/guess|pg||
mb|2S|nt|roghog: 4 card @d, normal style by NS|pg||
nt|csimon: I am wowed by the accuracy of the Chinese cardplay!|pg||
nt|bjacobs: There's a lot of work to do in 6@C|pg||
mb|d|nt|gerben42: Nunes getting another good hand|pg||
nt|csimon: what a terrific match!  I hope I get to commentate that one (are you listening, Roland?)|pg||
nt|mich-b: but perhaps West will get into the bidding to warn them...|pg||
mb|3S|nt|gerben42: any predictions? flat board?|pg||
nt|mich-b: A very nice hand for Jason here|pg||
nt|henryb: Suspect West will reassure them about the H position|pg||
nt|jallerton: it would be a goog play problem|pg||
nt|jallerton: good|pg||
nt|bjacobs: I guess the players have come in order to work|pg||
nt|gerben42: South Africa in BB made it|pg||
nt|mcphee: while he still retained the @H entry\|pg||
nt|kista: 2Nt jacoby by South|pg||
nt|kista: That's showing fit & 12+|pg||
nt|kista: N likely to bid 3@c to show bal hand|pg||
mb|4D|nt|mich-b: Both South's chose to open 1@S in 3rd seat , for pre-emptive and lead directing value|pg||
nt|Walddk2: http://www.swangames.com/main/Bridgecast/Rama/Estoril_2005/estoril_2005.html  for running scores in all 3 series|pg||
mb|p|nt|odysseus69: I think they will reach 8 now|pg||
nt|mich-b: and even nicer to hear pd open ...|pg||
nt|mich-b: and support your 7 card suit ........|pg||
nt|swanson: 3 IMPs available here by bidding to 7NT.|pg||
nt|mich-b: getting better by the second|pg||
nt|henryb: 3N looks Okay also|pg||
nt|gerben42: also Egyptian ladies|pg||
nt|gerben42: Ladies USA1|pg||
nt|gerben42: and Ladies Japan |pg||
nt|bjacobs: 1@H = 8+ with spades or 12+|pg||
nt|mcphee: they must have some special agreements in place|pg||
mb|5D|nt|szalay: carefull defence beats 3N, but i think small @D lead by North is an option as well|pg||
nt|Walddk4: Good afternoon to David Burn, live from Estoril|pg||
nt|yuval10: West surely happy to open his hand in 4th suit :)|pg||
nt|yuval10: hey David|pg||
nt|eggy: Hi david, how are your charges|pg||
nt|szalay: think South has Ax small in @D instead of A of @H+3card @D (and 2-2 @Ds for declarer)|pg||
nt|szalay: hi david|pg||
nt|yuval10: 4th seat that is|pg||
nt|dburn: Hello|pg||
nt|szalay: wd u lead small or high @D? |pg||
nt|Walddk4: Our operator is the one and only ritong! Henri Schweitzer from France (vugraph141). Welcome to you!|pg||
nt|dinos1: they play 4-cd majors|pg||
nt|lesniak: 2 diamonds - not everybody choice- but tipically to Jassem style|pg||
nt|scotty: I think it's good to have 3@s as a mixed raise here - and that would put a little pressure on E|pg||
nt|mich-b: 3@C presumably = fit for @D + @C values|pg||
nt|dburn: Well, unless for some strange reason the Italians bid a slam, yes. I don't think they will play in a part score.|pg||
nt|odysseus69: ok I'll risk flat|pg||
nt|odysseus69: hi david|pg||
nt|swanson: I don't see Fantoni-Nunes pushing to slam.  The @C cue bid helps the defense with the lead.|pg||
nt|henryb: Hi David|pg||
nt|gerben42: Hi David|pg||
nt|odysseus69: I think David is here|pg||
nt|gerben42: don't know how long I'll be with you been getting disconnections|pg||
nt|dburn: Strictly speaking, wherever "here" is, I am here.|pg||
nt|dburn: But I am actually in Estoril, if that is what you mean :)|pg||
nt|swanson: We can follow your disconnects - Gerben42 turns red.|pg||
nt|henryb: You actually are there, and virtually here|pg||
nt|bjacobs: 3NT interesting on a heart lead|pg||
nt|Walddk2: South in 3NT at the other table|pg||
nt|mich-b: this should end the auction|pg||
nt|csimon: if right-siding was necessary, the Germans have managed to do that, but it doesn't matter here|pg||
mb|p|nt|eggy: You might have thought that Marcelo would have had this bid worked out|pg||
nt|brolucius: Yes, that was in evidence at the Olympiad. People were questioning their bidding then, but now the whole machine seems to be running smoothly. A top-class team in action.|pg||
nt|csimon: that last hand was sheer poetry, even if it was a lowly 1nt contract|pg||
nt|kista: Nunes was cursing himself for not passing 4@s|pg||
nt|gerben42: that's all I see so far|pg||
mb|p|nt|dburn: My charges seem to be involved in a number of close matches|pg||
nt|lesniak: uff|pg||
nt|scotty: well, 3@c may not be an agreement as much as a hope|pg||
nt|lesniak: sure|pg||
nt|mich-b: EW not on the same page here|pg||
nt|hedyg: this is 1 of those hands where you bid 2@c and when pd says no major you wish 3@c wasnt forcing|pg||
mb|p|nt|szalay: dont u think 1N was underbid?|pg||
nt|bjacobs: If declarer holds up the hearts, he's in big trouble|pg||
nt|Walddk2: Not sure why El Ahmadi is checking back (if he is)|pg||
nt|szalay: it was natural, I bet|pg||
nt|cuttysark: Looks natural!|pg||
nt|roghog: Or showing his distribution?|pg||
nt|szalay: does anybody know the meaning of 1N? was it alerted dear operator?|pg||
nt|nickf: looks kind of heavy|pg||
nt|bjacobs: Like Mrs Giggins|pg||
nt|szalay: btw we play here 2way checkback: over 1@S 2@D FG, 2@C is either S/O in @D or invitational|pg||
nt|roghog: Oh, I see she's watching...|pg||
nt|csimon: same in the CR|pg||
nt|henryb: If west could keep quiet, 6D might have been bid|pg||
nt|jtr: Both maximum for their bids|pg||
nt|mich-b: But we cant argue with West's bid , of course|pg||
nt|csimon: I wonder what a 3@h bid would have foisted on Auken?|pg||
nt|henryb: Hard to expect HK in South with strong club opener|pg||
nt|mich-b: The play should be lightning speed here|pg||
nt|bjacobs: 1NT = 11-13|pg||
pc|hQ|nt|hedyg: 1@c is strong|pg||
nt|cuttysark: Usually quite wide-ranging in this sort of acution|pg||
nt|nickf: maybe 2@C is fsf ?|pg||
nt|bjacobs: and 3@H? :)|pg||
nt|bjacobs: 5th suit more forcing?|pg||
nt|cuttysark: Cue agreeing clubs|pg||
nt|nickf: shows a 3424 11 count|pg||
nt|szalay: big @C fit, empty @H...he knows partner has short @H|pg||
nt|Walddk2: Nunes did hold up in hearts, and down he went with @CK as an entry for West|pg||
nt|roghog: ...and a 10 :-)|pg||
nt|frenske: short bidding!!!|pg||
nt|inquiry: shorter play... :-)|pg||
nt|mich-b: The play will be short anyway ...|pg||
nt|odysseus69: they like spectacular jumps - especially Jason- |pg||
nt|mich-b: Win , run the @HJ , and claim 11 ?|pg||
nt|scotty: N took an aggressive position in the other room pushing to game|pg||
nt|desert: declarer didnt guess diamonds succesfully in the OPen Room....so NS have a big chance here.....|pg||
pc|h5|nt|henryb: 4S will make from either side on an endplay against South|pg||
nt|jbgood: wrongsided now the spade contract|pg||
nt|csimon: maybe should look for 7nt - 2 imps is not creamcheese :)|pg||
nt|odysseus69: or bagels|pg||
nt|csimon: or lox!|pg||
nt|csimon: mmm - I'm hungry :)|pg||
nt|stewball: i dont see why frankly|pg||
nt|aap00: now 2@s likely to go 1-2 down --> first imps|pg||
pc|h2|nt|lesniak: what about xx,xx,Qx,ADxxxxx??|pg||
nt|roghog: Same as Paz-Luis in the other room|pg||
nt|timb: He's Meredith's ex-husband and lives in Manila (for tax and other reasons)|pg||
nt|hedyg: and E cannot lead @d on this bidding|pg||
nt|Walddk2: The USA2 and Japan women didn't face any problems on boards 1-4. The score is 0-0!|pg||
nt|hedyg: :)) wd!|pg||
nt|roghog: Just gotta cross your fingers here, Fu :-)|pg||
nt|hedyg: luck KQ@c stiff|pg||
nt|davpro: There are 9 tricks to take...but the defense will force declarer to discard alot of @ds on those @cs|pg||
nt|Zmud99: like Sweden vs Portugal in Venice...0-0 after 4 boards..|pg||
nt|roghog: Spec asks what he's thinking about. "How did we get to this awful game!"|pg||
nt|csimon: wrong-sided the @s contract and that may be fatal!|pg||
nt|henryb: transfer and retransfer|pg||
nt|odysseus69: re-transfer I think|pg||
nt|bjacobs: 2@D = GF relay|pg||
pc|hK|pg||
nt|hedyg: 1@d=0-8|pg||
nt|odysseus69: no I dont|pg||
nt|dburn: Well...|pg||
nt|gerben42: and will now transfer partner to slam?|pg||
nt|jallerton: bad hand for relays, South needed to describe his hand|pg||
nt|gerben42: yes he has magic cards for partner|pg||
nt|bjacobs: One theory is that the player with a shortage has to show it and hand over captaincy|pg||
nt|bjacobs: Then his or her partner can look at the holding opposite the shortage and bid appropriately|pg||
nt|jallerton: That's a good theory|pg||
nt|jack2001: Very well bid by Jack. NS are kept out of 3N|pg||
pc|dA|nt|bjacobs: West's lead into declarer's suit is a trick most top players are aware of|pg||
nt|brolucius: West needed to know whether East held four hearts. Playing Support Doubles would have supplied the answer.|pg||
nt|brolucius: East would double with three hearts and raise directly with four hearts. This then allows West to compete on the basis of Total Trumps.|pg||
nt|sommer: yes, I prefer a X from E on 1@S|pg||
nt|brolucius: Presumably they don't play Support Doubles, or it would be automatic|pg||
nt|kista: some exchange of imps here|pg||
nt|Walddk2: I have been in worse slams, much worse|pg||
nt|Walddk2: 6@C is pretty good|pg||
nt|Walddk2: It's even better than 3NT|pg||
pc|dJ|nt|hedyg: i am told that Fu means good luck in Chinese! what a nice name:))|pg||
nt|cuttysark: Hard to read the blockage!|pg||
nt|nickf: the heart suit is interesting here|pg||
pc|d2|nt|scotty: I have always said (to Zia) these lead directors are dangerous, but he says I lead so badly, he has no choice|pg||
nt|davpro: Either E invented the bid right now or W forgot about it...|pg||
nt|dinos1: :))|pg||
nt|frenske: not vul sometimes its ok when 3@s will win|pg||
nt|mich-b: Maybe that hand is a 3@C opening |pg||
nt|roghog: 9 is the only blocker, so reasonable to hold up 3 rounds|pg||
nt|bjacobs: Seems correct|pg||
nt|cuttysark: Auction cries out for a heart lead, so not clear West has 5|pg||
nt|roghog: Specs think W can't have 10-9, or he'd lead one of them|pg||
nt|szalay: its not true|pg||
nt|szalay: from T9xxx T isnt the suggested lead|pg||
nt|nickf: australia played this in 5@C|pg||
nt|szalay: cause of blockage|pg||
nt|cuttysark: Not when South has 4 hearts|pg||
nt|Walddk2: Our second match today (at 15.00 Paris, 9:00 am New York) will be the first from the Venice Cup (women). China vs. England. Then we will add a bonus match from the Bermuda Bowl: ...|pg||
nt|Walddk2: USA2 vs. New Zealand|pg||
nt|cuttysark: Did they make 5@C?|pg||
nt|nickf: no|pg||
nt|nickf: 1 off on a trump lead from east|pg||
nt|nickf: tough to find 11 winners|pg||
nt|cuttysark: I am told you can make 6@C double dummy! Not sure my source is reliable...|pg||
nt|davpro: or just claim 11 and let us move on :-)|pg||
nt|jtr: seems to be the plan|pg||
pc|d3|pg||
nt|Zmud99: USA2 opened score vs Japan in Venice on board 5...1-0|pg||
nt|henryb: 3H might have gotten double all pass and -1100 on accurate defense|pg||
nt|ozdil: any contract can down one or more tricks..|pg||
nt|jallerton: 3NT is in trouble if @d are 5-3|pg||
nt|Walddk2: South Africa bid and made 6@C against Netherlands|pg||
pc|c3|nt|yuval10: only 8 top tricks here|pg||
nt|vugraph141: hello everybody!00|pg||
nt|eggy: uncomfortable discards for Fantoni however|pg||
nt|yuval10: as i've been told other room played 3NT, making 11 tricks|pg||
nt|Walddk2: That was the end of it, was it not?|pg||
nt|scotty: N also had a chance for a number in the other room by doubling 2S - would be 500|pg||
nt|mcphee: easy to go wrong on the @D|pg||
nt|eggy: Probably will play clubs before making a decision in diamonds|pg||
nt|mcphee: once the A@C is located if becomes harder to play E for both aces|pg||
nt|eggy: and then may play for split Aces|pg||
nt|Vugraph803: D asking V some clarification on 3@h|pg||
nt|kista: Oh the theory of split Aces |pg||
nt|eggy: Of course, it is no statistical guide really|pg||
nt|mcphee: not sure how much faith should be placed on that theory |pg||
nt|eggy: but at least we have a plausible excuse for team mates|pg||
nt|Vugraph803: D thinking|pg||
pc|c2|nt|Walddk2: Another spade, and he is toast|pg||
nt|Walddk2: But looks like the spade lead was killing|pg||
nt|roghog: I'm told Fu means Good Luck in Chinese (Thanks). So heshould expect the @c to be nice...|pg||
nt|cuttysark: They led spade in the other room, but West switched to hearts when he got in|pg||
nt|hedyg: 1@h is 16+|pg||
nt|henryb: 1H 19+ relay|pg||
nt|csimon: dodged the @h leads|pg||
nt|csimon: big swing coming up here|pg||
nt|gerben42: 4NT = even number of KC|pg||
nt|dburn: ...the brakes were on just in time|pg||
nt|odysseus69: I have decided not to explain since it is so obvious!|pg||
nt|mcphee: after declarer discovers E had led from weak @S rather than leading a @D from Q he may well guess correctly|pg||
pc|c9|nt|henryb: Next|pg||
nt|cuttysark: Must win now|pg||
nt|szalay: this is the common problem with 5 of minors: generally no 3 fast losers but isnt 11 tricks |pg||
nt|bjacobs: That's why I open 1@S|pg||
nt|cuttysark: Seems SAfrica made 6@C|pg||
nt|roghog: 5@h was attitude, so Sadek is trying to figure it out |pg||
nt|szalay: after 1st half of RR generally teams from the bottom are making fascinating slams...for them satke is lower:-)|pg||
nt|bjacobs: probably a diamond lead from East would have helped in 6@C|pg||
nt|szalay: stake|pg||
nt|cuttysark: He led a spade|pg||
nt|cuttysark: Egyptian audience are sure Sadek will get this right|pg||
nt|bjacobs: also an assist|pg||
nt|szalay: i like him, but doubt|pg||
nt|bjacobs: Well, it's good that he's considering it|pg||
nt|cuttysark: West was on lead|pg||
nt|nickf: no you cant make 6C on a minor suit lead from East|pg||
nt|nickf: but you can make 5@C|pg||
pc|c4|pg||
nt|mich-b: but I think there are many other hands where East needs to be able to bid @Cs naturally|pg||
pc|cJ|nt|aap00: or even -3: loosing 3@d, 2@c & 3@s|pg||
nt|gerben42: in team you might want to bid 5@C instead of 3NT with this @D holding|pg||
pc|c5|nt|Walddk2: By returning a spade Castanheira will (eventually) set up Pessoa's 4th spade for the setting trick|pg||
pc|cT|nt|szalay: wow...real magican|pg||
pc|c6|pg||
pc|hA|nt|lesniak: Martens working on teorie thay open 2 clubs from 9 count|pg||
pc|h7|nt|scotty: I'm sure E invented it, and on this auction had no safety.  Also, with the @dQ, a diamond lead would be fine most of the time|pg||
nt|scotty: Had to play @sK - tough - to get max|pg||
pc|h4|pc|h3|pg||
nt|vugraph141: sorry|pg||
nt|yuval10: the lead was @d5|pg||
nt|vugraph141: fulvio tanking anyhow|pg||
nt|yuval10: on the other room, that is|pg||
nt|Walddk4: http://www.swangames.com/main/Bridgecast/Rama/Estoril_2005/estoril_2005.html  for running scores in all 3 series|pg||
nt|mcphee: wow|pg||
pc|d4|nt|szalay: i doubt he ditches 2 @Ds...otherwise they take5|pg||
nt|csimon: nice defense|pg||
nt|aap00: back to -2 |pg||
pc|dQ|nt|cuttysark: Very well done|pg||
nt|szalay: i think Mr. Moubarak seat is in danger...Sadek for President!:-)|pg||
nt|cuttysark: Now he needs to finesse diamond rather than spade...|pg||
pc|d5|nt|jallerton: Definitely, Gerben|pg||
nt|Walddk2: Argentina 2-0 up now. Penalty (Crespo), should not have been given of course|pg||
pc|s2|pg||
nt|csimon: trump lead was essential for maximum set|pg||
nt|kista: very risky underlead|pg||
nt|eggy: although of course, El Kourdy's lead may have been the most neutral|pg||
pc|s4|nt|henryb: could be|pg||
pc|s7|nt|bjacobs: He can try them both|pg||
pc|sA|nt|szalay: 11 rather random Italian IMPs|pg||
nt|vugraph141: sorry again..|pg||
pc|s6|pg||
pc|hJ|nt|frenske: why not X on 2@s|pg||
nt|hedyg: you can find the players CCs on: http://www.ecatsbridge.org/Events/wbf/2005estoril/default.asp|pg||
pc|h6|nt|stewball: altho i'm not surprised Moss opened the bidding in the Open Room..2.5 honour tricks goes back to Culbertsons day|pg||
nt|scotty: Opening was good - if he doubled 2@s|pg||
nt|Vugraph803: the moment of truth|pg||
nt|eggy: Perhaps if he plays rubber bridge, he would play El Khourdy for being a good card holder|pg||
nt|Vugraph803: C thinking|pg||
nt|kista: If Sunit figured that E has underled the @s J he is likely to guess right|pg||
nt|eggy: EAst-West fidgetting?|pg||
nt|desert: can he guess that?!|pg||
pc|hT|nt|cuttysark: Declarer is happy now, play goes fast|pg||
nt|szalay: btw he gotta play right finesse yet|pg||
nt|szalay: but with this blockage he has time for @S first|pg||
nt|kista: He should because Dagher would have thrown the @sj instead of the !2|pg||
pc|dT|pg||
nt|kista: well done|pg||
nt|mcphee: very good|pg||
pc|cA|pc|s5|nt|szalay: only losing line now is @S hook, @D pitch for @H|pg||
nt|bjacobs: Or he could even endplay East, if he trusts what's happened in hearts|pg||
nt|tsanders: alll that remains now is a defensive @s ruff|pg||
pc|d6|nt|dinos1: X wd show @h|pg||
nt|bjacobs: bingo!|pg||
nt|cuttysark: Spectatos point out the stylish endplay, exit with low heart.|pg||
nt|cuttysark: Goodness me!!!!|pg||
nt|szalay: fascinating, really..best dummy play in Estoril I've seen so far|pg||
nt|cuttysark: Should he not cash @DK first?|pg||
nt|szalay: doesnt matter: he has @S entry to dummy|pg||
pc|c7|pg||
pc|h8|nt|brolucius: I managed to find a Smith-Dhondy convention card (from the 2004 Olympiad) and it says they do NOT play Support Doubles. Surprising.|pg||
pc|s3|pc|d9|nt|Zmud99: in open room they still playing board 5|pg||
pc|h9|pg||
pc|cK|pc|s8|pc|d7|pc|c8|pg||
pc|d8|pc|dK|nt|Walddk2: Pretty!|pg||
pc|cQ|pc|s9|pg||
pc|sT|pc|sQ|pc|sJ|pc|sK|pg||
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qx|o6|st||md|4SJT754HA42DQ54C93,SAQ8HK6DAJT96CK84,S632HQ853DK872C65,SK9HJT97D3CAQJT72|sv|e|nt|sartre: Another push -- still the only score is an overtrick IMP by WB5 on deal 2.|pg||
mb|1C|nt|sartre: Could be a chance to pick up IMPs here.  6C looks pretty good with the HA onside.|pg||
mb|p|nt|mrdct: slam chance here|pg||
mb|2D|nt|Walddk2: On a heart guess|pg||
mb|p|nt|mrdct: need to get @h right|pg||
mb|2H|nt|Walddk2: Maybe Jack South will underlead his @HA|pg||
mb|p|mb|3N|nt|mrdct: that would be a clever move|pg||
mb|p|mb|5C|mb|p|nt|sartre: WB5 takes out 3NT.|pg||
nt|sartre: WB5 uses simulations here to find the best contract based on what it knows.|pg||
nt|Walddk2: West has a raise now I think|pg||
mb|6C|nt|mrdct: west has enough to bid 6|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|sartre: WB5 finds it.  Will he guess correctly in hearts?|pg||
mb|p|pc|sJ|pc|s8|pc|s6|nt|Walddk2: A normal lead on the auction|pg||
pc|sK|pg||
pc|cQ|nt|mrdct: may choose to play the leader to not hold an ace as he didn't lead it|pg||
pc|c3|nt|Walddk2: If you find a low heart, you need to have peeked|pg||
pc|c4|pc|c5|pg||
nt|sartre: Jack bids 6C in the closed room as well and gets the HA lead to end the suspense.|pg||
pc|cA|pc|c9|pc|c8|pc|c6|pg||
pc|s9|nt|sartre: WB5 needs to make the contract to earn another push.|pg||
nt|mrdct: although A in rho wouldn't be an indicated lead|pg||
pc|s4|pc|sA|pc|s2|pg||
pc|sQ|pc|s3|pc|h7|nt|mrdct: rho's 2nd suit i meant to say|pg||
pc|s5|pg||
pc|dA|pc|d2|pc|d3|pc|d4|pg||
pc|d6|pc|dK|pc|cJ|pc|d5|pg||
pc|hJ|nt|Walddk2: Jack South will play low smoothly when the jack is advanced (I hope)|pg||
nt|Walddk2: or not?|pg||
pc|hA|pc|h6|nt|sartre: Ah, Jack goes up with the Ace.|pg||
pc|h3|pg||
nt|sartre: Little danger in ducking.|pg||
nt|al9al9: computer defense is weak|pg||
mc|12|pg||
qx|c6|st||md|4SJT754HA42DQ54C93,SAQ8HK6DAJT96CK84,S632HQ853DK872C65,SK9HJT97D3CAQJT72|sv|e|nt|Zmud99: we will update scores asap|pg||
nt|scotty: Well, X might suggest 5-card @h|pg||
nt|dinos1: 4+   :)|pg||
nt|frenske: good 4|pg||
nt|timb: the australian women bid to 6@H here - failing for a 13 imp loss when South led @DA|pg||
nt|cuttysark: Lots of tricks for slam|pg||
nt|Zmud99: it seems that a revoke occured by the italians here|pg||
nt|hedyg: oh!|pg||
nt|Zmud99: thats explain +450|pg||
nt|hedyg: sry all 1@h was relay over 1@d|pg||
nt|roghog: No wonder these two have played throughout! What a joy this vugraph is :-)|pg||
nt|szalay: it was better play w/o K of @D: has countermeasure against crocodile T of @H|pg||
nt|cuttysark: That got the audience excited!|pg||
nt|odysseus69: maybe worried about time penalties if they dont finish first|pg||
nt|stewball: so first blood to Italy|pg||
nt|scotty: Last time I commentated on USA2 they lost about 80-0 - hope they do better this time!|pg||
nt|ozdil: This hand can be blody if E open 1 NT and EW go to 4 SP...|pg||
nt|kista: I concur. passing with both Majors will make the auction more difficult|pg||
nt|scotty: W should invite only facing 14-16|pg||
nt|scotty: N will pray for acceptance|pg||
nt|Walddk2: And now 3-0, another penalty!|pg||
nt|bjacobs: This is getting embarrassing for Sweden|pg||
mb|1C|nt|Walddk2: EW may not get room to investigate|pg||
nt|cuttysark: One tiny flaw|pg||
nt|timb: except if @DA wins the first trick :(|pg||
nt|Walddk2: 5@D now, and it's guessing from there|pg||
nt|hedyg: 5 losers|pg||
nt|gerben42: knowing EW they will get involved a lot here|pg||
nt|cuttysark: You can see why Eqypt are doing well|pg||
nt|Walddk4: http://www.ecatsbridge.com/Events/wbf/2005estoril/default.asp  for system cards|pg||
nt|csimon: W can't bid too many @ss at this vul|pg||
nt|Walddk4: http://www.swangames.com/main/Bridgecast/Rama/Estoril_2005/estoril_2005.html  for running scores in all 3 series|pg||
nt|odysseus69: 1 spade from West|pg||
nt|mich-b: EW are playing weak 1NT , so 1@D it is|pg||
nt|jtr: nothing much to this hand either|pg||
nt|henryb: Is that really a strong NT??|pg||
nt|aap00: what about S?|pg||
mb|p|nt|scotty: There are 4 losers in 4@s, but eventually, declarer will pitch a red loser on the 4th club|pg||
nt|bjacobs: The Abbott (sitting East) would snap: "routine"|pg||
nt|mich-b: though , really, maybe the East hand is a weak NT?|pg||
mb|1D|nt|odysseus69: exciting - a bad but makeable slam|pg||
nt|brolucius: Thanks, Roland. That says the same, although the card has been updated in July 2005.|pg||
nt|csimon: 6@h is makeable, but not biddable it appears|pg||
nt|tsanders: I think S fudged on the nt opener because she didn't wish to open 1@d|pg||
nt|kista: If S had @h  KQxxx instead of @c game would have been cold|pg||
nt|scotty: S swould double, if Zia - maybe even 31s!|pg||
nt|scotty: 3@s|pg||
nt|bjacobs: At least there's a genuine bidding battle on this hand|pg||
nt|gerben42: fire the coach I|pg||
nt|gerben42: I'd say|pg||
nt|mcphee: not an easy 4@S|pg||
mb|p|nt|yuval10: 1@h from Fantoni |pg||
nt|Walddk2: Agree Roger. What a treat to be able to watch this live all over the world|pg||
nt|tsanders: that is if their range is 14-16|pg||
nt|brolucius: Heather Bakhshi tells me that Heather Dhondy plays Support Doubles with her and likes them. So perhaps it is Nicola who does not like the method. |pg||
nt|mich-b: NS would really like to get a plus score sooner or later|pg||
nt|jtr: ah they might get too high in @ss now|pg||
mb|1H|nt|szalay: partscore hand: e-w could make 3 of Red, n-s 3 of Black|pg||
nt|hedyg: 2@d=@h|pg||
nt|henryb: 2D is stronger way to raise to 2H|pg||
nt|gerben42: gutsy 4@S from Lauria in this situation|pg||
nt|eggy: To bid or make?|pg||
nt|kista: but the cards are well placed|pg||
mb|p|nt|beto: 1@H shows @S|pg||
nt|eggy: 0-11|pg||
nt|mich-b: Are there any players today for whom the South hand isn't an opening?|pg||
nt|davpro: Sweden are having a good day against Chinese Taipei (BB): 35-0 after 5 boards|pg||
nt|hedyg: claim?|pg||
nt|gerben42: theory of 5 + 5 = 10|pg||
nt|kista: 3@S pass 4@s|pg||
nt|mcphee: yes the @H cards should tip the scale to bid game along with the 5-4 shape|pg||
mb|1S|nt|szalay: what was X?|pg||
nt|eggy: hearts?|pg||
nt|beto: @H overcall|pg||
nt|beto: 1@S would be takeout|pg||
nt|eggy: does Marcelo know?|pg||
nt|szalay: i wd bid some real 2suiter reds if could (say: 2@C or 1N by passed hand)|pg||
nt|beto: yes|pg||
nt|beto: 1nt would be 4@H +@D by a passed hand|pg||
nt|beto: 5+@D|pg||
nt|szalay: my preference is: X T/O for @S, and 1@S: natural here|pg||
nt|timb: flat |pg||
nt|Walddk2: Were N-S too passive?|pg||
nt|csimon: 2@d is a constructive @h raise as opposed to 2@h which would be garbage|pg||
nt|bjacobs: If only East had had both queens in spades and diamonds|pg||
nt|brolucius: The convention card also says that 'high-level doubles are for penalties', which may explain the double of 4@D earlier. |pg||
nt|jtr: can guess @s i suppose|pg||
nt|Vugraph803: different aprroch from open room|pg||
nt|mcphee: Dagher not even inviting|pg||
nt|Vugraph803: approach|pg||
nt|desert: bidding 4 @S is not too difficult i think.....but the play isnt easy especially after a club lead|pg||
mb|p|nt|roghog: At this Vul, surely worth a bid...|pg||
nt|swanson: Gutsy = please double me for your 800.|pg||
nt|tsanders: Does support Doubles even apply in that sequence?|pg||
nt|davpro: yes|pg||
nt|scotty: I guess another transfer|pg||
mb|1N|nt|odysseus69: gutsy diamond lead better|pg||
nt|roghog: Lauria too strong just to bid @d first time|pg||
nt|odysseus69: canape - is part of system|pg||
nt|mich-b: a "cheating by a point" 1NT overcall ?|pg||
nt|gerben42: not if they preempt with 1NT|pg||
mb|p|nt|gerben42: why would he lead that?|pg||
nt|dburn: Some chance for Sweden, I guess - but I don't see how he can know to lead a diamond|pg||
nt|tsanders: probably does with most partnerships|pg||
nt|brolucius: No reason not to apply, really.|pg||
nt|csimon: you mean I can't even add John?|pg||
nt|odysseus69: sometimes pd fishes out minor lead but not with Q10x|pg||
nt|swanson: One would like to have gotten his long suit bid before the opponents bid 3NT.|pg||
nt|frenske: probably first points to japan|pg||
nt|mich-b: Would any of us use Stayman with the south hand ?|pg||
mb|4N|nt|scotty: If W leads a @d, declarer will make an overtrick|pg||
nt|dinos1: I wd pass :))|pg||
nt|swanson: How can your opponents get to the poor 3NT contract unless you leave them room?|pg||
nt|jtr: worth 2½ @s really|pg||
nt|davpro: this looks makeable...2me |pg||
nt|davpro: or is there a uppercut in @h?|pg||
nt|jtr: probably cant do it now anyway|pg||
nt|mich-b: Maybe 2@S would have been enough NV|pg||
nt|henryb: In the old old days, before point count, the East hand was not an opening bid|pg||
nt|mich-b: Vul, one wouldn't want to be missing a possible game |pg||
nt|jallerton: 1NT is 14-16|pg||
nt|bjacobs: Yes, not much of a battle ... West was strangely quiet|pg||
nt|gerben42: Sweden opened in both rooms and bought it |pg||
nt|kista: good lead|pg||
nt|jack2001: 6C depends on the heart decision|pg||
mb|p|nt|scotty: In the other room, W led a trump|pg||
nt|mich-b: The Polish player in the closed room passed it|pg||
nt|frenske: no fillers so i prefer to pass|pg||
nt|odysseus69: even on D lead declarer just needs to find C queen|pg||
nt|jallerton: I'm surprised West didn't protect with a double|pg||
nt|gerben42: well Madala's hand is not an obvious opening bid for most|pg||
mb|5C|nt|beto: 3@S made 9 tricks in the other room|pg||
nt|csimon: making 6 - NEXT :)))  Joey is not here|pg||
mb|p|nt|dinos1: now @d shift beats|pg||
nt|Walddk3: 2@SX in the other room|pg||
nt|stewball: Hampson cant get his foot off the accelerator,,,,|pg||
nt|aap00: off the hook |pg||
mb|6C|nt|mich-b: no, he will discard the @H on the @C later|pg||
nt|scotty: Hampson was unlimited, so Fantoni did not consider doubling|pg||
nt|jack2001: 5c shows 1 keycard|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|mich-b: lose @D, @S , @C|pg||
nt|Walddk4: He is playing|pg||
nt|Walddk4: Against Sweden right now|pg||
mb|p|nt|gerben42: well if partner cannot find the lead better not give them room to find the contract|pg||
nt|dburn: and this is a somewhat fortunate board for Fantoni and Nunes|pg||
nt|ozdil: Greco hope KX or KXX spade south:)|pg||
pc|hA|nt|dinos1: y - has discard|pg||
nt|jtr: @s to the 8 is ok but no entry for the @h trick|pg||
nt|Walddk3: And 2@S can't be defeated|pg||
nt|kista: Yes now I am sure he wants to Dbl|pg||
nt|aap00: oops|pg||
pc|h6|nt|beto: so brazil will win 5 imps here|pg||
nt|cuttysark: This is a bit of a let down - flat board|pg||
nt|mich-b: if he guesses the @D , trick 1 , that is ...|pg||
nt|scotty: Diamonds are favorable - but only helps if N fails to split|pg||
nt|scotty: Feels like 3 down|pg||
nt|scotty: While 3@s probably only one down|pg||
nt|mcphee: 4@S directly was pushy|pg||
pc|h5|nt|henryb: I admire your alarm clock|pg||
nt|gerben42: impossible to lead a @D |pg||
nt|bjacobs: I'm not TOO surprised that West passed it out, thinking about it... he's vulnerable against a strong NT and with a passed partner|pg||
pc|h7|pg||
nt|jtr: ah can make again|pg||
nt|kista: Greco's 1NT a little underweight|pg||
nt|scotty: In the other room, N finally got around to doubling 2@s - one board too late|pg||
nt|ozdil: only play take ace spade and run heart or may diamond..|pg||
nt|eggy: Probably must leave the 3rd round of trumps|pg||
pc|d4|nt|scotty: I might open a WNT with S - but I think pass is accurate with all those queens|pg||
nt|jtr: We will see a few more swings here i think|pg||
nt|davpro: Sooner or later she will have to play trumps...|pg||
nt|gerben42: but in Sweden it is the weak variation of 2-way @C|pg||
nt|Walddk2: Zlatan Ibrahimovic strikes for the first time in the match. He scored 6 goals inside 10 minutes, and we have a new leader|pg||
nt|bjacobs: Such names!|pg||
nt|desert: yes. But east would accept an invitation|pg||
pc|dA|nt|Walddk2: http://www.ecatsbridge.com/Events/wbf/2005estoril/default.asp  for system cards|pg||
nt|Walddk2: http://www.swangames.com/main/Bridgecast/Rama/Estoril_2005/estoril_2005.html  for running scores in all 3 series|pg||
pc|d7|nt|szalay: u needed it:-)|pg||
nt|eggy: doesn't seem to be any thing in the play|pg||
nt|beto: yes :)|pg||
nt|beto: yes, mirror hands|pg||
nt|beto: nothing to be done, except ruff and sluff by defence|pg||
nt|vugraph141: sorry for the small corrections, guys, shud be OK now|pg||
nt|vugraph141: i do not understand everything, but i hear claudio talkin about "carta bella2...|pg||
nt|odysseus69: it sounds like they have at least 9 fast tricks - and a spade stop|pg||
nt|odysseus69: if West bids 1 d - south, if anyone plays NT|pg||
nt|odysseus69: 8 suit pref for diamonds|pg||
nt|csimon: I would Stayman for the purpose of inviting - I'm not as aggressive as these players - which is why I'm sitting at home commentating|pg||
nt|odysseus69: only 8 tricks either way|pg||
nt|swanson: It is tough for declarer to know he had 4 tricks available in hearts.  On the other hand, he sort of needed 4 heart tricks.|pg||
nt|mich-b: Why didn't declarer cash the @H A ?|pg||
nt|mich-b: when he lost a @H , the defense has 5 tricks , no ?|pg||
nt|frenske: luckly i sayed PROBABLY first points to Japan :-)|pg||
nt|odysseus69: looks like he decided that West had false carded with KQ of spades|pg||
nt|jtr: DR has pointed out an endplay|pg||
pc|d3|pg||
pc|c4|nt|desert: i agree with steve|pg||
pc|c6|nt|kista: Yes Now defence should give ruff and sluff|pg||
pc|cJ|nt|gerben42: that might favour a @H|pg||
nt|jtr: that makes against KJ9@s even|pg||
nt|glen2: @H8 will be nice to see|pg||
nt|mcphee: can't afford to leave the last trump |pg||
pc|c9|pg||
pc|c2|nt|gerben42: and not a @D|pg||
pc|c3|nt|Walddk2: Larsson will add a 7th in a minute|pg||
pc|c8|nt|mich-b: still only 8 tricks|pg||
pc|c5|pg||
nt|hedyg: push board|pg||
nt|jtr: ruff @ds mand exit with a @h|pg||
nt|kista: The choice of the opening bid on these hands can vary the end result significantly|pg||
nt|jack2001: Bad lead by WBridge, will make easily now|pg||
pc|d6|nt|Walddk2: Sorry, Ljungberg it is|pg||
pc|d2|nt|odysseus69: yes either red suit|pg||
nt|mcphee: good play|pg||
pc|c7|nt|csimon: I see how they made just 5 - went after @ds and not @cs|pg||
pc|d5|pg||
nt|swanson: I think it is possible (but not likely).  South has shown that he can afford a spade lead.|pg||
pc|h9|nt|mich-b: Jason will not discard the @DA|pg||
pc|h4|nt|swanson: On the bidding, it is still possible East holds the @DA.|pg||
pc|hK|nt|jtr: needed that|pg||
nt|csimon: wd!  Sabine is a fantastic declarer|pg||
nt|jtr: But Kraft a fantastic defender|pg||
nt|dburn: She will have to be, to make the contract from here|pg||
nt|henryb: W must ruff this to establidh S6 as extra defensive trick|pg||
nt|jtr: Auken gets pipped by Kraft:-)|pg||
nt|csimon: doesn't the endplay still apply if Sabine overruffs, squashes the trump 7 and exits a @h?|pg||
nt|jtr: nope|pg||
nt|davpro: no|pg||
nt|dburn: As they almost say in Sabine's language, Freude durch Kraft|pg||
nt|csimon: no|pg||
nt|jtr: @s6 gets promoted with @h|pg||
nt|csimon: I see|pg||
pc|h3|pg||
nt|eggy: He's OK now , but if they'd played clubs immediately, I think he was down|pg||
pc|s8|nt|Walddk2: Sabine's language is Danish now, and we certainly don't say that|pg||
nt|jtr: @h lets it make now though|pg||
nt|jtr: endplay still there|pg||
nt|jtr: sorry other way|pg||
nt|jtr: @h beats it|pg||
nt|jtr: apologies|pg||
nt|davpro: np David. I make 521512 mistakes a session|pg||
nt|Walddk2: 2 too many|pg||
nt|davpro: :-(|pg||
nt|jtr: lol I have literally had 100 messages during this hand|pg||
nt|henryb: On a heart East must not overruff. Knows about S7 because declarer did not overruff S9|pg||
nt|jtr: 99 from Michael Rosenberg who has just finished a typing speed class:-)|pg||
nt|csimon: whatever Michael says I believe - he is far and away the best and fastest analyst this side of the 'pond' ;))|pg||
nt|csimon: and probably the other side of the pond too!|pg||
nt|henryb: Roland, do the Aukens speak Danish or German at home?|pg||
nt|Walddk2: Danish|pg||
nt|jtr: It wasnt so bad when he couldnt type:-)|pg||
nt|davpro: :)|pg||
nt|eggy: Wtch out for the hand of God Roland|pg||
pc|s2|pc|sK|nt|swanson: Barely.|pg||
pc|s4|pg||
pc|s9|pc|s5|pc|sQ|nt|mich-b: Well donr by Gordon!|pg||
nt|henryb: Well done E-W|pg||
pc|s3|pg||
nt|ozdil: after the Q diamond N can cash K spade is better...|pg||
pc|d9|pc|d8|nt|brolucius: Well, this is not what England supporters (such as myself) were looking for. 25-4? Perhaps the next board will bring us some sunshine.|pg||
nt|mich-b: I think North had a reasonable t/o Dbl of 1@S|pg||
pc|cT|pc|dQ|pg||
pc|hT|pc|h2|pc|cK|pc|h8|pg||
mc|12|pg||
qx|o7|st||md|1S8432HJ86DJ972CK9,ST9HAT9DAQ65CAJ74,SA765HK752D43C863,SKQJHQ43DKT8CQT52|sv|b|nt|mrdct: defence is hard|pg||
nt|al9al9: computers assume that declarer knows its (the defender) hand|pg||
nt|sartre: Computers depend heavily on massive simulations of double-dummy possibilities.  This can work very well, but it can cause you to overestimate your opponent.|pg||
nt|Walddk2: we need a couple of undos I think|pg||
nt|sartre: Operator error?|pg||
mb|p|mb|1N|nt|Walddk2: Yes|pg||
mb|p|nt|sartre: Here we are then.|pg||
mb|3N|nt|Walddk2: Our live vugraph broadcast from the World Championships in Estoril, Portugal, will restart in about 1 hour and 15 minutes. Quarter-Finals, segment 1 of 6: USA 1 vs. USA2 (Venice ...|pg||
nt|Walddk2: Cup)|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|mrdct: a psyche?|pg||
nt|sartre: WB5 earns another push.  Still 1 to 0 on the first six deals -- unusual for computer bridge.|pg||
mb|p|nt|Walddk2: Are they capable of pscyching, by the way?|pg||
pc|s6|nt|mrdct: do the computers psyche?|pg||
pc|sJ|nt|Walddk2: psyching even|pg||
pc|s8|pc|sT|pg||
pc|c2|nt|sartre: Computers are certainly capable of psyching.|pg||
pc|c9|pc|cJ|nt|al9al9: computers never psych...|pg||
pc|c3|pg||
pc|d6|pc|d3|nt|al9al9: of course they could be programmed...that may be next|pg||
pc|dK|pc|d2|pg||
pc|cQ|pc|cK|pc|cA|pc|c6|pg||
pc|c4|nt|sartre: Fairly standard 3NT in both rooms here.|pg||
pc|c8|pc|cT|pc|s2|pg||
pc|c5|pc|s3|pc|c7|nt|Walddk2: At least we won't get any bathroom breaks|pg||
pc|s5|pg||
nt|Walddk2: :-)|pg||
pc|dA|pc|d4|pc|d8|pc|d7|pg||
pc|s9|pc|sA|pc|sQ|pc|s4|pg||
nt|mrdct: become an interesting disclosure issue as the sorts of circumstances in which they are programmed to psyche would need to be disclosed (not that humans ever disclose that properly)|pg||
pc|s7|pc|sK|pc|h6|pc|hT|pg||
pc|dT|pc|dJ|pc|dQ|pc|h2|pg||
pc|hA|pc|h5|pc|h3|pc|h8|pg||
pc|h9|pc|h7|pc|hQ|pc|hJ|pg||
pc|h4|pc|d9|pc|d5|pc|hK|pg||
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qx|c7|st||md|1S8432HJ86DJ972CK9,ST9HAT9DAQ65CAJ74,SA765HK752D43C863,SKQJHQ43DKT8CQT52|sv|b|nt|mich-b: sometimes though you might get to steal the hand from them opening 1@S NV Vs Vul|pg||
nt|scotty: and 1N even more so!|pg||
nt|lesniak: why south hand must open????|pg||
nt|mich-b: true|pg||
nt|hedyg: if anybody then maybe S could have bid 5@d|pg||
nt|swanson: A red suit lead fares poorly when declarer has something line K10x(x) of spades and partner holds the @CA.|pg||
nt|nickf: 4S can make here if you get either trumps or diamonds right|pg||
nt|mich-b: it looks a nice alternative to the 1NT (slight) overbid|pg||
nt|swanson: The aggressive bidding was not backed up by the necessary aggressive play.|pg||
nt|henryb: Tied match|pg||
nt|jtr: Well, that is the best value we will get out of a part-score|pg||
nt|scotty: So the double of 2@s did not cost THAT much - they were going to lose 7 imps ANYWAY |pg||
nt|kista: A HUGE swing for Italy|pg||
nt|gerben42: not falling for that one again Steve|pg||
nt|Walddk2: I know Steve, is Maradona on the bench in this match?|pg||
nt|mcphee: now there is a @D suit that rates to run|pg||
mb|p|nt|jtr: I think if it is partnership style to X with von Arnim's hand 2@s is enough|pg||
nt|desert: the defense should have ducked the first heart.....|pg||
nt|glen2: like board 1, one side has the red suits|pg||
nt|mcphee: 3N?|pg||
mb|1N|nt|eggy: Is it a commercial Henri?|pg||
nt|szalay: Brazil made 3N here|pg||
nt|vugraph141: i dunno lol|pg||
nt|beto: 3n made looks good|pg||
nt|eggy: muito|pg||
nt|beto: :)|pg||
nt|vugraph141: think he was talkin about his previous rockcrusher|pg||
nt|henryb: Another part score battle|pg||
nt|cuttysark: Looks like East was having a bad guess day|pg||
nt|brolucius: There are possible ruffs against major-suit contracts. Could be some action.|pg||
nt|stewball: still inexplicable|pg||
mb|p|nt|scotty: no reason - I think he should pass|pg||
nt|mich-b: This board ?  he will not open now :)|pg||
nt|csimon: how about some slam hands to wake me up!|pg||
nt|tsanders: strong NTs in the UK? surprised!|pg||
nt|csimon: I agree with you David - was wondering if 2@s meant something else when she didn't do that|pg||
mb|3N|nt|mich-b: probably a quiet 4@S here |pg||
nt|gerben42: 1@C weak variation|pg||
nt|bjacobs: Yes, essentially a weak NT|pg||
nt|eggy: In charge of the medical kit nowadays|pg||
nt|gerben42: 0.5 NT opener|pg||
nt|eggy: with 8?|pg||
nt|mcphee: sure|pg||
nt|glen2: once @S are bid and supported, no 3NT|pg||
mb|p|nt|Walddk2: Well David, Sweden are doing great against Chinese Taipei (35-0 after 5 boards), so don't give up all hope just yet|pg||
nt|henryb: N-S make 2S, E-W 3D|pg||
nt|odysseus69: the bidding very strongly suggests a running club suit|pg||
nt|roghog: More guesses. Fascinating set|pg||
nt|brolucius: Yes, most of the top players use them now.|pg||
nt|mich-b: so time for all of you to go for coffee|pg||
nt|mich-b: Somewhat lucky 4@S here for NS , with the favourable @C position|pg||
nt|henryb: :ooks to me as though E-W can make 5H with the favorable lie of cards|pg||
nt|mcphee: do not like this neg dble, unless playing negative free bids|pg||
nt|Vugraph803: again diff app|pg||
nt|mcphee: this seems like a clear 2@H bid to me|pg||
nt|desert: yes|pg||
nt|eggy: As EW play Texas, 3NT wouldn't have promised a solid suit|pg||
nt|Vugraph803: D thinking|pg||
nt|mcphee: seems to make 4@S after a @H lead N would have to play for a squeeze|pg||
nt|kista: 5@d was not doubled in the open|pg||
nt|eggy: I expect it will be here, by either opponent|pg||
nt|mcphee: I suspect 4@S will fail with @H lead|pg||
mb|p|nt|hedyg: lol|pg||
nt|henryb: 2H that is|pg||
nt|Walddk4: Tomorrow: 11:00 Paris, 5:00 am New York: Egypt vs. Italy (BB)|pg||
nt|szalay: likely @D lead, I think|pg||
nt|mich-b: or not??|pg||
nt|henryb: Tough to find, though|pg||
nt|jallerton: The South hand is awkward in traditional methods....|pg||
nt|kista: Yes agree |pg||
nt|mcphee: N would have to discard on second @D to set up a squeeze|pg||
nt|mcphee: we will never know|pg||
nt|mcphee: N must dble here|pg||
nt|Vugraph803: bidding still in the other side of the curtain|pg||
nt|mcphee: surely there is little hope for game at the 5 level facing a passed ahnd|pg||
nt|eggy: You would have thought so, but surely South will if it's let round|pg||
mb|p|nt|lesniak: im sure|pg||
nt|mich-b: 2@H = @S fit |pg||
pc|h2|nt|cuttysark: The nonItalian European teams appear to be struggling, but it is early days|pg||
nt|hedyg: a double coming from E?|pg||
nt|hedyg: yessssssssssss|pg||
nt|henryb: Here is where Precision players pay for the nebulous 1D opener|pg||
nt|Walddk4: 15.00 Paris, 9:00 am New York: China vs. England (VC)  our first match from the women's series|pg||
nt|brolucius: Also some moderate performers, such as myself...|pg||
pc|h3|nt|scotty: This hand may be more interesting than it looks|pg||
nt|mcphee: not so clear to me S should dble if N passes|pg||
nt|eggy: Oh my God!|pg||
pc|hJ|nt|davpro: yes Roland...not yet...|pg||
nt|jtr: if you tap the dummy?|pg||
nt|mich-b: 4@D = splinter|pg||
nt|jtr: in 51h|pg||
nt|scotty: 2N is 19-21 in theory|pg||
nt|jallerton: Dbl normally has 4@h|pg||
nt|bjacobs: On a low spade lead, declarer has an interesting play|pg||
nt|gerben42: yes @SJ95 is a bit shaky stop to respond 1NT |pg||
nt|Walddk2: Our second match today will be the one between USA2 (Fred) and Brazil (Bermuda Bowl). At 15.00 Paris, 4:00 pm London, 9:00 am New York|pg||
nt|mcphee: 5@H???|pg||
pc|hA|pg||
nt|swanson: Assuming 2@H shows hearts and a minor, I like 2NT here to be forcing by West and 3@C pass or correct.|pg||
nt|Walddk4: 18.30 Paris, 12:30 pm NY: Japan vs. England (BB)|pg||
nt|szalay: so bad news for Egypt|pg||
nt|cuttysark: They go down a lot in the other room!|pg||
nt|bjacobs: South stayed off the diamond lead in the other room, and declarer eventually misguessed the diamonds|pg||
nt|bjacobs: That misguess is normal ... thinking "South didn't lead diamonds, so maybe he has the ace"|pg||
nt|jtr: 5@h|pg||
nt|jtr: should guess the @c ok|pg||
nt|jallerton: Perhaps he should get the @s right if E/W play Rosenkranz redoubles|pg||
nt|eggy: we're seeing a lot of Fred .. have they stopped doubling him?|pg||
nt|gerben42: in the running score 4 teams on equal number of VP at ranks 2 to 5, rest not far behind|pg||
nt|Walddk2: We crash every time they do|pg||
nt|jallerton: anyway, East has led a heart|pg||
nt|Walddk2: I should have said 2 pm London of course, sorry|pg||
pc|d5|nt|Walddk2: Our other 2 matches today will feature Italy vs. USA2, seniors (15.00 Paris, 9 am New York) and Italy vs. Sweden, BB (18.30 Paris, 12:30 pm New York)   |pg||
nt|dburn: This is a somewhat remarkable result for Italy in the closed room|pg||
nt|swanson: Obviously they are using Dbl as takeout.|pg||
nt|cuttysark: I find Q10xx never works for me either - go Sadek|pg||
nt|bjacobs: Liz, you have Q10x and Q10xxx ... which one works better for you?|pg||
nt|cuttysark: No statistical evidence, feels like Q10x|pg||
nt|roghog: Nunes led a @h|pg||
nt|bjacobs: Anyone care to speculate why Sadek made that lead?|pg||
nt|tsanders: the weak still using the weak variety?|pg||
nt|mich-b: well, 3NT is not too difficult either|pg||
nt|odysseus69: pass is OK but could look stupid|pg||
pc|d4|nt|yuval10: 3NT = is very good for brazil, contract can be set|pg||
nt|beto: hard to set now, marcelo will need to cash his @DQ when in with the @CQ|pg||
nt|eggy: tricky for the defence to unblock the diamonds though|pg||
nt|eggy: especially if Fantoni rises withe the @DQ|pg||
nt|szalay: re|pg||
nt|eggy: @HQ sorry|pg||
nt|brolucius: East's sequence promises 5-5 in the USA (they start with Stayman on 5-4). Some UK pairs would show only 5-4 with the 3@H rebid.|pg||
nt|brolucius: I'm surprised West did not cue-bid in diamonds, with her good cards. (Just in case East was interested)|pg||
nt|Walddk4: They did well in both rooms to avoid the 5-level|pg||
nt|Walddk4: Both 5@H and 5@S can be defeated|pg||
nt|brolucius: South must now be worried that she has missed a good sacrifice in clubs. (She knows partner is short in hearts.)|pg||
nt|kista: Chances are that EW are overboard again |pg||
nt|mcphee: wow|pg||
pc|dK|nt|dinos1: 1N - 18-20|pg||
nt|scotty: Declarer will usually play the Q here, hoping to keep N out.   |pg||
nt|scotty: If the contract is 1NT, it's usually correct to play low, since opponents will have enough cards to both have entries|pg||
nt|scotty: Most would lead the J from that holding - I'm sure Martens is thinking that|pg||
nt|roghog: Always lands my partner in a 3-3er when I double like that|pg||
nt|Walddk2: And then a bonus match in the next round .........|pg||
nt|tsanders: yes, 2 rounds of @c holds it to 4|pg||
nt|csimon: 5@h doesn't really make and 5@d is a better save|pg||
nt|henryb: 5H can go down, but might not.|pg||
nt|csimon: it will go down even if you finesse the @d|pg||
nt|mich-b: I don't see how EW could get to @Hs|pg||
nt|henryb: 5D always down|pg||
nt|csimon: tap dummy once and it will go down a lot|pg||
nt|jtr: Trouble is the defence have nothing else to do against 5@h than shorten the dummy|pg||
nt|mich-b: unless East took a unilateral shot at the 5 level|pg||
nt|csimon: unless you just give up a @d - so same as 5@d|pg||
nt|jtr: Not a lot  When @ds break badly you just give up one|pg||
pc|d7|pg||
nt|timb: this is down one |pg||
nt|Walddk2: USA1 vs. Brazil (BB)|pg||
nt|Zmud99: and we add USA1 Vs Brazil at 15.00 Paris , 9am NY )|pg||
nt|Walddk2: :-)|pg||
nt|cuttysark: I like the balancing double to show 3 spades preciely - with 4 kust bid 2@S|pg||
nt|hedyg: for all running scores and results: http://www.swangames.com/main/Bridgecast/Rama/Estoril_2005/estoril_2005.html|pg||
nt|csimon: Sontag took a chance and came up smelling of roses :)|pg||
nt|roghog: I'm surprised at it|pg||
nt|cuttysark: Shorter suit more likely to generate tricks in a suit contract|pg||
nt|bjacobs: Yes, I think that could be it|pg||
nt|nickf: i prefer to lead from length and play a forcing game|pg||
nt|cuttysark: Can one force a 5-4 fit?|pg||
nt|szalay: i dont think any chance for @S guess, and w/o @D lead @D misguess is likely as well|pg||
nt|nickf: well its not known to be 5-4 on the auction |pg||
nt|swanson: Big matchpoint result for Japan here.  Not worth any IMPs, however.|pg||
nt|csimon: yes|pg||
nt|desert: we request all children to leave the room now.....;-)|pg||
nt|mcphee: 5@H to me is simply horrible|pg||
pc|cT|nt|Walddk2: Italy vs. USA2, seniors      your chance to watch Garozzo, Forquet and Zia in action|pg||
nt|szalay: cause off: with A of @D South doesnt lead @D, but away from Q its a possibility|pg||
nt|jtr: although... A trump promotion might appear|pg||
pc|c9|nt|csimon: and then found the best lead|pg||
nt|tsanders: maybe not|pg||
pc|c7|nt|csimon: but if you commit to trying to make 5@h, you may have sealed your fate to down a lot|pg||
nt|jtr: So down 2 i guess in 5@hs|pg||
nt|jtr: But hey, how are they going to find 5@h anyway?|pg||
nt|henryb: I bet some tables make 5H|pg||
nt|csimon: that is true - I like the unilateral 5@d save better :)|pg||
nt|csimon: surely not in the world championships Henry!|pg||
nt|scotty: Well he got a chance to make a penalty double of 1m-1S, 1N-2@s (NF) was that SO terrible|pg||
nt|desert: agree|pg||
pc|c3|pg||
nt|lesniak: sure but what about AJ87x??|pg||
nt|cuttysark: Spade guess now?|pg||
nt|szalay: no restricted choice here|pg||
nt|nickf: this is not a restricted choice position|pg||
nt|cuttysark: No, but still...|pg||
nt|szalay: T doesnt make restricted choice...what wd u play from QT?|pg||
nt|bjacobs: What about South's failure to lead a trump from 52?|pg||
nt|szalay: trump lead for Italy|pg||
nt|aap00: probably go down|pg||
pc|c2|nt|mich-b: Justin found  a very thin raise|pg||
nt|scotty: sorry private|pg||
nt|ozdil: 3 NT was better now 4 H can down..|pg||
nt|Walddk3: Our fixtures for the last 3 RR rounds tomorrow are: Sweden vs. Argentina, USA2 vs. Brazil and USA1 vs. Italy, all from the Bermuda Bowl|pg||
nt|aap00: @s lead, trying to discard, ooops...|pg||
nt|ozdil: big surprise for Greco N  ruff first club..|pg||
pc|cK|nt|lesniak: orso|pg||
nt|henryb: As some kibitzers have told me, 3H down 2 after spade ruff|pg||
nt|mich-b: and that created some problems for the Japanese|pg||
nt|kista: Greco will try @c A and oops|pg||
pc|cA|nt|yuval10: West didn't even consider it, i guess|pg||
nt|scotty: N might have done well to return the @d3, to create the impression they were splitting 4-4|pg||
nt|dinos1: or AJ107? :)|pg||
nt|hedyg: with trump-control that wasnt too hard|pg||
nt|nickf: but its an unusual play in trumps|pg||
nt|bjacobs: Just a thought|pg||
nt|szalay: wd, really|pg||
nt|jallerton: In london people get confused between clocks going forward & back, Roland|pg||
nt|Walddk2: Will be much worse tomorrow|pg||
pc|c6|pg||
nt|dburn: 3NT was a truly awful contract, and it's not altogether clear that it should have made|pg||
nt|dburn: but if North, reasonably, led @c10, I can see how it would come home|pg||
nt|henryb: Hard to beat: after 2S, say N plays heart. Declarer plays 4 rounds, later endplays N with 4th club|pg||
nt|swanson: He is going to eventually be forced to lead a diamond no matter how he defends (at notrump).|pg||
nt|henryb: So 4H, 3C, 2D|pg||
nt|dburn: Indeed. Believers in justice should, perhaps, take up some game other than bridge.|pg||
nt|swanson: The Astros need Versace and Lauria.|pg||
nt|nickf: leading the K first|pg||
nt|bjacobs: So it WAS restricted choice ... restricted choice on the lead|pg||
nt|roghog: Another coup. Sublime!|pg||
nt|scotty: E perhaps should have been happy he was playing Strong club and started that way|pg||
nt|gerben42: yes hope no one will turn up for match at wrong time|pg||
nt|Walddk2: We put our clocks 1 hour back, the Aussies do the opposite|pg||
pc|c4|nt|vugraph141: true|pg||
nt|brolucius: A spade lead, seeking a ruff, would not work because declarer could take quick discards on the diamonds.|pg||
nt|jtr: @c7 might have worked|pg||
pc|c8|nt|szalay: no smith signal for them?|pg||
nt|scotty: Again, most lead the J from that|pg||
nt|dinos1: doesnt help if u lose the lead|pg||
nt|mich-b: I think North should have corrected to 4@S , but perhaps was afraid South's hand is based on long @Ds|pg||
pc|cQ|nt|nickf: an anymous spec wondered if it was a 3 finger play |pg||
nt|henryb: The Kiwi ladies made 850|pg||
nt|desert: looks like 1100|pg||
pc|h8|pg||
nt|nickf: but I doubt it|pg||
nt|cuttysark: 4 game swings in 7 boards, and we have seen all the games that made|pg||
nt|nickf: these guys are beyond reproach|pg||
nt|cuttysark: Lucky us|pg||
nt|bjacobs: No, what we are seeing here is the reason these teams are 1 and 2|pg||
nt|bjacobs: It's that edge that kills journeymen strong players|pg||
nt|roghog: He's brave enough to back his hunch|pg||
nt|scotty: Fantoni does not know where @sJ is |pg||
nt|scotty: They lead 3rd/5th vs. suits so 4 could be 654|pg||
nt|kista: Opening 1@C 4th seat Greco can expect an easier auction|pg||
nt|ozdil: now K  spade an if diamond back, if Greco play small heart from dummy can down more..|pg||
nt|scotty: But since he can't overruff dummy, not a huge concern|pg||
pc|c5|nt|cuttysark: And it is worth giving them a push if they are going to land in the wrong strain|pg||
nt|swanson: Declarer erred by not inserting a heart spot from dummy at the second trick.  But East error was even greated fro not inserting the @H7.|pg||
nt|csimon: anorexic raise Michael :)|pg||
pc|h6|nt|odysseus69: 1 imp|pg||
nt|swanson: Would have set the contract.|pg||
nt|mich-b: somewhat careless here by both sides|pg||
nt|dburn: No one has attempted 5@h in the Bermuda Bowl, at any rate|pg||
pc|cJ|nt|davpro: mmm...but would she really play a true @c? If not it doesn't really matter what club is played...|pg||
nt|Walddk2: And there will be 10 hours between Paris and Sydney. It is 8 hours right now|pg||
nt|jallerton: Aussies usually do the opposite thing|pg||
nt|bjacobs: There goes the entry, and 1NT will make.  At the other table, a low spade put declarer to the test, and he stuck in the 9 for one down|pg||
nt|gerben42: like pass where everyone open and vice versa?|pg||
nt|jallerton: yes, they like their forcing pass systems "down under"|pg||
nt|bjacobs: Talking of Antipodean theories ... Paul Marston is the one who championed East's heart lead here ... leading the shorter suit to NT|pg||
nt|eggy: and their opening relay systems .. I played with an Aussie here a few times and he was amazed that it was a HUM|pg||
nt|Walddk2: South Africa are 31 IMPs up against Netherlands in the BB after 8 boards|pg||
nt|timb: not one of my favourites|pg||
nt|bjacobs: the short suit lead?|pg||
pc|h7|pg||
nt|beto: no|pg||
nt|mcphee: had they defence found the safe trump lead this would have been a major number|pg||
nt|jack2001: Another easy contract. Not what Jack needs right now|pg||
pc|h9|nt|csimon: ??|pg||
nt|timb: yes|pg||
pc|h5|nt|lesniak: martens will try clubs than if not luck -ace of spades|pg||
nt|jtr: Hacketts N/S David?:-)|pg||
pc|h4|nt|csimon: not really - Weichsel will be endplayed if Garozzo takes the 1st @c|pg||
nt|bjacobs: I think probably even Paul has given up on it|pg||
pc|s4|pg||
nt|scotty: I guess he fifured Greco would have bid 3N with AJx as several kibitzers pointed out|pg||
pc|s9|nt|dburn: Meanwhile, Nystrom is making slightly heavy weather of 3@c|pg||
nt|gerben42: anyone do simulations for various hands after standard auctions like 1NT p 3NT?|pg||
nt|kista: no only -800|pg||
pc|s5|nt|szalay: unlucky|pg||
pc|sJ|nt|hedyg: it will be -1|pg||
nt|jtr: Good point|pg||
nt|dburn: I believe so. England played in 5@s doubled down one, but South Africa played in 3NT down three.|pg||
pc|s2|pg||
nt|eggy: If he played the Heart Q, would east know whether he wanted Hearts or not?|pg||
nt|beto: +1?|pg||
nt|yuval10: +1 ? isn't is just made?|pg||
nt|vugraph141: correction qfter some qrgue ))|pg||
nt|eggy: probably|pg||
nt|vugraph141: aarrgghh|pg||
nt|vugraph141: english keyboqrd heh|pg||
nt|eggy: why do we get blamed for everything|pg||
nt|dburn: but he will make the contract, and when he finds that he has lost only 10 IMP for so doing, he will start throwing furniture about|pg||
nt|swanson: Needs to play @DA and ruff before using the heart ruff for a second entry.|pg||
nt|henryb: Now neds to play DA, D ruff, H ruff and D ruff|pg||
nt|swanson: Which he will do.|pg||
nt|henryb: Or H ruff, club, and N is ended|pg||
nt|ozdil: Fantoni is good desicion, if AJX spade in E, probably he can bid 3 NT over 3 SP double..|pg||
nt|kista: Duboin should not have removed 3NT in the open room|pg||
nt|timb: as Jeff Rubens said "It's not backed up by calculation or practice"|pg||
nt|mcphee: time for El Kourdy to take a walk|pg||
pc|d8|nt|bjacobs: No Gerben, I have a life|pg||
pc|d9|pc|dA|nt|mich-b: Why did Kraft play a @C trick 3?|pg||
nt|scotty: And declarer may have a heart guess, with say KQ10|pg||
pc|d3|pg||
nt|nickf: card reading like this shows you why these guys are the best in the world|pg||
nt|szalay: close to the best|pg||
nt|cuttysark: Singleton 10 more likely than Q10 doubleton?|pg||
nt|szalay: they didnt BB|pg||
nt|szalay: win|pg||
pc|hT|nt|eggy: India are now 2nd overall and Egypt 3rd, but a few more hands like this and they may getting towards trouble|pg||
pc|hK|pc|hQ|pc|s3|pg||
nt|swanson: This will work also, endplaying North|pg||
pc|sA|pc|sQ|nt|roghog: Her brave bid earns a deserved divi. We can see why Portugal are doing so well |pg||
nt|hedyg: yes!!! they have a woman on the team!!!!!!!!!!|pg||
pc|s8|pc|sT|pg||
pc|s7|nt|timb: (paraphrasing him)|pg||
pc|sK|pc|d2|nt|roghog: Any other ladies in the BB this time?|pg||
pc|d6|pg||
nt|mcphee: this sort of result is very difficult to take back to a solid pair at the other table|pg||
nt|eggy: current real-time position on http://www.swangames.com/rama/leaderboard.php?eventid=282641&roundno=1&segno=21|pg||
pc|dT|pc|dJ|pc|dQ|pc|s6|pg||
pg||
qx|o8|st||md|2SQ74HKTDAQ9CAKQ96,SAK86HQ82DKJT62C5,S532HA97654D83C82,SJT9HJ3D754CJT743|sv|o|mb|1D|mb|p|mb|p|nt|sartre: Another push.  1 IMP on the first seven deals -- a near-record for computer bridge.|pg||
mb|d|nt|al9al9: robots never assume an opponent is psyching|pg||
mb|1S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|2C|nt|mrdct: i think the standard to play has been very good so far|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|sA|pc|s2|pc|s9|pc|s7|pg||
nt|sartre: Awkward club split here:|pg||
pc|c5|pc|c2|pc|cT|pc|cK|pg||
nt|mrdct: zia once put up 1 million pounds that a computer could never beat the world "human" champions (or something similar) but withdrew that offer a year or two ago|pg||
pc|cQ|nt|sartre: Some fireworks in the closed room|pg||
nt|Walddk2: 7 was a nice falsecard, but East should have followed with the jack|pg||
pc|d2|pc|c8|nt|Walddk2: Maybe "he" is not allowed to when playing against Jack|pg||
pc|c7|pg||
nt|Walddk2: :-)|pg||
pc|hK|pc|h2|pc|h4|pc|h3|pg||
pc|hT|pc|h8|pc|hA|pc|hJ|pg||
pc|h5|nt|sartre: Jack finds 3D doubled by West in the closed room and will soon regret it.|pg||
pc|d4|pc|c6|pc|hQ|pg||
pc|s4|pc|s6|pc|s3|pc|sT|pg||
pc|d5|nt|mrdct: is there a commercial release of WB5?|pg||
pc|dA|pc|d6|pc|d3|pg||
pc|d9|pc|dT|nt|sartre: WB5 is available for free download, but the competition version is not (yet?).|pg||
pc|d8|pc|d7|pg||
pc|sK|pc|s5|pc|sJ|pc|sQ|pg||
pc|dJ|pc|h6|pc|c3|pc|dQ|pg||
nt|Walddk2: The world has gone mad. 1200 humans watching 8 computers|pg||
nt|sartre: Jack has done well here to fight off the 5-1 trump break and pick up two trump tricks by forcing East to ruff in front of him.|pg||
mc|8|pg||
qx|c8|st||md|2SQ74HKTDAQ9CAKQ96,SAK86HQ82DKJT62C5,S532HA97654D83C82,SJT9HJ3D754CJT743|sv|o|nt|dinos1: if @sA and @cHxx in N - makes anyway|pg||
nt|scotty: Poles misjudged slightly in the other room, selling out to 4@s|pg||
nt|frenske: 5@h for n/s|pg||
nt|lesniak: will see what Martens opens |pg||
nt|csimon: here's the slam I was asking for|pg||
nt|csimon: must be played by S, so 6@h only|pg||
nt|bjacobs: I am told these 2 pairs are 1 and 3 in the Butler averages|pg||
nt|cuttysark: That will surprise no-one|pg||
nt|csimon: only a @c underlead at trk 1 defeats 5@s and nothing defeats 5@h|pg||
nt|brolucius: Declarer would dispose of the singleton club in her hand|pg||
nt|odysseus69: 1NT X ????|pg||
nt|jtr: 5@s bid over what i wonder?|pg||
nt|henryb: Boring board here, more excitement elsewhere|pg||
nt|mich-b: If you take a look at the auction in the CR something went very wrong for the Canadian NS|pg||
nt|scotty: Well maybe his partner shouldn't double 1@s - I know Kokish wouldn't!|pg||
nt|gerben42: so 5 more to Sweden|pg||
nt|eggy: Empiricism is not a bridge player's religion usually|pg||
nt|gerben42: 3@D in closed a good save against a @S partial|pg||
nt|Walddk2: Our next match is at 11 pm Beijing time, 23.00. I know we have many spectators from China|pg||
nt|jallerton: have we lost connection?|pg||
nt|Walddk2: Unless time has changed in China before then of course. To make it simpler: the next match will start in 2 hours and 38 minutes from now|pg||
nt|gerben42: West has 17 HCP but all stacked in short suits|pg||
nt|gerben42: still worth 16+ strong 1@C but not a Swedish 17+ I think|pg||
nt|jallerton: Roland will tell you that the nice @d suit compensates for the stiff Q!|pg||
nt|Zmud99: play resume|pg||
nt|gerben42: @D875 interior sequence?|pg||
nt|Walddk2: It's 18.23 in Beijing now I am told, so the next match will be at 21.00 for our Chinese viewers|pg||
nt|mcphee: exactly|pg||
nt|kista: 6@h is on|pg||
mb|1D|nt|eggy: it'll be the rebate next|pg||
nt|swanson: Evidently the textbooks have it right - 3rd hand high, even if only the 7.|pg||
nt|aap00: 1@S-2@c-4@s-?|pg||
nt|scotty: E-W would prefer to be in 4@h here|pg||
nt|scotty: but tough over 41s|pg||
nt|scotty: 4@s|pg||
nt|aap00: don't thk they wud be able to bid @h|pg||
nt|jallerton: "impletion" as Andy Robson says|pg||
nt|kista: on a non-trump lead|pg||
mb|p|nt|mich-b: ending in a 4-2 fit |pg||
nt|jtr: Misunderstanding about the X of 1@s it seems|pg||
mb|p|nt|beto: brazil bid and made 6n here|pg||
nt|vugraph141: i am to be blamed, dude|pg||
nt|jbgood: 6 nt by south is Very difficukt to reach|pg||
nt|hedyg: cant reach anything by S now|pg||
nt|csimon: yes - 6nt by S or 6@d by S are the only makeable slams|pg||
nt|jbgood: specially now:)'|pg||
nt|cuttysark: I am told Q10 very slightly more likely - bit it's close|pg||
nt|brolucius: Some players bid 2NT to show a 4-card raise and 3@H to show a 3-card raise.|pg||
nt|mich-b: the declarer should surely have played a higher card from dummy ... either the 8 or the 10|pg||
nt|jtr: Normal to play it as @ss|pg||
nt|mich-b: Yes, I think most play 1@C - X - 1@S - X as penalty|pg||
mb|d|nt|bjacobs: OK, the Butler averages is each pairs imp score against the average (or datum) of all pairs|pg||
nt|scotty: Fantoni Nunes also play a very random WNT opening - even 5-2-4-2 shape is possible.  They have no choice, systemically|pg||
mb|1S|nt|yuval10: first grand slam of the day |pg||
nt|mich-b: a raise to 4@S might Force north to a 5 level decision|pg||
nt|henryb: Double would work well|pg||
nt|odysseus69: 3H makes it tough forNS-brave bid|pg||
nt|csimon: yes, that is the popular treatment|pg||
nt|jtr: X=4 cards 2@s=5 cards|pg||
nt|Walddk2: Please understand that the commentators (including me) may not have time to respond to private chat messages. No offence intended|pg||
nt|kista: After @s A lead @cK & @H K were marked with North in the open. Bocchi should have made 5@c|pg||
nt|gerben42: btw Sweden and Argentina are playing in parallel in the Venice Cup also, interesting coincidence|pg||
nt|mcphee: I am sure they will be content to reach game|pg||
nt|Vugraph803: supp double|pg||
mb|2H|nt|cuttysark: A slightly stronger weak NT than the last one!|pg||
nt|brolucius: Since East is unlimited, West takes the opprtunity to show 'extras' with a first- or second-round cue-bid.|pg||
nt|odysseus69: sensible opening- I hate 1NT|pg||
nt|mich-b: 1NT is 10-12 here|pg||
nt|jtr: I was brought up in the era when 1a-X-1M was a standard psyche:-)|pg||
nt|csimon: this is an incredibly low-scoring match|pg||
nt|scotty: Not sure what is happening here|pg||
mb|3D|nt|mich-b: prob 4NT?|pg||
nt|scotty: 3@s looks down the middle - in the other room NORTH opened a Polish 2@h|pg||
nt|cuttysark: Interesting defensive problem|pg||
nt|csimon: ah - 6@d by S!!!|pg||
nt|hedyg: what is pass over 2@d?|pg||
nt|bjacobs: a good indicator of how you are going individually|pg||
nt|szalay: singular even destributions are more likely the odd - one...so 1 piece of 2-2 always more likely then 1 piece of 3-1|pg||
nt|jjsb: butler for BB http://www.brenning.se/results/2005/bermudabowl/butler/bermudabowl-qualifying.htm|pg||
nt|jjsb: VC : http://www.brenning.se/results/2005/venicecup/butler/venicecup-qualifying.htm|pg||
nt|szalay: but dont forget sthg: its TEAM CHAMPS:-)|pg||
nt|jjsb: SB : http://www.brenning.se/results/2005/seniorsbowl/butler/seniorsbowl-qualifying.htm|pg||
nt|henryb: 1NT 10-12, explains S pass|pg||
mb|d|nt|dburn: Not quite - there was one in the last match|pg||
nt|szalay: no, it happened in first round, No1|pg||
nt|yuval10: with either @h finnesse or @h-@s squeeze, can be inetersting|pg||
nt|roghog: If they start with 3 @h, you'll have to play for S to have both Aces|pg||
nt|swanson: Can Fantoni be certain partner holds a heart stop on this auction?|pg||
mb|p|nt|mich-b: 4NT by North is showing a 2 suiter|pg||
nt|hedyg: switch to @s after 2nd @h duck?|pg||
nt|brolucius: Smith signhs off, despite holding a diamond control that she might have cue-bid. She was minimum for the original bid.|pg||
nt|Walddk2: Looks like NS can make 3@S and gain a few IMPs|pg||
mb|p|nt|scotty: 4N = 2 places to play - takeout!|pg||
nt|cuttysark: If 2 hearts stand up best to switch to spadess|pg||
nt|odysseus69: no|pg||
nt|swanson: No.|pg||
nt|odysseus69: henrys suggestion of double was better idea- double is the flexible friend|pg||
mb|p|nt|szalay: 1N was 12-14?|pg||
nt|yuval10: i must've missed it|pg||
nt|beto: weak NT yes|pg||
nt|szalay: but @H finesse: which direction? a bit easier here:-)|pg||
nt|vugraph141: nunes considering deeply..|pg||
nt|yuval10: in the right direction, of course :)|pg||
nt|yuval10: he's not considering pass, of course... |pg||
nt|szalay: u cant take all minor winners cause of no enough entries|pg||
nt|Zmud99: Soloway thinking...|pg||
nt|mich-b: Hmm|pg||
nt|mich-b: maybe he thinks this sequence is a slam invitation in @Hs?|pg||
nt|mich-b: I wonder if 1NT - DBL - ALL pass might happend in some other matches?|pg||
nt|odysseus69: they get the fate they deserve- and I am sure it will happen|pg||
nt|mich-b: Can we re-check with the operator if on board 7 declarer did play a SMALL @H , trick 2 ?|pg||
nt|Zmud99: no every table played 4@S except Argentina ...Argentina played 5@H x in NS|pg||
nt|mich-b: who are "They" , Victor ?  those who would open 1NT ?|pg||
nt|Zmud99: small @H was good here...|pg||
nt|odysseus69: some are playing here |pg||
nt|mich-b: Wow - note the quiet 2@S overcall of 1NT made in the CR!|pg||
nt|Zmud99: Bangladesh seniors played 2@S too|pg||
pc|c8|nt|roghog: Butler can be distorted by the matches you sit out, except Sadek & El Ahmady don't...|pg||
nt|nickf: also distorted if you play against weaker or stronger pairs.|pg||
nt|roghog: ...or luckier :-)|pg||
nt|brolucius: Ignore that last (fatuous) remark.|pg||
nt|scotty: Maybe S will lead a @h!|pg||
pc|cT|nt|scotty: Yet again, a preempt fails|pg||
nt|Walddk2: 3 most likely|pg||
nt|gerben42: or bid 4 and lose some...|pg||
nt|jallerton: 3@d game try is too much is North could have made a UCB|pg||
nt|mcphee: well that settles the question about slam|pg||
pc|cQ|nt|dinos1: no - just @cAK and @hQ with stiff @s give 6|pg||
nt|scotty: Converting 5@c to 5@h should be a slam try, but not converting 5@d|pg||
nt|roghog: Specs tell me Sofia Pessoa is the only lady in the BB this time|pg||
nt|Walddk2: But they can't make 4, and Argentina will win 3 instead|pg||
nt|eggy: trouble was Lindqvist took 3D seriously|pg||
nt|mcphee: N over bid his hand|pg||
pc|c5|pg||
nt|vugraph141: tankinsg again..|pg||
nt|szalay: i bet for 6N as final contract|pg||
nt|vugraph141: tanking*|pg||
nt|dburn: Nunes may be a little perplexed by this...|pg||
nt|szalay: unlucky no safety play here...if East has Kxx in trumps, HE can get a ruff in minor|pg||
nt|eggy: Chokshi must think Egypt are rocky and trying to capitalise|pg||
pc|cA|nt|dburn: Have you got a spade stop? Yes. All right then - we won't play in 3NT.|pg||
nt|swanson: What would the double of 3@H imply ?  If hearts, North doesn't have it.|pg||
nt|henryb: Careful defense will see the Swedes back in the lead|pg||
nt|swanson: IN any event, the aggressive Swedish bidding made it very tough for N-S.|pg||
nt|henryb: Have to cash the SK before playing second heart|pg||
nt|henryb: Double probably would have collected 500|pg||
nt|swanson: North will probably rise, hoping for doubleton @DK in West, fearing a 7-1 heart split.|pg||
nt|henryb: And 2-2 clubs|pg||
nt|odysseus69: Double should say do something intelligent- obviously not just a spade stop for 3NT or else 3S|pg||
nt|brolucius: North is hoping that her partner holds a horrendous trump stack. Not today!|pg||
nt|ozdil: Greco can make the contrat, probably he will  start Q club from dummy...|pg||
nt|aap00: playing @c Q even more likely here as N can't have singl @cv|pg||
nt|kista: CC shows 2NT = strong 2 suiter|pg||
nt|scotty: Greco should start with a small club from his hand, since he knows N does not have singleton|pg||
nt|ozdil: and same line for heart, after show the ace spade|pg||
nt|scotty: I should have said "could" not "should"|pg||
pc|dT|nt|vugraph141: explanations both sides of the screen|pg||
nt|mich-b: But if you have a slam try in @Hs , can you really bid this way?  How can you predict that pd will bid 5@C and not 5@D?|pg||
nt|jtr: seems odd to cash the other @c|pg||
nt|henryb: Making 2 or 3  does not matter. 8 imps to Germany|pg||
nt|scotty: Since the 9 will subject him to a nasty guess, he might prefer not to - no real reason to place S with a stiff|pg||
pc|c2|nt|cuttysark: Wow|pg||
nt|hedyg: wowwwwwwwwww wd!!!|pg||
nt|davpro: well done!|pg||
pc|c3|pg||
nt|mcphee: the cue bid raise to show @S support is dubious|pg||
pc|h2|nt|henryb: De Falco hopes D are not 4=0|pg||
pc|hA|nt|cuttysark: Mind you, if West ducks he must play a diamond next|pg||
nt|aap00: @c Q more correct, N can hold @sKQJ, @hKJ & @cJ |pg||
pc|h3|nt|hedyg: can still make this if no @d now!!!|pg||
nt|cuttysark: Ci=unning club discard|pg||
nt|cuttysark: @S9 should tell him West has K10|pg||
nt|mich-b: call me aggressive ... but I wouldnt settle on a partscore with the East hand|pg||
nt|aap00: only|pg||
pc|hT|pg||
nt|szalay: if we play A and small, but its better play: we r safe for 2-2 or stiff K |pg||
nt|scotty: Well done!|pg||
nt|jack2001: A terrible bid by Jack and will doubled by WBridge|pg||
pc|h4|nt|Walddk4: Our last match today in 2 hours and 15 minutes will feature Japan vs. England in the Bermuda Bowl|pg||
nt|scotty: N was marked with @cK, so this was correct|pg||
nt|kista:  cross ruff will make 12 tricks|pg||
pc|hJ|nt|hedyg: phewwwwwwwwwww|pg||
pc|hK|nt|cuttysark: Double Wow|pg||
nt|Walddk2: Fredin is an optimistic bidder. Seems quite a stretch to advance over 2@S|pg||
pc|h8|pg||
nt|kista: It was almost so in the open too|pg||
nt|jack2001: Will go down at least 2|pg||
pc|c6|nt|eggy: well done Guorgy|pg||
nt|szalay: China bid and made 7N|pg||
nt|jallerton: He could have tried 3NT which needs the defence to be more careful|pg||
pc|dJ|nt|eggy: I can't believe El Khourdy will expect trumps to break|pg||
pc|s2|nt|swanson: These discard situations are always difficult for the defense.  South needs to keep a heart entry.|pg||
pc|c4|pg||
nt|henryb: two hurdles down|pg||
pc|sK|nt|szalay: it wasnt my hardest bet:-)|pg||
nt|csimon: playing Precision, the last hand might have been opened 2@c - any comments?|pg||
pc|s3|nt|frenske: indeed this is a normal 4@s bid|pg||
nt|swanson: Declarer is now likely to make.|pg||
nt|Walddk2: If anything, 3@S pre-emptive would have been more appropriate in my opinion|pg||
pc|s9|nt|frenske: at this time he can endplay N|pg||
nt|swanson: No endplay provided North keeps all his hearts.|pg||
nt|frenske: yes indeed |pg||
nt|odysseus69: can he read it- I think so|pg||
nt|odysseus69: right|pg||
pc|s4|pg||
nt|henryb: The double diamond finesse might have been a better chance|pg||
nt|mich-b: dont think he can make|pg||
pc|hQ|pc|h5|nt|eggy: On the squeeze I imagine - you don't get written up for taking a finesse|pg||
nt|mich-b: or you just gamble on it , and give up if he does bid 5@D ?|pg||
nt|jtr: E/W play udca  So @c7 at trick one was discouraging but take as odd number|pg||
pc|sT|nt|lesniak: lucky Hamman's decision|pg||
pc|d9|pg||
nt|odysseus69: good shot|pg||
nt|csimon: wow!|pg||
nt|swanson: Very clever by Justin.  VERY!|pg||
nt|mich-b: Ohhhh ...|pg||
pc|c9|nt|henryb: And Weichsel hopes partner has CK, HA|pg||
nt|Walddk4: Our last match today will feature Italy vs. Sweden (Bermuda Bowl). 18.30 Paris, 12:30 pm New York                                                                           |pg||
nt|odysseus69: this will get a write up in 7 languages|pg||
nt|mich-b: South will feel disgusted now ...|pg||
nt|Zmud99: Audience is Clapping here !! Even DF can't find it !!|pg||
nt|mich-b: very unpleasant|pg||
pc|s6|nt|brolucius: 'Cue bids almost always first-round before second-round', their C-card says. That explains East's 4@H.|pg||
nt|csimon: it is a 6-loser hand - good offense potential...|pg||
pc|d3|pc|c7|pg||
pc|s5|pc|sJ|pc|sQ|pc|sA|pg||
nt|swanson: If hearts are 7-1 and clubs 2-2, I would rather go for the doubleton @DK.|pg||
pc|s8|nt|kista: And the double is pure hope ... rather hopeless|pg||
pc|d8|nt|eggy: well done|pg||
pc|cJ|pc|s7|pg||
pc|h9|nt|mcphee: good play|pg||
pc|d4|pc|dQ|pc|dK|pg||
pc|d2|pc|h6|pc|d5|nt|szalay: we dont know the play from other matcjes, just the result|pg||
pc|dA|pg||
pc|cK|pc|d6|pc|h7|pc|d7|pg||
nt|jack2001: down 3|pg||
pg||
qx|o9|st||md|3SJ83H43D842CKQ965,SHAQJT9DAT97CAT42,S9654H652D653CJ73,SAKQT72HK87DKQJC8|sv|e|nt|sartre: WB5, knowing the whole distribution, leads the JD for an equivalent result.|pg||
nt|mrdct: grandslam time|pg||
nt|sartre: Jack saved only 1 IMP by making 2C; 3D went down 3 doubled for 9 IMPs to WB5.|pg||
mb|p|nt|al9al9: lets see if they get to 7nt|pg||
nt|sartre: Here's a chance for Jack to pick up IMPs.|pg||
mb|2C|mb|p|mb|2H|nt|sartre: WB5 uses the standard French system with weak 2H and 2S, so 2C is forcing but not game-forcing.|pg||
nt|mrdct: west can keycard in @h now and count 13 tricks|pg||
nt|sartre: 2H is natural.|pg||
nt|Walddk2: 2@D would be game forcing in French standard|pg||
mb|p|nt|sartre: Exactly.|pg||
mb|3H|mb|p|mb|4N|nt|sartre: 2H created a game force, so 3H shows support.|pg||
mb|p|nt|sartre: Here comes the check for keycards.|pg||
mb|5H|nt|mrdct: the wrong hand is asking the questions though|pg||
mb|p|mb|5N|mb|p|nt|Walddk2: But can West locate the source of tricks for the grand slam is the question|pg||
nt|sartre: Showing two keycards but no QH.|pg||
mb|6H|mb|p|nt|sartre: 5NT checking on kings.|pg||
nt|sartre: Two kings outside hearts.|pg||
mb|7N|nt|sartre: Simulation by WB5 here.|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|Walddk2: Very well done|pg||
nt|sartre: The simulation results in 7NT.|pg||
mb|p|pc|d3|nt|al9al9: East should bid 7H over 5nt|pg||
pc|dJ|nt|sartre: Jack's in the midst of an auction in the closed room with a lot of gadgets.|pg||
nt|Walddk2: No nasty ruffs possible, so 7NT is obviously the superior grand slam|pg||
pc|d2|pc|d7|pg||
nt|sartre: 2NT showing a void in spades -- very useful bid.|pg||
mc|13|pg||
qx|c9|st||md|3SJ83H43D842CKQ965,SHAQJT9DAT97CAT42,S9654H652D653CJ73,SAKQT72HK87DKQJC8|sv|e|nt|eggy: As pointed out, Fantoni had to Vienna the SA for the squeeze to work|pg||
nt|eggy: but I am sure he does them in his sleep|pg||
nt|beto: italians bid 6@S with 2 aces out|pg||
nt|yuval10: 4@s here for EW, NS can save to 5@h though|pg||
nt|szalay: the par-score is 6@Hx -3 by N-S|pg||
nt|yuval10: great chance for Brazil|pg||
nt|scotty: You can't but it's better than nothing - at least it works half the time.  Partner cannot bid 5@d unless he prefers BOTH red suits over clubs|pg||
nt|hedyg: amazing! very well defended!|pg||
nt|roghog: Brilliant! We see why Fu and his partner are +0.5 on the Butler|pg||
nt|hedyg: standing ovation from the audience|pg||
nt|hedyg: i am very impressed|pg||
nt|henryb: But that gives W 3 spades, and that is less likely|pg||
nt|brolucius: Some would, yes. Only a 9-count.|pg||
nt|csimon: that was worth the price of admission|pg||
nt|mcphee: and very fortunate there waqs no redble I think|pg||
nt|Walddk1: Versace scored 1150 on this hand. How did Italy lose 11 IMPs then?|pg||
nt|Walddk1: Riddle|pg||
mb|p|mb|2C!|nt|szalay: 2@H was a usual 9-14 natural?|pg||
nt|mich-b: Another dull 3NT here, it seems|pg||
mb|p|nt|eggy: Didn't the Italians invent Roman Blackwood?|pg||
nt|frenske: indeed with @c 3-3|pg||
nt|cuttysark: Wasn't so easy for us to see looking at all 4 hands, was it Hedy?|pg||
nt|roghog: Thousand specs standing as they watch :-)|pg||
nt|mich-b: Sorry to spoil the party , but I think the defense had enough informative discards to get that right|pg||
nt|odysseus69: the modern style for the very young is to doble and then bid 2D over 2 clubs - this no longer shows the extra values it used to |pg||
nt|mich-b: in the Juniors world Championships few months ago , Joe Grue from the USA made 4@SX on a similar play|pg||
nt|swanson: Yes, but still, Justin had to have the nerve to back up his accurate reading of the layout.|pg||
nt|mich-b: playing the J from AKJXX in hand and xxxx in dummy|pg||
nt|mich-b: LHO had Qxx , and ducked|pg||
nt|eggy: 1650?|pg||
mb|2H!|nt|szalay: they invented Rome only...|pg||
nt|szalay: or found by Romulus and Remus|pg||
nt|yuval10: Nunes bid didn't confuse West|pg||
nt|vugraph141: 3nt showed @h support|pg||
nt|vugraph141: nothing about @ss|pg||
nt|vugraph141: guess direct 4@h is a yarb|pg||
nt|odysseus69: it still need confidence in card reading- embarassing to lose to Qx|pg||
nt|jtr: With AKQ, i would play Q for attitude K for count at NT|pg||
nt|mich-b: Hmm.. NS were down 4 in 4@H last board , here only down 3 :))|pg||
nt|Walddk1: Hamann was in 6!X +1  for 1740|pg||
nt|Walddk1: 6@CX +1|pg||
nt|eggy: +1!|pg||
mb|p|nt|hedyg: not at all!|pg||
nt|dburn: Maybe in three boards' time, they'll make it|pg||
nt|mich-b: I am not sure why North bid over the 3@H in the CR auction|pg||
nt|gerben42: this hand played 1NT from various directions|pg||
mb|2S|nt|bjacobs: 1NT = 8-12 balanced, not 4 spades|pg||
mb|p|nt|vugraph141: whew|pg||
nt|jtr: Line was reasonable Apart from trick one maybe|pg||
nt|mich-b: I think they may have been lucky to escape a DBL|pg||
mb|2N!|an|0 spades|nt|vugraph141: TD called fantoni s and paulo  side|pg||
nt|eggy: P will know that he is off 1 trick anyway|pg||
nt|beto: not paulo, pedro|pg||
nt|szalay: was it a forcing pass? I doubt |pg||
nt|vugraph141: pedro, sorry|pg||
nt|vugraph141: confused with pedro paulo assumpcao|pg||
nt|beto: :)|pg||
nt|eggy: so you made an assumpcao?|pg||
nt|vugraph141: heh|pg||
nt|vugraph141: wrong assumption of mine ))|pg||
nt|vugraph141: apparently some break in tempo stuff|pg||
nt|brolucius: Thin, lucky 3NT available. Oh.... they have bid it.|pg||
nt|stewball: a much needed tourniquet for the US|pg||
nt|stewball: back in business|pg||
nt|scotty: 1N shows 17-19|pg||
nt|mcphee: dble now before they bid slam !!!|pg||
mb|p|nt|hedyg: you've got to love this game when you get to see stuff like that:))|pg||
nt|csimon: do EW lead 4th best David?|pg||
nt|brolucius: Declarer can now even afford to play diamonds from the top.|pg||
nt|aap00: making with some overtr after @h lead |pg||
mb|4H|nt|scotty: Soloway perhaps could not open a weak 2@d systemically, so he throws in a 1@D opening to jam them up, and as a lead director|pg||
nt|mich-b: Soloway taking advantage of the Vulnerability to open Very light , trying to direct the lead|pg||
nt|cuttysark: Don't expect a swing here|pg||
nt|csimon: looks like the dbl of 3@s invited one|pg||
mb|p|nt|bjacobs: 2NT will be forcing|pg||
nt|roghog: A few have missed this game|pg||
nt|mich-b: any idea what did South's XX show ?  |pg||
nt|swanson: Wonder if redbl was x-fer to NT (or clubs) or just a psyche.|pg||
nt|jtr: Good hand for 4cM in this room|pg||
nt|scotty: Some might prefer a passive @d lead on this bidding|pg||
nt|aap00: likely to be only 1|pg||
nt|eggy: Fan of stripies Bob?|pg||
nt|Walddk1: striped tail ape|pg||
nt|mcphee: yes I am|pg||
mb|4N!|nt|cuttysark: Do not expect a swing here|pg||
nt|swanson: 1@H = 5+ HCP, denies spade length.|pg||
nt|Walddk4: I get many questions about why we don't show xx, yy, zz, etc. Let me emphasize that we don't decide which matches to be broadcast. The on site commentators do, so lodge your ...|pg||
nt|Walddk4: complaints there :-)|pg||
nt|odysseus69: what was xx|pg||
nt|csimon: I wonder what Chen's redbl showed|pg||
nt|mich-b: @Cs ?  or a psyche?|pg||
nt|swanson: Probably an x-fer|pg||
nt|Walddk1: Well judged pass, will gain 14 IMPs|pg||
nt|mcphee: it was indeed|pg||
mb|p|nt|Walddk4: Low scoring affair in the USA1 vs. Egypt match: 3-6 after 6 boards|pg||
nt|eggy: well judged|pg||
mb|5H!|an|2 aces no trumpqueen|nt|jtr: She will duck this|pg||
nt|jtr: But taken in the other room|pg||
nt|mich-b: Actually one might ask why South chose to DBL rather than simply bid 3@H|pg||
nt|jtr: You want them to play again|pg||
nt|Walddk1: And India solidly in 3rd place right now|pg||
mb|p|nt|roghog: likes his Qs for NT|pg||
nt|henryb: Tough continuation here. Only club does not give trick|pg||
nt|kista: Another 14 for India|pg||
mb|5S!|an|king ask|nt|csimon: this will just barely make with @ds 3-3, but declarer must take a good view with his precious dummy entries|pg||
nt|szalay: its slightly worse contract in abstarct, but wd make|pg||
nt|cuttysark: Didn't expect this contract wither!|pg||
nt|szalay: will he play safety in @H? small in first round from hand?|pg||
mb|p|nt|odysseus69: looks like clubs|pg||
nt|frenske: on cc only transfer|pg||
nt|jtr: In summary The other declarer reached a position where she didnt have the entries to play a @h honour from dummy|pg||
nt|ozdil: if diamond lead or spade declarer has problem but now he has 7 tricks|pg||
nt|jack2001: 2NT shows a spade void|pg||
mb|6D!|an|2 kings outside hearts|nt|csimon: an alternative is to finesse the @s K and ruff the 4th @c in dummy|pg||
nt|swanson: The 1@S call was a relay, a 2+ step response shows spades.|pg||
nt|swanson: Getting this from:http://www.geocities.com/gerben47/conventioncards/nystrom-bertheau.pdf|pg||
nt|swanson: http://www.geocities.com/gerben47/conventioncards/nystrom-bertheau.pdf|pg||
nt|odysseus69: looks like he has to win k and play on clubs- |pg||
nt|dburn: I don't think he has any sure line|pg||
nt|jtr: She played A and other and the roof gave way|pg||
nt|Walddk2: The lead was good for defence|pg||
nt|Walddk2: Fredin should have played a club at trick 2, but it's not obvious|pg||
mb|p|nt|hedyg: best lead! no time to discard a @c on the K@S|pg||
nt|henryb: Can play S to Q, then ruff fourth club|pg||
nt|szalay: in hat case stiff K onside|pg||
nt|szalay: that|pg||
nt|csimon: then 1nt would not be xfer to @c|pg||
mb|6H|nt|scotty: Surprisin that Hamman, with 8 HCP, did not lead a @d.  He KNOWS his partner is bidding light, for the lead |pg||
nt|stewball: funky line of play|pg||
nt|ozdil: if South lead diamond declarer can play jack clubs and probably he can go to 9 clubs later, this line down 1|pg||
mb|p|nt|eggy: I guess Marcelo had denied a 1st round control|pg||
nt|odysseus69: playing on diamonds works as long as he guesses hearts and spades 4-4|pg||
nt|jtr: Another advantage of 4cM  They switch to you minor:-)|pg||
nt|kista: Passive leads against 1NT work better than 4th best|pg||
mb|p|nt|szalay: cause of entry problems: no|pg||
nt|brolucius: Yes, they play fourth best from an honour. I could not see, at first glance, what they lead from x-x-x-x. It is normal in UK to lead second-best from a poor holding. |pg||
nt|Walddk2: The defence will have enough tricks to beat this if Madala had continued hearts|pg||
mb|p|nt|Walddk4: USA2 up by 4 against England in our other live match (6 boards)|pg||
nt|davpro: Whats the point in trying to tell P what to lead? :-)|pg||
nt|dinos1: @h to 8|pg||
nt|mich-b: Maybe when you know that pd opened very light , it is a good idea to lead his suit , since he will usually have a good suit to open very light|pg||
nt|cuttysark: Quick claim, I predict|pg||
nt|szalay: 10 tricks|pg||
nt|mcphee: ruffing low a tad sloppy, but nothing made any difference|pg||
nt|Vugraph803: waiting for boards|pg||
nt|eggy: Meanwhile, Brasil are back in the reckoning, tied for 8th with China (leading their head to head 22-8|pg||
nt|Vugraph803: no waiting for El K curtain hide what was happening|pg||
pc|d3|pc|dJ|nt|yuval10: so 12 imps for Brazil|pg||
nt|eggy: boo|pg||
pc|d2|nt|cuttysark: She did bid them - you lose partner's by not leading their suit|pg||
nt|henryb: Still down 1. Needed to play H9|pg||
nt|jtr: But the Trojan Horse comes to mind:-)|pg||
nt|jallerton: There is now jusy 5VP between places 6 &11.  All very exciting.|pg||
nt|eggy: and only 20 separate 2nd from 14th, so still only Italy are safe|pg||
pc|d7|pg||
nt|swanson: After club finesse wins, he will duck a diamond, giving chances in both minors.|pg||
pc|h7|pc|h4|nt|scotty: It will be tough to guess spades here|pg||
nt|timb: the only excuse for not leading partner's suit is that it's right! |pg||
nt|hedyg: though so many dont trust their partners bid and lead something else|pg||
pc|hT|pc|h2|pg||
nt|csimon: hmmm|pg||
pc|h9|nt|dinos1: y|pg||
pc|h5|nt|csimon: you must learn to type faster Henry :))|pg||
nt|jtr: hmmm|pg||
pc|h8|nt|csimon: lol :))|pg||
nt|jtr: minigrosvenor?|pg||
pc|h3|pg||
mc|13|nt|swanson: Transfer to NT, I think. 1NT would be x-fer to clubs.  (Wouldn't raise 2@C to 3@C if he had already bid the suit.)|pg||
nt|mich-b: I think Jason followed the standard procedure for showing a strong hand over their RDBL :|pg||
pg||
qx|o10|st||md|4SAQ98532HA2DA97C7,SJHQT975DQ5CKT984,SKT4HDKJT862CQJ65,S76HKJ8643D43CA32|sv|b|nt|al9al9: wests 7nt is questionable|pg||
nt|sartre: Jack stops in 6H.  The wheels came off somewhere.|pg||
mb|2H|nt|sartre: Easy 7NT claim.  WBridge5 picks up 13 IMPs.|pg||
nt|Walddk2: Our live vugraph broadcast from the World Championships in Estoril, Portugal, will restart in about 1 hour. Quarter-Finals, segment 1 of 6: USA 1 vs. USA2 (Venice Cup)|pg||
mb|4S|nt|sartre: The four-time defending champion needs a bit of a miracle here.|pg||
mb|5H|nt|sartre: And here comes a deal with some wild distribution.|pg||
mb|5S|nt|Walddk2: USA1 has a carryover of 9 IMPs from their match in the round-robin|pg||
mb|d|mb|p|mb|p|nt|sartre: Hmm.  An ambitious double of 5S.|pg||
mb|p|pc|hT|pc|d2|nt|mrdct: perhaps the start of Jack's comeback |pg||
pc|h6|nt|Walddk2: A stripe-tailed ape double. Very clever|pg||
pc|hA|pg||
pc|sQ|pc|sJ|pc|s4|nt|sartre: 5S doubled is better for East/West than 6S, but a redouble would give them a problem -- they would have to sacrifice in 6H.|pg||
pc|s7|pg||
pc|sA|nt|al9al9: Wbridge5 does a simulation and dbls|pg||
pc|c4|pc|sT|pc|s6|pg||
pc|d7|pc|d5|pc|d6|pc|d4|pg||
pc|h2|nt|Walddk2: penalty doubles absolutely the hardest thing to teach a computer, a spectator tells me. Is that true?|pg||
nt|sartre: Jack guesses correctly in diamonds.|pg||
pc|h7|pc|sK|pc|h3|pg||
pc|d8|pc|d3|pc|dA|pc|dQ|pg||
nt|sartre: I think defense is the hardest thing to teach a computer.  Simulations help a lot more with doubles.|pg||
nt|sartre: Jack claims for two overtricks -- +1250, not a score you see every day.|pg||
mc|13|pg||
qx|c10|st||md|4SAQ98532HA2DA97C7,SJHQT975DQ5CKT984,SKT4HDKJT862CQJ65,S76HKJ8643D43CA32|sv|b|nt|yuval10: does someone knows who's playing for Italy in the open roon? some Italian Kibitzers are very angry at them at the moment :)|pg||
nt|vugraph141: everybody dead with laugh, but fantoni calls the director back..|pg||
nt|beto: for brazil i bet is chagas - villasboas|pg||
nt|eggy: probably, but not yet entered on the WBF site|pg||
nt|szalay: what a surprise:-)|pg||
nt|vugraph141: debate is on...|pg||
nt|vugraph141: temperature rises...|pg||
nt|vugraph141: looks OK now..|pg||
nt|szalay: like this 4@S|pg||
nt|vugraph141: TD ( rui marques) notes the board..|pg||
nt|eggy: Egypt continue their gr8 performance so far - 15 up vs USA after 7|pg||
nt|beto: whta they re claiming?|pg||
nt|vugraph141: dunno for sure..|pg||
nt|vugraph141: break in tempo delivering UI, seems, but i cannot see where|pg||
nt|scotty: Hamman failed to keep a H winner|pg||
nt|frenske: for a well deserved imp|pg||
nt|lesniak: or soloway i diamond more|pg||
nt|dinos1: but he cdnt pitch @s|pg||
nt|cuttysark: Not mine. Not for long anyway!|pg||
nt|hedyg: agree Liz:)|pg||
nt|hedyg: beautiful  hand in S|pg||
nt|davpro: N has got 2 aces on this one...will he see the full value of them?|pg||
nt|hedyg: looks like a fine 4@h|pg||
nt|hedyg: also fine 3nt|pg||
nt|desert: would prefer to play 3N ;-)|pg||
nt|henryb: Both make 5 on friendly lie of cards|pg||
nt|Zmud99: pause here|pg||
nt|hedyg: smokers?|pg||
nt|hedyg: Dano smokes|pg||
nt|Zmud99: here we go....|pg||
nt|henryb: Swedes double their lead|pg||
nt|dburn: If they carry on doing that, they should win by 2,047 IMPs|pg||
nt|nickf: good prediction|pg||
nt|szalay: he doesnt time for @D duck: opps could take 4 @Cs then|pg||
nt|szalay: doesnt have time|pg||
nt|Zmud99: pause here|pg||
nt|nickf: in the closed room on this board, North bid 5@D over 4@S|pg||
nt|nickf: after south had opened @D|pg||
nt|szalay: and what is the final contract?|pg||
nt|nickf: here?|pg||
nt|nickf: 4@s probably|pg||
nt|roghog: A couple of 1190s on this one in the other matches|pg||
nt|Walddk2: Our next match, in 2½ hours from now, will feature China and England (Venice Cup, women). Then a bonus match simulatenously: USA2 vs. New Zealand (Bermuda Bowl)|pg||
nt|roghog: 4@sX + 2 !!|pg||
nt|szalay: 6@S makes for @D lead, down for @H, I guess|pg||
nt|Zmud99: here we go|pg||
nt|odysseus69: another 1imp|pg||
nt|odysseus69: 1 spade|pg||
nt|jtr: Very wise for N/S not to attempt 4@h this time:-)|pg||
nt|mich-b: undo|pg||
nt|scotty: a dangerous generalization|pg||
nt|gerben42: did Madala huddle over @C5?|pg||
nt|bjacobs: This set is a cure for insomnia|pg||
nt|Vugraph803: resuming|pg||
nt|eggy: something for his nerves I should imagine|pg||
mb|2H|nt|csimon: in 3nt you have the luxury of playing for @hK singl offside if @ds prove 5-2 in W|pg||
nt|hedyg: takeoff!|pg||
nt|csimon: women are more honest than men Tommy :)))) - I threw that in for argument's sake :)))|pg||
nt|kista: Another slam here|pg||
nt|mcphee: possible 6@H|pg||
mb|4S|nt|jtr: Operator pased out maybe lol|pg||
nt|eggy: Just what Egypt could do without|pg||
nt|mcphee: good beginning with S opening|pg||
mb|p|nt|vugraph141: heavy climate provoked disconnection heh|pg||
nt|beto: :)|pg||
nt|mich-b: sometimes one tends to "go easy" when he can see they have 9 tricks in 3NT ...|pg||
nt|hedyg: you look at your cards and you KNOW there is a slam in there!|pg||
nt|dburn: How many VPs is that?|pg||
nt|stewball: here we go,,,,,,|pg||
nt|kista: Was opened in the open room too|pg||
mb|p|nt|lesniak: easy 4 spaqdesa??|pg||
nt|brolucius: The best line in 3NT often depends on whether you read the leader for four cards or five. It is best to rely on the lead being honest.|pg||
nt|jtr: nooo|pg||
nt|aap00: 1 more grand |pg||
mb|p|nt|dinos1: they play mich on polish 1@c?|pg||
nt|scotty: N-S have a VERY light game here|pg||
nt|mich-b: Cant he be shortened it trumps?|pg||
nt|timb: hard to bid 6 now|pg||
nt|hedyg: stayman or not?|pg||
nt|brolucius: RHO's card of return will also add to the evidence if he/she wins the first trick.|pg||
nt|Walddk2: Yes, not the most exciting set|pg||
nt|gerben42: some managed 3NT here|pg||
nt|bjacobs: South doubled 1@S in the other room, a bid deserving several !'s and not a few ?'s|pg||
pc|h9|nt|odysseus69: makes me nervous but thats how they bid- - any 4 any 11 count|pg||
nt|scotty: Yawn|pg||
nt|jack2001: East shows two key cards and two kings|pg||
pc|c5|nt|hedyg: just bid it?|pg||
nt|ozdil: yesss|pg||
nt|kista: Should be easily reached|pg||
nt|aap00: shud be easy after opening|pg||
nt|Vugraph803: 6|pg||
nt|kista: Choksi decides to support ... keeping the @s suit tucked under|pg||
nt|mcphee: wow parnter spinters and S opts out with 4@H|pg||
nt|Vugraph803: 6@h ?|pg||
nt|eggy: Mind you it's a pretty poor slam. |pg||
pc|hK|nt|cuttysark: When South shows a big 2-suiter then cues the other suits should you not love those queens?|pg||
nt|Walddk2: I am not fond of 3NT, I like 3@S much better|pg||
nt|Walddk2: Some day I will learn how to spell "simultaneously"|pg||
nt|bjacobs: you just did|pg||
pc|hA|pg||
nt|yuval10: lol |pg||
nt|cuttysark: Yes, 3NT is a bad idea here - suggests better cards in hearts and clubs|pg||
nt|roghog: Two key Qs. You need relay precision here. I bet Muller de Wijs will bid it.|pg||
nt|hedyg: Q10@s is a lot!!|pg||
nt|davpro: One spectator wonders weather S is worth a 2@c opening|pg||
nt|swanson: Getting to the 5-level investigating slam doesn't work well here.|pg||
nt|odysseus69: might get another key card here|pg||
nt|henryb: My kibitzers think Italy will get too high|pg||
nt|Walddk2: I think it happened right now|pg||
nt|Zmud99: operator was sleeping...just awake now :)|pg||
nt|jtr: ok:-)|pg||
pc|s3|nt|davpro: I would say yes...but still open on the 1-level....|pg||
nt|cuttysark: Depends on your style|pg||
nt|hedyg: i have very low selfcontrol with hands like this and might just bid 6@d|pg||
nt|odysseus69: their games always make|pg||
nt|mich-b: Typical Hacketts bidding|pg||
pc|sJ|nt|lesniak: hearts 33 spades 32 club king oki so??|pg||
nt|scotty: I don't think so - declarer just plays on hearts|pg||
nt|dinos1: has @c entry to @h|pg||
nt|mich-b: right|pg||
nt|mcphee: I think S should have bid 4@D|pg||
nt|mcphee: however lets see where this goes now|pg||
nt|Walddk1: The first QF segment will start 1 hour later than we are used to, at 12.00 Paris, 6:00 am New York .... don't forget your hands of time later tonight!!|pg||
nt|Walddk1: one hour back if you live in Europe or North America (East)|pg||
nt|Walddk1: One more hour to sleep :-)|pg||
nt|kista: Will bid six I am sure|pg||
nt|Vugraph803: bidding still in the other side|pg||
pc|sK|nt|mich-b: he can use the 3 trumps in dummy to draw trumps, and get back to hand with the @Cs|pg||
nt|csimon: but I think that's the only vig of 3nt vs 4@h|pg||
nt|hedyg: 11 tricks later..|pg||
nt|nickf: copy it to your clipboard|pg||
nt|gerben42: dbl?!|pg||
nt|Walddk2: hmmmm a lot of overbidding here|pg||
pc|s6|pg||
nt|yuval10: A@c and back @d|pg||
nt|bjacobs: Does North have a 2@D bid?|pg||
nt|szalay: no space for Roland....he did it with 128 phrase already|pg||
nt|mich-b: This brings up an old issue , do we correct to @S with 2-3 ?|pg||
nt|jtr: I am surprised East didnt give 'false' preference in the other room|pg||
nt|mich-b: or pass 2@H ?|pg||
nt|jtr: Maybe they play strong @c though|pg||
nt|jtr: However AKQxx, Axxxx is hardly a strong @c|pg||
nt|bjacobs: that's right Gerben, Dble ?!?|pg||
nt|jallerton: 3NT is in with a chance|pg||
nt|jallerton: not 4@s though|pg||
nt|eggy: I think that is a sensible choice|pg||
nt|jack2001: On the previous board the Jack team tells us that 4H was not understood by his partner|pg||
pc|sT|nt|brolucius: Well, England are being steamrollered without doing much wrong (except on the 4@D doubled hand)|pg||
nt|csimon: I'm shocked that I didn't get 200 spec messages - I guess everyone agrees with me :)|pg||
nt|tsanders: well bid by the English ladies|pg||
nt|Walddk4: I am asked if teams can refuse to play on vugraph. The answer is no, and thank goodness for that. There is nowhere to hide. Take it or leave it, and rightly so|pg||
nt|csimon: not this one|pg||
nt|mich-b: open weak 4 card major , in a weak hand ...|pg||
nt|odysseus69: in their dreams|pg||
nt|ozdil: 4th bid will be 4 NT probably |pg||
nt|scotty: One big disadvantage of a passive lead against ANY contract, is that your partnership may never find out what suit you should be attacking - especially if your signaling methods ...|pg||
nt|scotty: aren't good|pg||
nt|mcphee: yes|pg||
nt|kista: y|pg||
pc|s7|nt|vugraph141: bingo|pg||
nt|scotty: With too many taps, declarer makes an overtrick!|pg||
nt|lesniak: sure|pg||
nt|timb: I would have bid 3@S over 3@D|pg||
nt|dburn: If South doesn't start cuebidding, they may be OK - but although he has no aces, he does have a decent hand for hearts|pg||
nt|aap00: prefer to lead suit where expecting to get tricks |pg||
nt|aap00:  )|pg||
pc|s2|nt|cuttysark: Indeed - North has shown no useful values when he has 2 wonderful cards|pg||
nt|brolucius: Agreed. Who would not want to display their skills to the world, anyway?|pg||
nt|frenske: yes verry agressive|pg||
nt|henryb: No, they play approx Kaplan Sheinwold. I would pass, here. Correct with a little more|pg||
nt|stewball: isnt it about time for blkwd |pg||
nt|gerben42: right wanted to type that too Jeffrey was faster|pg||
nt|jallerton: E/W deserve to lose imps and will do so|pg||
nt|Walddk2: Not sure where Madala found extras for the raise to 4|pg||
nt|gerben42: added 2 HCP for good declarer play|pg||
pc|h5|pg||
nt|jack2001: causing the misunderstanding to end only in 6H|pg||
pc|d2|nt|brolucius: East would raise to 2@H on the second round with a minimum 1-3-5-4 shape. Her chosen sequence promises extra values, hence West's leap to 4@H.|pg||
nt|tsanders: right David|pg||
nt|mich-b: and raise aggressively to game with any sign of fit|pg||
nt|swanson: Can provide swings either way.  This time worth -6 IMPs.|pg||
nt|scotty: This is an easy one - once E opens 1@d|pg||
nt|ozdil: Kick Back?|pg||
nt|scotty: Yes|pg||
nt|scotty: 5@d = 2 + Q|pg||
pc|d3|nt|davpro: The lead was good since it will speed the play up...|pg||
nt|hedyg: if he bid 5@d instead of 4@s Zhao might have added 1 more|pg||
nt|henryb: last chance for plus|pg||
nt|odysseus69: zero chance|pg||
nt|dburn: I guess that if 4NT shows an even number of keycards and Fantoni can work out that it's zero, he could pass|pg||
nt|henryb: Well, If S has no KC, must have good clubs.|pg||
nt|swanson: Henry, maybe we should step aside and let your kibitzers take over.|pg||
nt|dburn: but I doubt that he will do this...|pg||
nt|odysseus69: thx- I missed the 4s point|pg||
nt|aap00: well done|pg||
pc|dA|pc|d5|pg||
nt|odysseus69: not only me|pg||
nt|henryb: They are helpful, means I don't have to think too hard|pg||
pc|d7|nt|dburn: The "cue bid everything" style, combined with Turbo, is usually very effective - but when you start cue-bidding singleton facing KQ10x, it can go horribly wrong|pg||
nt|swanson: I think Bertheau should double.  Protect your teammates, assuming that 6@H will be bid at other table.|pg||
nt|jtr: KQx in partner's second suit is a little more:-)|pg||
nt|ozdil: after lead he will claim.)|pg||
nt|kista: Now what is Hampson thinking ?|pg||
nt|desert: extremely swingy boards in this round!|pg||
pc|dQ|nt|nickf: I think he can bid 2@D even if south promises 3|pg||
pc|dK|nt|eggy: I suppose even 5 is a given|pg||
pc|d4|pg||
nt|csimon: Henry points out that if E has 5@d and W has @hK, 3nt is also much better|pg||
pc|d6|nt|csimon: forgot that combo|pg||
nt|csimon: just another push|pg||
nt|kista: Cross to @h a and finnesse @s|pg||
pc|h3|nt|dinos1: do you think he will fin @c then? :)|pg||
nt|scotty: 1cJ is a surrounding play - catering to whoever has @c10|pg||
nt|Zmud99: poker face from Fantoni here in the rama...|pg||
nt|odysseus69: on a bad day- could run into 800 with this lot|pg||
pc|d9|nt|mich-b: And since the Poles in the closed room missed game ...|pg||
pc|c4|pg||
pc|h2|nt|bjacobs: South promised 4|pg||
pc|h7|nt|Zmud99: when the dummy appear|pg||
nt|mcphee: easy now he found trumps 2-2|pg||
pc|s4|nt|Walddk2: Down 2 and 7 IMPs to Sweden|pg||
pc|h4|pg||
nt|kista: Flat board|pg||
nt|Walddk1: The worst case scenario is that you arrive 1 hour early for the first segment ... if you forget to put your clocks 1 hour back. Not the end of the world|pg||
nt|Vugraph803: did not tried coup en passant|pg||
pc|dJ|pc|h6|nt|jack2001: An easy 4S for south. The match is over now. No way to fight back for Jack|pg||
pc|c7|nt|eggy: another imp|pg||
nt|mich-b: USA are about to score 10 Imps|pg||
nt|henryb: trying to go down, and possibly succeeding|pg||
nt|henryb: No. I guess she will make 8 tricks|pg||
nt|mich-b: Specs suggest that West could try 3@D over the 2@S|pg||
pc|hT|pg||
nt|timb: Personally, I would open 2@C because I have more quick tricks than losers|pg||
nt|davpro: The only reason that I can think of to bid 3NT instead of something else would be that there will be a greater chanc to become declarer...:-)|pg||
mc|13|pg||
qx|o11|st||md|1S98754H96432D74C7,SJ63H8DKQ963CAJ82,SKQT2HAKQJT5DATCQ,SAH7DJ852CKT96543|sv|o|nt|Walddk2: We had 1740 last night|pg||
mb|p|nt|Walddk2: Not a score you see every day either|pg||
mb|1D|nt|Walddk2: 6@CX +1 vulnerable|pg||
nt|sartre: WB5 couldn't find 6S on the closed-room auction of (2H)-4S-all pass, so 11 IMPs to Jack.|pg||
mb|d|mb|3C|nt|sartre: Again, a chance for Jack to pick up IMPs.|pg||
mb|p|nt|mrdct: blackwood should save the say here for NS, unless east finds a big fit showing jump - like 5@C|pg||
nt|sartre: 3C is weak, 9-13 total points, 6 or more clubs.|pg||
mb|p|nt|al9al9: 3c is weak|pg||
mb|4H|nt|Walddk2: so is West's pass|pg||
mb|5C|nt|mrdct: west should've raised|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|sartre: East being a bit brave here without knowing about West's clubs.|pg||
mb|d|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|mrdct: he's not being brave - just simulating|pg||
nt|sartre: West, with support is happy to pass 5C doubled.|pg||
pc|h2|pc|h8|nt|mrdct: this has worked out well for WB5|pg||
pc|hT|pc|h7|pg||
pc|sK|pc|sA|pc|s9|nt|sartre: Dummy tables unshown support of AJ8x in partner's five-level doubled contract; "thank you, partner".|pg||
pc|s3|pg||
pc|c6|pc|c7|pc|cA|pc|cQ|pg||
pc|d3|nt|Walddk2: And South should have pulled, but maybe "he" was wondering why he had a 1827:1 hand|pg||
pc|dT|nt|sartre: Not much to this contract.  Lost a heart, lose a diamond, claim.|pg||
pc|dJ|pc|d4|pg||
nt|Walddk2: Yarborough, no card higher than a 9|pg||
pc|d5|pc|d7|nt|Walddk2: The odds are 1827:1|pg||
pc|d9|nt|Walddk2: against|pg||
pc|dA|pg||
nt|sartre: Yes -- computers don't get a lot of practice in this precise situation.|pg||
nt|mrdct: "jack folds his cards in disgust"|pg||
mc|11|pg||
qx|c11|st||md|1S98754H96432D74C7,SJ63H8DKQ963CAJ82,SKQT2HAKQJT5DATCQ,SAH7DJ852CKT96543|sv|o|nt|scotty: Lucky result for U-S - but it usually pays to be a bidder|pg||
nt|lesniak: that was nice game and hads aprox . 35%|pg||
nt|scotty: If they push to THIS game, they won't make|pg||
nt|hedyg: the more i look at it the more i am for a strong opening|pg||
nt|csimon: so 3nt was better - so there!|pg||
nt|odysseus69: right about the double- everyone is "taught" not to double slams in case they change strains- but you have to recognise when there are no other strains|pg||
nt|szalay: but 500 save isnt a REALLY good save..I wd be quite glad to collect +500 in every this kinda hand|pg||
nt|brolucius: A chauvinist kibitzer points out that women also have to look good for the VuGraph cameras, so it is more of an effort for them...|pg||
nt|mich-b: Not sure if their system forces them to open 1@S there|pg||
nt|swanson: Back to the previous hand - isn't it remarkable that a declarer, looking at 26 cards, can find the only play with a chance, while we, looking at all 52, don't see the play at all.|pg||
nt|mich-b: but here 1@D would also be better , in a lead directing sense|pg||
nt|odysseus69: not just their system- their philosophy|pg||
nt|jtr: made?|pg||
nt|gerben42: kibitzers suggesting he also added 2 HCP for being young, but he is a very solid junior player|pg||
nt|jack2001: A big pickup. WBridge5 doubled 5S in the open room.|pg||
mb|p|nt|jbgood: Italians missed the vuln game on  9 after a light opening by south and preemptive effort by north|pg||
nt|cuttysark: Agree - 300 is a save, 500 is a sweat|pg||
nt|tsanders: this has been a well played match in this room so far|pg||
nt|jtr: @c8 at trick one even seemed weird|pg||
nt|kista: Venkat likely to open 1@d|pg||
nt|eggy: no , if you put them forward by mistake as I admit I once did, you will be two hours early|pg||
nt|kista: NS ?|pg||
nt|mcphee: easy for N/S to over reach here|pg||
mb|1D|nt|Walddk4: Welcome to another Brazilian expert: Carlos Camacho|pg||
nt|camacho: hi all|pg||
nt|cuttysark: Trouble with 2@C is that you are not so well placed if it comes back at 4@H|pg||
nt|hedyg: multi 2@d opening|pg||
nt|hedyg: undo pls ?|pg||
nt|henryb: Took 3H and 5S|pg||
nt|jtr: ah right|pg||
nt|ozdil: Greco nice 5 CL play win 10 imps|pg||
nt|bjacobs: This particular shape is appropriate for an off-shape 1NT.  Playing standard, you have a real rebid problem after 1@C - 1@S|pg||
mb|d|nt|henryb: There was a wonderful article some years ago by the Dutch saying that one should always avoid 4-4 major fits in the WC play|pg||
mb|3C!|an|fitjump|nt|yuval10: hi Carlos|pg||
nt|roghog: I'm told even the Dutch guys couldn't bid 6 on the last. A few did, though|pg||
nt|hedyg: Fu can be pretty sure its @h and probably is interested in strength|pg||
nt|hedyg: i am not sure the operator can read us|pg||
nt|brolucius: I don't know. Tony Forrester used to have some nice, frilly shirts. (Two sizes too small, I have to admit.) |pg||
nt|odysseus69: lead inhibiting - we mean to declare when we open|pg||
nt|mich-b: Well , some spectators are suggesting this isn't good, sound, winning bridge|pg||
mb|p|mb|3D|nt|cuttysark: 4@H not bound to make - West led a diamond|pg||
nt|hedyg: that gives a trick!|pg||
nt|cuttysark: THE trick!|pg||
nt|timb: USA1 bid 6@S, NZ 6@D|pg||
nt|hedyg: yes|pg||
nt|kista: Should NS reach 3NT it will get doubled|pg||
nt|eggy: I suspect North will look for an alternative way of getting a score now|pg||
nt|Vugraph803: neg double|pg||
nt|kista: What's dbl by Dagher ?|pg||
nt|mcphee: that would be t/o for @H@C|pg||
mb|4H|nt|eggy: Hi carlos, good lunch?|pg||
nt|szalay: olá, Carlitos:-)|pg||
nt|beto: great stop by the italians, 4@H depends on finding the @HQ, if possible, but no way here|pg||
nt|camacho: 4@h seems a good contract, but fail|pg||
nt|yuval10: i'd like to play 4@h here|pg||
nt|Walddk4: FYI, Carlos Camacho is a former Bermuda Bowl Champion|pg||
nt|szalay: why not way? @D lead?|pg||
nt|camacho: yes @d lead|pg||
nt|beto: yes.. @D lead only|pg||
nt|szalay: its a ver-very good 4@H|pg||
nt|scotty: Could be fascinating hand here|pg||
nt|jallerton: They play a Swedish @c system, Bill|pg||
mb|p|nt|lesniak: could thay stop??|pg||
nt|cuttysark: i imagine 3@C shows some kind of maximum with hearts|pg||
nt|jtr: Henry was right about this,  2@c would be 'undefined length' according to the system sheet|pg||
nt|bjacobs: I understand|pg||
nt|mcphee: I would have bid 3@H with the E hand|pg||
nt|eggy: and inferring diamonds as well as he didn;t x round 1|pg||
nt|mcphee: but I am a piggy at times|pg||
nt|Vugraph803: much more polluted this bidding...|pg||
nt|Vugraph803: V in deep thought|pg||
mb|p|nt|beto: y 4@H normal, italians did great stoping in 3@H|pg||
nt|cuttysark: 4@D looks very undisciplined|pg||
nt|hedyg: seems to show any maximum with 3@d relay asking which|pg||
nt|davpro: as does 3@s|pg||
nt|hedyg: "light" opening doesnt even begin to descibe that!|pg||
nt|jbgood: :)|pg||
nt|henryb: Bad hand for methods. |pg||
mb|5D|nt|hedyg: Fu must be upset now!|pg||
nt|swanson: Most players in the U.S. use 'Smolen' on this sequence, jumpping to 3 of their four card major, keeping a transfer in order.|pg||
nt|Zmud99: Fantoni in the tank here...|pg||
nt|odysseus69: 4 spades looks tricky- but ok on lucky lie|pg||
nt|odysseus69: for me they are preaching to the converted|pg||
nt|aap00: have to switch @s to defeat more than -1|pg||
nt|kista: EW make 2@h|pg||
nt|scotty: if E cashes 5 hearts, dummy is somewhat squeezed|pg||
nt|eggy: Choksi should respect hat 3D bid|pg||
nt|mcphee: he should bid 3N|pg||
nt|kista: A trump lead will beat 2@h itself|pg||
mb|p|nt|yuval10: now shift to @s|pg||
nt|eggy: tricky to find with KJ|pg||
nt|cuttysark: OK, someone check the CC|pg||
nt|cuttysark: 4@D must be a transfer to hearts|pg||
nt|timb: I have never had good results with the multi-2@D. I always seemd to find myself on lead against 3NT with no idea of partner's suit and holding xx/xx or xxx/xxx in the majors!|pg||
nt|cuttysark: Maybe Fu should bid 4@C right away, asking partner to transfer.|pg||
nt|hedyg: just says 2nt relay|pg||
nt|cuttysark: He doesn't know he wants West on lead|pg||
nt|hedyg: no developpement|pg||
nt|jbgood: for the minors now|pg||
nt|szalay: another routine 3N...but +2 is a good MP-score|pg||
nt|jtr: Going to be tough to make this|pg||
nt|stewball: Hampson or if he shifts to a @d|pg||
mb|p|nt|eggy: well would be for me perhaps|pg||
nt|swanson: Fantoni doesn't like his diamond stopper.  Might opt for a 5-2 game contract (I would)|pg||
nt|szalay: what is the 16-14 zone? +3 IMP?|pg||
nt|bjacobs: There's an interesting lead (in a small way)|pg||
nt|cuttysark: Will he play @H8?|pg||
nt|cuttysark: That card seems to be a theme!|pg||
nt|bjacobs: I think +3 is the cut for 16-14|pg||
nt|roghog: Egypt will be happy with a small loss to Italy. 8 teams qualify for the knockout, and the 4 best can choose their opponents from 5-8|pg||
nt|davpro: yes- no tricks anywhere it seems|pg||
nt|jtr: @s K goes up  Then what?|pg||
nt|csimon: there are no good methods for this hand as there are no good contracts for this hand :)|pg||
nt|jtr: lol true Carol|pg||
nt|bjacobs: But quite possibly, the same argument applies|pg||
mb|5H|nt|odysseus69: they got to 4 spades next door- maybe Japanese playing same system|pg||
nt|mich-b: 2@D would probably best the least of evils|pg||
nt|gerben42: in Precision style systems 5@C4M22 hands are awkward|pg||
nt|gerben42: usually described as balanced|pg||
nt|eggy: A little delicate this|pg||
nt|jallerton: but it swings the odds.|pg||
nt|bjacobs: Strangely, South did have a 2@H opening available: 4@H and longer @C|pg||
mb|p|nt|scotty: I guess 3@s was forcing?|pg||
nt|timb: so i've went back to playing simple weak twos for a long time ago|pg||
nt|csimon: it's a fine opening bid, especially in the context of a precision @c system|pg||
nt|henryb: If N bids 3NT, can be beaten on diamond lead and HK play to cut off dummy|pg||
nt|odysseus69: heart lead probably best|pg||
nt|brolucius: It seems that East is worried about a singleton spade opposite. Otherwise it seems obvious to play in 4@S.|pg||
nt|swanson: I want my teammates to provide swings our way with good bridge decisions, not to provide swings both ways by over-aggressive bidding.|pg||
nt|csimon: even if you could stop in 3@d - that is no better|pg||
nt|kista: That's a bad bid|pg||
mb|p|nt|davpro: your guess is as good as ours!|pg||
nt|scotty: Though hard to believe they don't play 4@s is the end, so why not bid that?|pg||
nt|hedyg: aha! supplementary notes!|pg||
nt|henryb: Too good to open weak 2 bid|pg||
nt|mich-b: I can only add that I like to play with teammates whose bridge I can understand|pg||
nt|eggy: undisciplied in my opinion|pg||
mb|d|nt|csimon: Oh, sorry - thought you were talking about this hand Hedy|pg||
nt|tsanders: are they angling for a slam? |pg||
nt|brolucius: The 1NT rebid is weak, so that would be ambitious|pg||
nt|jtr: Yes over 2@c you would play 2@d|pg||
nt|henryb: Best is to let opponents play|pg||
nt|mich-b: you could stop in 2@D probably - 1@S - 1NT - 2@C - 2@D|pg||
nt|csimon: yes!|pg||
nt|mcphee: what did you expect N to do other than bid 3N?|pg||
mb|p|nt|hedyg: 3@c is minimumin @h|pg||
nt|hedyg: i was talking about board 9 Carol:)|pg||
nt|eggy: his parthedr had anounced a heap and Wets had show short spades|pg||
nt|eggy: West|pg||
mb|p|nt|dinos1: -2 with 2 ruffs|pg||
nt|swanson: Not the killing lead, but quite reasonable.|pg||
nt|odysseus69: might have tried trump lead but no good|pg||
nt|bjacobs: What sort of a choice does 4th have?|pg||
nt|roghog: Hobsons :-)|pg||
nt|stewball: right church wrong pew?|pg||
nt|scotty: DEclarer will play @d now, I think|pg||
nt|Walddk3: http://www.swangames.com/main/Bridgecast/Rama/Estoril_2005/estoril_2005.html  for running scores in all 3 series|pg||
nt|ozdil: probably Fantony understand K clubs in Hampson after spade return|pg||
nt|kista: Yes |pg||
nt|ozdil: he has Pass hand and hi know K diamond in Greco|pg||
nt|scotty: Or at least not @DKJ and no @cK |pg||
nt|ozdil: now small diamond then and squize or and play Hampson|pg||
mb|p|nt|hedyg: this 1 is fine by any standards|pg||
nt|csimon: I know you would open this hand|pg||
nt|hedyg: sure|pg||
nt|cuttysark: They get to choose the last team|pg||
nt|tsanders: Obviously the 2@c bid was forcing|pg||
nt|brolucius: Still, I guess you might make 12 tricks.|pg||
nt|jtr: Very little upside to bidding with the North hand when lengths are uncertain though|pg||
nt|eggy: There a wealth of danger signals|pg||
pc|sA|nt|brolucius: 2@C is check-back.|pg||
nt|csimon: best|pg||
nt|mich-b: sometimes pd has lots of clubs , or a long red suit|pg||
pc|s4|pc|s6|nt|dinos1: push?|pg||
nt|cuttysark: The Multi has reemerged because of the poplarity of 2@H/2@S showing major/minor 2suiters|pg||
nt|roghog: I see on Betfair you can get 80-1 bar, if you think none of the 22 will win !|pg||
nt|cuttysark: Anyway, I am sure Egypt will be disappointed with anything less than a win|pg||
nt|bjacobs: In these setups, 4th is a bad place to finish ... you get to play the strongest of 5th - 8th.   It might even be better to finish 5th|pg||
nt|nickf: those are poor odds|pg||
nt|kista: Good duck there|pg||
nt|aap00: nice def :)|pg||
nt|scotty: Good duck by Greco - usually correct|pg||
pc|s2|pg||
nt|camacho: diff open 2@h with AQ@s|pg||
nt|timb: another good result for Portugal. Cash two clubs. 1spade and WAIT|pg||
nt|hedyg: over 3@c 3@d is last try for game|pg||
nt|hedyg: so S revalued his hand with the singleton @s?|pg||
nt|cuttysark: Yes, how can they clla themselves bet FAIR?|pg||
nt|ozdil: if he know K club in Hampson must go to Q diamond|pg||
nt|aap00: no real way to squeeze or e/p|pg||
nt|aap00: even after @d guess|pg||
nt|kista: now he is likely to go down|pg||
nt|stewball: well the @h ace isnt for sure is it|pg||
nt|mcphee: they are lucky to beat 3NT here really|pg||
nt|jack2001: 3c is a fitjump. Show 6 clubs and 4 diamonds|pg||
pc|d2|nt|mich-b: @S9 ?|pg||
nt|jtr: nah|pg||
pc|d4|nt|scotty: Had Greco won @dK and cahed hearts, contract could have been made with a squeeze on W in @d + @c|pg||
nt|mcphee: 3-2 @D and it is gin|pg||
nt|Vugraph803: C in deep thought|pg||
pc|dQ|nt|cuttysark: Maybe he should have given North the chance to double|pg||
nt|henryb: This is only way to beat 5C|pg||
nt|roghog: Specs are asking what Hobsons choice is. It means "no choice", after Mr Hobson who hired out horses, but you had to take the one he chose for you|pg||
nt|brolucius: In the USA mot player prefer to use 'other minor forcing' and would bid 2@D instead.|pg||
nt|csimon: I think dummy lacks an entry to make 12 tricks|pg||
nt|henryb: Surely not S9|pg||
nt|kista: It is for sure. Otherewise he wont be switching to @S|pg||
nt|ozdil: if he is only Q heart he must return heart he must have KQ or AQ|pg||
nt|aap00: y, but @d K, @c --> back to -1|pg||
nt|kista: Fantoni is smelling something but not sure..|pg||
nt|Walddk3: Our fixtures for the last 3 RR rounds tomorrow are: Sweden vs. Argentina, USA2 vs. Brazil and USA1 vs. Italy, all from the Bermuda Bowl|pg||
nt|kista: Defenders have ducked very smoothly|pg||
pc|dA|pg||
nt|camacho: unlucky hand|pg||
nt|szalay: i agree|pg||
nt|davpro: probably not...|pg||
nt|jack2001: A switch to club is needed|pg||
pc|hA|nt|jtr: surely throw @d?|pg||
nt|jtr: @h2 could have been singleton i suppose|pg||
nt|mcphee: this @S is not welcome, please lead something else!!!|pg||
pc|h7|pc|h2|nt|hedyg: looks like he decided all of a sudden that his minimum was a maximum|pg||
nt|roghog: So the unlucky @d lead in the other room cost a game swing. The Portuguese judged well to get it played by S|pg||
nt|brolucius: ..most players..|pg||
pc|h8|pg||
nt|tsanders: no, still can make 6|pg||
pc|sK|pc|c3|nt|tsanders: one @s finesse, then @cs|pg||
nt|csimon: unless declarer didn't take the pitches immediately|pg||
pc|s5|nt|scotty: Poles lead low from a doubleton - a good convention in international play, since some playewrs don't think to ask|pg||
nt|mich-b: In board 10 , the other table got to 4@S too after the light opening in the East hand|pg||
nt|jtr: -2?|pg||
pc|s3|pg||
nt|cuttysark: That's judgment? Rub of the green|pg||
nt|brolucius: @CQ next is possible|pg||
nt|tsanders: even probable|pg||
nt|csimon: yes|pg||
nt|csimon: so I was out of line (yet again )  sorry :(|pg||
nt|brolucius: No-one will want to face China in the knock-out stages, that's for sure. A formidable squad.|pg||
nt|csimon: need 3rd cup of coffee|pg||
pc|sQ|nt|jtr: -1 on @c guess i suppose|pg||
nt|aap00: now time for @h|pg||
nt|scotty: Now 2 down - NORTH gets squeezed|pg||
pc|c4|nt|mich-b: light openings on 11 counts are not rare these days|pg||
nt|csimon: this may be Japan's 1st major swing|pg||
nt|mich-b: they didn't open the weak 4 card Major though|pg||
nt|swanson: The Hacketts, sr. and jr., have had some tremendous successes.  As we have seen from Justin, they are exceptional card players.|pg||
nt|mich-b: not saying that it is right or wrong ..|pg||
nt|csimon: 4@s might go down|pg||
nt|eggy: oops|pg||
nt|kista: oops|pg||
nt|mcphee: uh oh|pg||
nt|eggy: I think that needed more thought|pg||
nt|mcphee: this was a very poor play from E|pg||
nt|desert: right|pg||
nt|mcphee: established 2 tricks for declarer|pg||
pc|s7|pc|sJ|pg||
nt|odysseus69: would have been more interesting if declarer had spade 10 and West a small one|pg||
nt|mcphee: I suppose there was some panic the @D were going to run|pg||
pc|sT|nt|aap00: -3|pg||
pc|c5|pc|s8|nt|brolucius: Do you have a coffee machine next to the terminal?|pg||
nt|eggy: Dagher warned him with the club pitch, if he hadn't held diamonds again, he would have thrown one|pg||
pc|d3|pg||
nt|jtr: @c not a guess actually|pg||
nt|desert: but declarer already discarded one dia....|pg||
nt|kista: 9 tricks easy|pg||
pc|h5|nt|jtr: West has passed|pg||
pc|c6|pc|h6|nt|roghog: Well, N decided he din't want to be led to. They can choose who is declarer after their Multi|pg||
nt|csimon: close enough :)|pg||
pc|c2|pg||
nt|odysseus69: 1 imp|pg||
nt|kista: Now Greco can thrpw fantoni in to get Q10 @S|pg||
nt|aap00: -1 :)|pg||
pc|s9|pc|d6|nt|jallerton: South would prefer better @c to open 2@h as it forces them to 3@c if they play in his longest suit|pg||
pc|cQ|nt|odysseus69: John is that a diplomatic way of saying you dont approve of the bidding stylr|pg||
nt|mich-b: making now|pg||
pc|d5|pg||
pc|d7|nt|jtr: ButBut the cover of @cJ was wrong|pg||
nt|jtr: Very very tough|pg||
nt|mich-b: Well played!|pg||
pc|dK|pc|dT|pc|d8|pg||
pc|cA|pc|hK|pc|c9|pc|c7|pg||
nt|brolucius: I have to rely on my wife being thoughtful. At the moment there must be something interesting on TV. No coffee for ages.|pg||
mc|11|pg||
qx|o12|st||md|2SKJ54H2DKT973CQ87,SA93HQT6DQ862C964,S872HA9753DJ5CKJ5,SQT6HKJ84DA4CAT32|sv|n|nt|mrdct: do we get many director calls in computer bridge?|pg||
mb|p|nt|sartre: In the closed room, Jack found the saner 5D after a fit jump from partner.|pg||
mb|p|mb|1C|nt|sartre: But WB5 went on to 5H with the yarborough.  Doubled and made, 15 IMPs to WB5.|pg||
mb|1D|mb|1N|mb|p|mb|p|nt|sartre: Very few director calls in computer bridge.|pg||
mb|p|nt|mrdct: the WB5 players will have a nice chat about that board in the bar tongiht|pg||
pc|dJ|nt|Walddk2: while admiring their medals|pg||
nt|sartre: It looks as if Jack's reign may be almost over, down 60+ IMPs with 5 boards to play.|pg||
pc|d4|pc|dK|pc|d2|pg||
nt|sartre: 1NT in both rooms.|pg||
pc|d3|pc|d6|pc|d5|pc|dA|pg||
nt|sartre: Friendly diamond lead.|pg||
pc|h4|pc|h2|pc|hT|nt|al9al9: The trophy is being engraved...|pg||
pc|hA|pg||
pc|s8|pc|s6|pc|sJ|pc|sA|pg||
pc|c4|pc|c5|pc|cA|nt|Walddk2: Our live vugraph broadcast from the World Championships in Estoril, Portugal, will restart in about 45 mins. Quarter-Finals, segment 1 of 6: USA 1 vs. USA2 (Venice Cup)|pg||
pc|c7|pg||
pc|sQ|pc|sK|pc|s3|pc|s2|pg||
pc|cQ|nt|Walddk2: Later we will get USA1 vs. Brazil (BB)|pg||
pc|c6|pc|cJ|pc|c2|pg||
pc|s4|pc|s9|nt|sartre: Little danger of going down here.|pg||
pc|s7|pc|sT|pg||
pc|h8|pc|d7|pc|hQ|pc|h3|pg||
pc|dQ|pc|h5|pc|c3|pc|d9|pg||
pc|h6|pc|h7|pc|hJ|pc|s5|pg||
pc|hK|pc|c8|pc|c9|pc|h9|pg||
pc|cT|pc|dT|pc|d8|pc|cK|pg||
nt|sartre: WB5 cashing out and giving up a club at the end -- one overtrick and another push.|pg||
nt|mrdct: the free download site for WB5 is http://perso.chello.fr/users/y/yvescostel/|pg||
nt|Walddk2: 4 boards to go|pg||
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qx|c12|st||md|2SKJ54H2DKT973CQ87,SA93HQT6DQ862C964,S872HA9753DJ5CKJ5,SQT6HKJ84DA4CAT32|sv|n|nt|lesniak: looking after soloway"s 3nt 3 spades was forcing!!|pg||
nt|lesniak: whole action looks strange|pg||
nt|roghog: 4@D = bid your suit. 4@c = transfer to it so I'm declarer|pg||
nt|cuttysark: But if East had @DK?|pg||
nt|roghog: Bad hand for system :-)|pg||
nt|timb: 2@H - 4@H seems to work better here|pg||
nt|jbgood: very nice defence - undeleading 2 aces:)|pg||
nt|csimon: Sontag/Weichsel have played together (on and off) for 40 years!  they are a well-oiled partnership|pg||
nt|csimon: actually, mornings like this, I-V coffee is in order!|pg||
nt|brolucius: Intravenous?|pg||
nt|csimon: yes!|pg||
nt|csimon: I'm told 3nt in CR|pg||
nt|ozdil: 3 down..|pg||
nt|scotty: Sorry, miscounted tricks|pg||
nt|Walddk2: We passed 3,000 specs in the two rooms now|pg||
nt|bjacobs: In 11 boards, E/W have declared just once|pg||
nt|kista: no sry|pg||
nt|mcphee: hard to fault grabbing the setting trick however|pg||
mb|p|nt|swanson: I predict that N-S- will not settle for 5@D doubled here.|pg||
nt|dburn: Not clear that they will find a way to 6@s, though I guess they might|pg||
nt|odysseus69: big prize if you predict full auction|pg||
nt|tsanders: David, you can always announce brb and get your own|pg||
nt|brolucius: You must get your little 'problem' sorted out...|pg||
nt|brolucius: Get my own? What's the point of being married?|pg||
nt|csimon: yes - Miers withdrew her nomination|pg||
nt|Walddk4: Who is talking about mornings? It's 16:36 on the right side of the pond|pg||
nt|csimon: this hand can produce some action|pg||
mb|p|nt|swanson: Nystrom - Bertheau have been outplaying their opponents at this table and entirely deserve their lead, if not more.|pg||
nt|roghog: To clear up a point on the knockout, if USA1 and 2 make the semis, they play one another|pg||
nt|Walddk2: Sundelin (East) declaring 2@S at the other table. That may take a while|pg||
mb|1C|nt|jtr: Lovely hand that last one|pg||
nt|mich-b: NS are perhaps too VUL for much action|pg||
nt|mcphee: good weak raise makes it hard now|pg||
mb|1D|nt|hedyg: thats long!|pg||
nt|nickf: East is playing this in 2@C in the closed room|pg||
nt|mich-b: Note that Furuta here , chose not to open the balanced 11 count |pg||
nt|kista: 4@S on @sJ guess|pg||
nt|bjacobs: unsuccessfully|pg||
mb|1N|nt|eggy: Henri, tell our boys to stop doubling or we'll be down all afternoon|pg||
nt|dburn: Mind you, if they don't bid a slam, they might get 800 from 5@d doubled if they take all their tricks|pg||
nt|swanson: Fantoni now knows his partner is very short in hearts. His hand has grown.|pg||
nt|odysseus69: but he knows that his partner knows that he knows about his h shortage- his double is minimal so maybe he should pass|pg||
nt|csimon: 'pond' - how cute Roland :)|pg||
nt|brolucius: 2@H is weak both majors (5-5 shape)|pg||
nt|Walddk4: and 15:37 in Berwick-upon-Tweed of course|pg||
nt|brolucius: No, the card does admit to occasional 5-4 shape|pg||
nt|tsanders: don't think it's north thinking, E has the problem|pg||
nt|brolucius: East does not have the values (I hope she agrees with me) to look for a slam.|pg||
nt|csimon: I have come across this convention frequently and often the opener has 5-4 or 4-5 NV, so I play 3M is NATURAL - would work on this hand|pg||
nt|brolucius: I suppose she thinks it is just POSSIBLE that West holds the @SK|pg||
nt|Vugraph803: steal|pg||
mb|p|nt|mcphee: now the @S game is lost|pg||
mb|p|nt|hedyg: strong @c opening , 1@d 0-8|pg||
nt|szalay: good stop with 24 hcp|pg||
nt|tsanders: E judged her hand well|pg||
nt|frenske: but justin 9 with a good suit!!!!!!|pg||
nt|odysseus69: lead director- dont lead hearts pd- 1NT up to 11|pg||
mb|p|nt|swanson: This is not a sequnce on which E-W are likely to be bidding short suits.|pg||
nt|odysseus69: now North can bid freely if West bids|pg||
nt|swanson: The 2@D opening bid showed 11-15, 5@D and 4@C or 6+@D, no four card major.|pg||
nt|swanson: I'm getting too old for such excitement.  One should play whatere system/style appeals.|pg||
nt|odysseus69: or even 12 I think|pg||
nt|odysseus69: thinking of xx|pg||
nt|mich-b: or 2@H ?|pg||
nt|odysseus69: not enough after 3rd seat|pg||
nt|mich-b: I dont think a XX is an option , they may open with nothing in 3rd NV|pg||
nt|swanson: I use this double by South to indicate  good hand with hearts, no suitable for 1NT.|pg||
nt|csimon: you are not as old as the 2 Hacketts combined John :))|pg||
nt|scotty: No game is very good here, but it will be bid|pg||
nt|desert: i think South had to act here....thats risky of course but.....|pg||
pc|dJ|nt|vugraph141: yeah...|pg||
nt|vugraph141: connection is so so, herve is goin crazy|pg||
nt|camacho: re all|pg||
nt|hedyg: 1NT balanced 18+|pg||
nt|odysseus69: i think north can bid on now|pg||
nt|mich-b: NS should beat this quickly|pg||
nt|gerben42: maybe if you include the hour clock change it will be fast?|pg||
nt|bjacobs: So 12 boards to catch up with PO|pg||
pc|d4|nt|yuval10: re|pg||
nt|timb: the fashion is to bid games on 24 points|pg||
nt|cuttysark: Another chance for the Chinese to find a good defence|pg||
nt|mich-b: Doesn't a Double by South in this sequence normally imply @Hs ?|pg||
nt|mcphee: very risky with a poor suit|pg||
pc|dK|nt|davpro: they stopped low|pg||
nt|scotty: I wonder what his range is??|pg||
nt|davpro: yes|pg||
nt|roghog: These guys don't bother with partscores. After all, it isn't pairs, is it?|pg||
nt|davpro: yes...both good points and bad points...points, points, points....|pg||
nt|timb: the normal heart lead sees this slide off |pg||
nt|brolucius: Yes, true England supporters will be hoping (some hope) that the Chinese East has an aberration on the deal.|pg||
nt|mcphee: and only 5 to boot|pg||
nt|jack2001: Jack is really suffering here|pg||
pc|d6|pg||
nt|henryb: 5 imps to Italy|pg||
nt|odysseus69: nearly - he remembered the last slam|pg||
nt|szalay: egypt back|pg||
nt|gerben42: might take some time here too|pg||
pc|s5|nt|camacho: seems no chance any game|pg||
nt|szalay: i think 3N was the best|pg||
nt|camacho: worst distribution|pg||
nt|mich-b: Anice feature of the system , enabling them to stop in 1NT with 21 Balanced|pg||
nt|timb: if the defence is careful|pg||
nt|mich-b: Auken thinks so too :)|pg||
nt|jtr: some double!|pg||
nt|davpro: It seems as Sabine heard you...and doubled|pg||
nt|henryb: The double saves an imp|pg||
nt|jtr: You realise we had a conundrum on that last hand|pg||
nt|eggy: and PO hasn't passed any out!|pg||
pc|s3|nt|szalay: and 4@H is the worst|pg||
nt|cuttysark: Playing a weak NT West has shown 15-17, as China did in the other room. The Easts judged differently|pg||
nt|mich-b: I agree there , John|pg||
nt|csimon: many play 2@c t/o and dbl penalty oriented here|pg||
nt|odysseus69: out of trouble redouble|pg||
nt|davpro: great lead :-)|pg||
nt|csimon: what a double out of the blue!|pg||
nt|jtr: If declarer plays @cJ West must duck; if she plays low @c West must play Q!!!!|pg||
nt|scotty: With Greco's hand, you'd like to be in NT if partner has a tripleton club, but in @s if he has a doubleton|pg||
nt|stewball: Ive noticed Hampson seems to have very aggressive tendencies with his partners NT openers|pg||
nt|mcphee: W could easily have a big hand|pg||
pc|s2|nt|ozdil: if he find jack spade can make 4 SP because KQ diamonds in on and now he must duck first diamond|pg||
nt|stewball: hes not vul here,but on the other hand he has pretty good spots|pg||
nt|scotty: Can he figure out to duck this?  hE led it pretty fast |pg||
nt|scotty: 14-16, I think so always accepting|pg||
nt|ozdil: after duck probably he will go to King spade and will make the contract for me.. Doubleton leadar can not have AJX spade..|pg||
nt|kista: Tough guess |pg||
nt|kista: Why not|pg||
nt|scotty: So if I have AJx, I should lead my doubleton, hmmm, I'll remember that|pg||
nt|ozdil: :)))|pg||
pc|s6|pg||
nt|cuttysark: Which diamond will North lead here?|pg||
nt|bjacobs: One would guess 6, if the last hand is anything to go by|pg||
nt|nickf: south will play the king regardless|pg||
nt|mich-b: Do you think South might have Dbled 1@H for t/o on the 1st round?|pg||
pc|h4|nt|camacho: may be more than 1 down|pg||
nt|szalay: here we call: 'mighty lead for Brazil' then|pg||
nt|yuval10: yes, hard to esablish anything here|pg||
nt|camacho: precarious trump holding and need some ruffs|pg||
nt|henryb: 1N is 18-20|pg||
nt|jbgood: good lead|pg||
nt|henryb: Peter will not enjoy this hand, and it will take a long time|pg||
nt|csimon: at least they are NV|pg||
nt|csimon: and not doubled|pg||
nt|hedyg: surely 2nt would be enough and if E has more than a balanced 18 he can bid 3?|pg||
nt|csimon: Sontag added a few points for Peter's dummy play (which is among the finest!)|pg||
nt|jbgood: wonder if he has played a card when I get back with a cup of coffe:)|pg||
nt|hedyg: 1 for me too plsssssssss|pg||
nt|hedyg: only 2 entries to dummy|pg||
nt|jbgood: no card yet:) mailed u one Hedy:)|pg||
nt|hedyg: ty Jon|pg||
nt|hedyg: both Dano and Papi are fast players|pg||
nt|hedyg: must hate waiting|pg||
nt|jbgood: meeting slow players can be really irritating indeed|pg||
nt|hedyg: our operator is Francisco Pereira Goncalves|pg||
nt|hedyg: a very nice very young man in charge of the caddies i think|pg||
nt|desert: allan Sontag is a fast player too....i remember how he suffered in the final of the bermuda bowl 2001 when Helness played extremely slow......|pg||
nt|jbgood: u must try not to get annoyed, not think about the time sonsumtion, and at the same time keep your concentration - a difficult task|pg||
nt|jbgood: Helness is reall not a slow player - normally|pg||
nt|hedyg: your mind tends to wander...|pg||
nt|jbgood: but he may visit the "tank" as most others|pg||
nt|hedyg: very dfficult to get back into the game|pg||
nt|Zmud99: this is not a lag !! Weichsel thinking....Garozzo sleeping on video !! Everybody laughing here !! |pg||
nt|hedyg: awwwwwwwwwwwwwwww|pg||
nt|desert: :-)))|pg||
nt|csimon: is he snoring?|pg||
nt|Zmud99: no but closing his eyes !|pg||
nt|hedyg: shhhhhhhhhh dont wake him|pg||
nt|csimon: did Alan leave the table - he does that|pg||
nt|hedyg: closing your eyes is one way of staying concentrated|pg||
nt|henryb: When declarer plays slowly it almost always means going down|pg||
nt|henryb: If don't play a card, cannot go down|pg||
nt|jbgood: this slow should mean down 2|pg||
nt|hedyg: there are players who have done this on purpose as well...very slow to make opps lose concentration|pg||
nt|Walddk2: Rumour has it that PO Sundelin was totally confused when he couldn't find his team-mates after a session. He finished before them!|pg||
pc|h2|nt|szalay: it reminds me for an advice: if all your suits stopped and don't have major fit: play 3N|pg||
nt|timb: @DKQ is overvalued|pg||
nt|brolucius: North leads a trump in the hope that this may enhance the value of her hearts, by preventing declarer from taking ruffs. |pg||
pc|hT|nt|dinos1: yes - it's advantage over nat style|pg||
nt|cuttysark: I think China was right|pg||
nt|eggy: and a few spades|pg||
pc|hA|pg||
nt|nickf: now they ech have to pitch on 3 clubs|pg||
pc|s7|nt|swanson: I would have doubled 1@H.  A bit light vul, but only a tiny bid.|pg||
nt|swanson: bit|pg||
nt|henryb: And if declarer had J10 doubleton. must cover|pg||
nt|henryb: Or J9|pg||
nt|jtr: Right Impossible to work out But very amusing|pg||
nt|csimon: spec pointed out that they lead 2/4, so double may be attempt to help partner read the lead as singl|pg||
nt|jtr: After so many years one still finds new things|pg||
nt|mcphee: N might have balanced however|pg||
pc|sT|nt|kista: But he may have no convenient lead|pg||
pc|sJ|pc|sA|pg||
nt|gerben42: the Italian West made 2@S so far only EW plus score in BB|pg||
pc|c4|nt|odysseus69: facing a passed parner at wrong colours double is dangerous|pg||
nt|mich-b: Personally I like Dbl of 1@H ... trying to be in the bidding with the @S suit , while it is low|pg||
nt|swanson: For up-to-the-minute results, Google 'Swan bridge Estoril'.  Amazing reporting.|pg||
nt|csimon: http://www.swangames.com/main/Bridgecast/Rama/Estoril_2005/estoril_2005.html|pg||
nt|mich-b: 2@S is in no danger here , of course |pg||
nt|aap00: operation succeed, but...|pg||
pc|c5|nt|csimon: not a good sign when E continues trumps|pg||
nt|brolucius: Some players say that a trump lead is a better idea when you are short in declarer's side suit. When you are long, partner may be able to overruff the dummy.|pg||
nt|mcphee: but also some risk there if partner did not have @S|pg||
pc|cT|nt|cuttysark: Tim is right - deduct a point for KQ doubleton|pg||
pc|cQ|pg||
nt|cuttysark: Didn't expect a routine lead from North, but this makes the defence tough|pg||
nt|gerben42: any bets on who this was?|pg||
nt|eggy: H eprobably thought they'd gone to dinner |pg||
pc|sK|nt|jbgood: I do not think they are many Hedy - some people are just quicker than others - and some go into some really heavy analyses|pg||
nt|hedyg: no thank God only very few!|pg||
nt|jbgood: as we have just seen|pg||
pc|s9|nt|Walddk4: Good rule G|pg||
nt|eggy: As usual, playing in the only breaking suit turns out to be not so great|pg||
nt|szalay: i had good teachers:-)|pg||
nt|eggy: very tough when the values are divided like this though|pg||
pc|s8|nt|dinos1: @d to prevent overtrick?|pg||
nt|bjacobs: 2@D probably encourages ...|pg||
nt|gerben42: we can see this on the official site later this afternoon|pg||
pc|sQ|pg||
nt|bjacobs: North knows South has club king, otherwise declarer has 9|pg||
nt|bjacobs: spade king I mean|pg||
nt|jallerton: also made 2@s in CR of this match|pg||
nt|gerben42: so haven't caught up with closed yet then|pg||
nt|bjacobs: From the other side: defence was club lead to the ace, and a LOW heart back, ducked|pg||
pc|s4|nt|henryb: Should ruff diamond, cash one spade before clubs. Then cannot lose spade to North's J10xx|pg||
nt|henryb: This way South can cash CK, then D10 and North might still have spade trick|pg||
nt|henryb: But w/ 3-2 spades, does not matter|pg||
pc|d2|nt|csimon: I mean W|pg||
pc|d5|nt|bjacobs: I think the defence should survive|pg||
nt|nickf: El ahmadi has the message now|pg||
nt|cuttysark: Yes, but North has made it harder for them|pg||
nt|bjacobs: He had his reasons for the heart lead no doubt ... a bit like an earlier board, where it worked to lead a suit into declarer's first bid|pg||
pc|c2|pg||
nt|timb: South knows what to do after @HK holds|pg||
nt|bjacobs: North perhaps pictured split diamond honours with E/W, and didn't want to throw a trick with a diamond lead|pg||
nt|bjacobs: Sorry, diamond lead to the ace, but the same effect|pg||
pc|d7|pc|d8|nt|roghog: Yang and Dai are 6th on the Butler, and they didn't fancy pushing non-vul|pg||
nt|henryb: If I were playing opposite 18-19, would pass 1N hoping 2N goes down|pg||
nt|bjacobs: Having said all that, I do think that a diamond lead is wise ... sometimes you can over-analyze these situations|pg||
nt|cuttysark: When the obvious works, the devious looks silly|pg||
nt|jtr: Unlucky hand for canada really|pg||
nt|ozdil: lead from doubleton 10X can loose the tricks, if I have AJX trumps generaly I try to lead more safety:)|pg||
nt|mcphee: but I think N should appreciate S has an opening bid|pg||
nt|kista: right .. South should have bid .. but I think Venkat is playing SAFE|pg||
nt|desert: the opps have 9 Hearts so south has good chances to locate a fit. And his pd wont be broke.......|pg||
pc|h3|pc|dA|pg||
nt|hedyg: lol|pg||
nt|nickf: yes but a diamond lead wasnt clear cut either, I have sympathy for the heart lead|pg||
pc|h8|nt|eggy: He may get this right for -1, has a complete count I think|pg||
nt|vugraph141: still tanking...|pg||
nt|szalay: i doubt West ruffed with Q from Qx|pg||
nt|vugraph141: screen down, fulvio inquiring...|pg||
nt|vugraph141: up now..|pg||
nt|vugraph141: down again lol|pg||
nt|vugraph141: up..|pg||
pc|c7|pc|hQ|pc|h5|pg||
nt|hedyg: stayman not unreasonable with 4 4 in majors|pg||
nt|Walddk2: Our other 2 matches today will feature China vs. England, VC (Women, 15.00 Paris, 9 am New York) and Japan vs. England, BB (18.30 Paris, 12:30 pm New York) ... and then a bonus ...|pg||
nt|Walddk2: match in the next round (in 2 hours and 15 minutes): USA2 vs. New Zealand (BB) |pg||
nt|jallerton: claim|pg||
pc|dQ|pc|h7|nt|scotty: Maybe they play their vul system in 3rd seat|pg||
nt|scotty: he made a lot of tricks|pg||
pc|c3|pc|d3|pg||
pc|c6|pc|cJ|pc|cA|pc|c8|pg||
pc|hK|nt|timb: maybe they upgrade 14s to 15 frequently too|pg||
pc|d9|nt|cuttysark: And the match is tied|pg||
nt|bjacobs: South awake ... up with @DK|pg||
pc|h6|pc|h9|pg||
pc|hJ|pc|dT|pc|c9|pc|cK|pg||
pg||
qx|o13|st||md|3SAQ53HAQ7DJT2CJT5,S87HKJ43DK6CKQ943,SKT62HT2DA954CA82,SJ94H9865DQ873C76|sv|b|mb|p|mb|p|mb|1C|mb|p|mb|1S|mb|p|mb|2S|mb|p|mb|2N!|an|relay|nt|sartre: Jack's 2NT bid is a relay, showing 10+ total points.|pg||
mb|p|nt|sartre: Jack's 3S shows 4 or more spades and slightly stronger than a minimum.|pg||
nt|mrdct: it's all in french, but there is an english help file|pg||
mb|3S!|an|4s + not bare minimum|mb|p|mb|4S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|c7|nt|sartre: 4S in both rooms -- not an easy contract.|pg||
nt|Walddk2: On this layout the contract can be made double dummy|pg||
pc|cT|pc|cQ|nt|Walddk2: Let's see if Jack figures it out|pg||
pc|cA|pg||
pc|s2|pc|s4|pc|sQ|pc|s8|pg||
pc|s3|pc|s7|pc|sK|pc|s9|pg||
pc|s6|pc|sJ|nt|sartre: 4H lead in the closed room makes it easy for WBridge5.|pg||
pc|sA|pc|h4|pg||
pc|dT|pc|dK|nt|Walddk2: I think he went down at trick 1|pg||
pc|dA|pc|d7|pg||
pc|d4|nt|Walddk2: He should have ducked the @CQ|pg||
pc|dQ|pc|d2|pc|d6|pg||
pc|c6|pc|cJ|pc|cK|pc|c2|pg||
pc|c9|pc|c8|nt|sartre: West is endplayed.|pg||
pc|d3|pc|c5|pg||
nt|sartre: West cashes a club, but gives up a trick on any exit.|pg||
pc|c4|pc|h2|pc|d8|pc|s5|pg||
pc|dJ|pc|h3|pc|d5|pc|h5|pg||
nt|sartre: The ruff-and-slough is declarer's tenth trick.|pg||
mc|10|pg||
qx|c13|st||md|3SAQ53HAQ7DJT2CJT5,S87HKJ43DK6CKQ943,SKT62HT2DA954CA82,SJ94H9865DQ873C76|sv|b|nt|eggy: thanks you kibs .. I win 236 cokes|pg||
nt|szalay: its a very good 6@H|pg||
nt|beto: brazil bid and made it after a @SJ lead|pg||
nt|davpro: How many opening hands have we got here?|pg||
nt|scotty: none?|pg||
nt|davpro: none?|pg||
nt|dburn: None or four is usually the answer to that|pg||
nt|davpro: Hi David. Where did you come from? :-))|pg||
nt|dburn: I have been in Estoril all the time|pg||
nt|davpro: nice. :)|pg||
nt|mich-b: A systemic 5 IMPs for Poland ..|pg||
nt|mich-b: The closed room auction confirms your views |pg||
nt|cuttysark: Sorry - the Chinese opener is 13-15, so pass is clear!|pg||
nt|csimon: strangely, they reached 3nt in the CR also|pg||
nt|cuttysark: 8 boards left - are we tight for time?|pg||
nt|cuttysark: Guess we started late|pg||
nt|brolucius: No, it is very annoying for defenders when they lead a trump and declarer plays another trump. I usually do that, as declarer, even when it costs me a trick.|pg||
nt|mich-b: this looks exciting!|pg||
nt|frenske: misfits here|pg||
nt|mich-b: 3@S -  P - P - ?|pg||
nt|csimon: now a REAL slam hand|pg||
nt|davpro: sonething slammish here|pg||
nt|jtr: not in @ss though|pg||
nt|csimon: but NOT in @ss|pg||
nt|davpro: something even|pg||
nt|bjacobs: So E/W still haven't made a contract ... maybe this hand|pg||
nt|gerben42: slam time|pg||
nt|mcphee: that sort of pre-emptive postion falls back to the first passed hand|pg||
nt|eggy: A bit of pressure relieved on Egypt|pg||
mb|1D|nt|camacho: how play without that?|pg||
nt|dburn: Well, if your system gains you 5 IMPs every time you pass a board out, maybe you should just pass throughout|pg||
mb|p|nt|dburn: That would tend to simplify matters|pg||
nt|hedyg: this might just be the pair to not get too high..|pg||
nt|hedyg: got a nicer lead|pg||
nt|swanson: It is going to be tough for the West hand to stop below the 5 level.|pg||
nt|mich-b: is 4@H enough ?  or ?|pg||
nt|gerben42: looks like someone finally woke up the dealer|pg||
mb|1S|nt|hedyg: 1@s?|pg||
nt|csimon: lol :)))  the aggravation factor!|pg||
nt|brolucius: So underrated|pg||
nt|frenske: 5@h?????|pg||
nt|mich-b: I would try 5@H ...|pg||
nt|csimon: wouldn't that be looking for @s control?|pg||
nt|kista: Yes other leads if they seem safer :)|pg||
mb|1N!|an|4H + 5C|nt|mich-b: I meant board 12 David .. :)|pg||
nt|hedyg: hmm|pg||
nt|henryb: Dutch lead is 65-0, Russia leads USA1 by 13. England in virtual tie |pg||
nt|szalay: they wd stick to 3N|pg||
nt|nickf: i think they get 3 hours for 20 bds|pg||
nt|cuttysark: 2hours50 minutes|pg||
nt|nickf: right|pg||
nt|roghog: very generous|pg||
nt|nickf: but the match started at 10 past the hour|pg||
nt|swanson: 4@S seems reasonable to me.|pg||
nt|mich-b: The key for reaching slam, is focusing on @Hs rather than @Ss|pg||
nt|jtr: Oh for an old fashioned force with the South hand|pg||
nt|scotty: I don't think Nunes's @d lead would have been everyone's choice, even on this hand|pg||
nt|aap00: 4nt?|pg||
nt|kista: Subhash-Tewari have found the @c ruff in the open room|pg||
mb|2S|nt|dburn: At least the opponents would be able to understand your convention card then|pg||
nt|cuttysark: Extra time for screens - they slow the game down|pg||
nt|swanson: And to Jason.|pg||
nt|mich-b: 4@S is an option , does it show @H + a minor?|pg||
nt|odysseus69: justin knows whats coming next|pg||
mb|p|nt|szalay: ruff out @D, @S hook later|pg||
nt|lesniak: nice open by Jassem|pg||
nt|lesniak: at least a winning one|pg||
nt|dinos1: has 2 majors :)|pg||
nt|hedyg: very difficult though|pg||
nt|swanson: I think it should. 4NT would be minors, dbl = 3 suits.|pg||
nt|mich-b: if this shows a @H + a minor , East will not bid the obvious 5@D|pg||
nt|bjacobs: No strong 1@C?|pg||
nt|jallerton: East is max for not opening a strong @c|pg||
mb|4S|nt|frenske: or a strong hand|pg||
nt|csimon: Auken KNOWS she has a solid suit, so there will be no question where to play|pg||
nt|eggy: They won't find it here|pg||
nt|mcphee: good raise to 3NT and not searching for the major |pg||
nt|kista: But 3N wil make|pg||
nt|mcphee: good lesson there|pg||
nt|eggy: and Egypt will be back under the gun|pg||
nt|kista: I am told 4@s was misplayed in the open room|pg||
mb|p|nt|camacho: yes right|pg||
nt|dburn: 1@h would normally be 14+, but I think they may relax this requirement with both majors|pg||
nt|yuval10: can establish 5th @d without even need to hook @s|pg||
nt|camacho: no give a @s|pg||
nt|csimon: this should end the auction|pg||
nt|brolucius: Rule of 15, in fourth position is: open when your points plus your spades is at least 15. West had only 14 here and risked competition in spades.|pg||
nt|davpro: 2NT is obviously forcing|pg||
nt|gerben42: heavy 1@D by Madala maybe he would have a rebid problem|pg||
nt|jallerton: that will make slam harder to reach|pg||
nt|gerben42: if opening 1@C|pg||
mb|p|nt|szalay: btw @C lead is the best for defence|pg||
nt|dburn: There is a theory that you should always open the bidding in 4th seat. If your opponents could make anything, they would have opened the bidding.|pg||
nt|scotty: Soloway might have acted facing an UPH, but here saw no reason to get involved|pg||
nt|hedyg: what is 2@h?|pg||
nt|mich-b: Auken needed to Rebid the @Hs for the 3rd time|pg||
nt|jtr: Useful gadget|pg||
nt|Walddk2: In the last round today in about 1½ hours we will bring you 2 very exciting matches, both from the Bermuda Bowl: USA1 vs. Netherlands and USA2 vs. Italy. Don't miss that!|pg||
nt|mich-b: to make it easy on her partner|pg||
nt|mich-b: this is not "just" a 6 card suit, these @Hs play well even opposite a void|pg||
nt|henryb: 6NT also makes on spade guess|pg||
nt|mich-b: Maybe South can Invite with 4NT now|pg||
mb|p|nt|lesniak: about 8 tricks|pg||
nt|davpro: 4 tens...I would bid game...|pg||
nt|hedyg: oh oh! famous last words:((|pg||
nt|roghog: They open anything with a pulse these days...|pg||
pc|h4|nt|beto: y, maekin 3@D 2@C, 6@H and a @S|pg||
nt|camacho: have enought entries even with club lead|pg||
nt|cuttysark: The Portugues North passed rather than bid this great @C suit - still got too high|pg||
nt|cuttysark: hard for South to stop opposite an opening bid|pg||
nt|hedyg: AK A is considered an opening by most|pg||
nt|hedyg: would be nice to have 1 of those honors in his long suit|pg||
nt|cuttysark: If you have AKxxx/Axxx that is fine!|pg||
nt|hedyg: much nicer:)|pg||
nt|hedyg: a reminder to specs: NS play strong nt!|pg||
nt|hedyg: so no way for FU to open a weak NT:)|pg||
nt|hedyg: their range is (14) 15/17|pg||
nt|roghog: Ace other @c, to set up the 5th? Bricks without straw for Fu...|pg||
nt|dburn: He may pass this, though|pg||
nt|swanson: Justin's 4NT was to avoid getting to 5@H.  Just an unfortunate hand for E-W.|pg||
nt|dburn: and it's not the most comfortable of spots|pg||
nt|mich-b: I think West should treat his hand as a 1 suiter in @Hs|pg||
nt|kista: A make on @h K lead|pg||
pc|h2|nt|vugraph141: marcelo took his pass back and doubled|pg||
nt|beto: pedro will lead a @C now|pg||
nt|roghog: All roads lead to 3NT|pg||
nt|mich-b: and try to get the level right , using any means his system allows|pg||
nt|csimon: welcome David|pg||
nt|dburn: West might have bid something like 6@h at his first turn, giving up on trying to bid sensibly|pg||
nt|odysseus69: mybe over 4NT Jason should bid 5 hearts |pg||
nt|henryb: In defense of Auken, those hearts also take tricks in NT|pg||
nt|scotty: Double would be fine - if his partner were on lead|pg||
nt|aap00: make on any lead :)|pg||
nt|Walddk2: Sundelin had a very specific opening with the East hand in the closed room|pg||
nt|Walddk2: 2@S showing .......|pg||
pc|h8|nt|szalay: so the best line: try 4-3 @D first, @S hook if 5-2|pg||
nt|scotty: Aware of this, perhaps Hamman should balance with his maximum passed hand - but risky|pg||
nt|desert: well 3N in board 12 is ambitious but not hopeless....you need the ace of heart in front of the KQ and 2 Dia tricks....|pg||
nt|csimon: maybe 2@s is a limited 2nt bid|pg||
nt|hedyg: its invite in NT|pg||
nt|davpro: 4@c can't be @cs...so probably @hs?|pg||
nt|Walddk2: 5 diamonds, 4 clubs, 13-16 hcp, 4 to 5½ losers|pg||
pc|hQ|pg||
nt|camacho: ohh|pg||
nt|camacho: pass?|pg||
nt|szalay: pass= Brazilian dream|pg||
nt|camacho: don´t believe|pg||
nt|beto: 1@H shows 14+|pg||
nt|yuval10: no way|pg||
nt|beto: no way to pass|pg||
nt|szalay: i rather hope for Brazilians 7@H|pg||
nt|eggy: not opposite 14+|pg||
nt|szalay: more realistic than 4@H:-)|pg||
nt|dburn: 1@h can be less than 14 with both majors|pg||
nt|camacho: yes|pg||
nt|dburn: Still, even facing 11-13 with 4-6, I doubt Nunes is going to pass|pg||
nt|yuval10: can't believe he'll pass, X helps it, too, he knows p has no waist values in @c|pg||
nt|eggy: Well done David, good to see you're earning your corn|pg||
nt|csimon: I meant 2@h|pg||
nt|jbgood: apparantly trsfer - and then 2 NT  a limit|pg||
nt|swanson: Nunes had shown a fair hand with his 1-level opening bid, so North could afford to bid aggressively.|pg||
nt|jtr: Going to be awkward now|pg||
nt|jtr: Maybe von Arnim can give choice @@ 6-level?|pg||
nt|csimon: 5nt ought to come next|pg||
nt|mich-b: 5NT - pick a slam ?|pg||
nt|henryb: Arnim will want to protect DK|pg||
nt|jtr: also true|pg||
nt|davpro: von Arnim is probably concerned about the @ds|pg||
nt|henryb: 6N more likely than 6H|pg||
nt|henryb: As final contract|pg||
nt|csimon: so Arnim deciding between 5nt & 6nt?|pg||
nt|csimon: choice or no choice|pg||
nt|jtr: maybe 4@c fixed @hs?|pg||
nt|davpro: I think so...but I'm wrong half the time...|pg||
nt|jtr: Or at least implied supprt|pg||
nt|gerben42: I hear EW changed their CC before tournament start from Strong @C to not so strong @C|pg||
nt|gerben42: unusual thing to do|pg||
nt|jallerton: sopped in 5@d in closed room|pg||
pc|s3|nt|bjacobs: and to 11 tricks, one would think|pg||
nt|cuttysark: Heart lead better this time, but it doesn't really matter|pg||
nt|roghog: Learnt his lesson last time :-)|pg||
nt|dburn: Still, at least no one doubled anything|pg||
nt|swanson: West could have shown a strong heart hand with 5@H, ignoring partner's wish to play in a minor.|pg||
nt|henryb: System notes do not cover this far in auction|pg||
nt|jtr: No only 4 pages lol I am sure they know what is happening though|pg||
nt|ozdil: how he can bid another with void spade?|pg||
pc|s7|nt|beto: !|pg||
nt|camacho: I said|pg||
nt|vugraph141: badamm...|pg||
nt|yuval10: what do u know.......|pg||
nt|camacho: no one believed me|pg||
nt|szalay: really? dance on the streets of Rio yet?|pg||
nt|odysseus69: i predict- east will duck diamond |pg||
nt|csimon: I agree with 6@h|pg||
nt|mich-b: 4@S and then 5@H seems just right|pg||
nt|dburn: But 4NT followed by 5@h certainly makes a lot of sense|pg||
nt|csimon: does partner know what he's supposed to have to proceed?|pg||
nt|mich-b: Aces ? |pg||
nt|mich-b: tricks?|pg||
nt|dburn: Well, he might guess to bid on with either @hK or an ace|pg||
nt|mich-b: perhaps a ruffing value?|pg||
nt|dburn: and that could be wrong, if the clubs aren't favourable|pg||
nt|bjacobs: No slam, and no game|pg||
nt|gerben42: better not stop in 3N|pg||
pc|sK|nt|eggy: Nunes has been very conservative in the slam zone this set|pg||
nt|beto: :)|pg||
nt|henryb: I am also sure, but we do not|pg||
pc|s4|pg||
nt|camacho: yes in Copacabana beach|pg||
nt|dinos1: @s|pg||
nt|gerben42: again 5minor is much better|pg||
nt|gerben42: 4@S also easy|pg||
nt|eggy: as is 4S|pg||
nt|bjacobs: I think I would win @HA without a care in the world and play a club ...|pg||
nt|jallerton: 4@s is off with @s 5-1 though|pg||
pc|s2|nt|cuttysark: Hoping East had led a cunning low club from KQJx|pg||
nt|tsanders: Notice how disciplined are Chinese are - they stay within their framework|pg||
nt|swanson: Partner, as always, is simply expected to make the winning decision.|pg||
pc|s9|nt|odysseus69: nothing out of seven|pg||
nt|mich-b: WD!|pg||
nt|csimon: good going Sabine!|pg||
nt|jtr: See We all had faith in them:-)|pg||
nt|mich-b: A @C lead might remove an entry?|pg||
nt|davpro: yes- but there will still be 2 left|pg||
nt|dburn: It might, but the king of diamonds might replace it|pg||
nt|mich-b: but then the @DK will prove to be the extra entry|pg||
nt|csimon: I'm told 5nt would be gsf in @h, so 5@s or 6@c would be pick a slam|pg||
nt|csimon: thanx for that input pangi :))|pg||
nt|csimon: pangi is Robert Tobing|pg||
nt|scotty: Nunes thinking whethether to start with clubs - I don't see why he should|pg||
nt|mcphee: looks like 12 to India|pg||
nt|Walddk1: We will have an interesting broadcast tomorrow morning. The Computer WC, last segment of 16 boards between Jack (NL) and Wbridge5 (France). 9:50 Paris, 8:50 London, 3:50 am New ...|pg||
nt|Walddk1: York, 7:50 pm Sydney. 2 tables with expert commentary|pg||
pc|sA|nt|brolucius: Well, it's all gone a bit quiet recently. We are due a big board, I feel. Certainly due a big swing to England, but it is hard to see where it will come from.|pg||
nt|henryb: I suspect North knew about DK:|pg||
nt|jtr: North had presumably denied it|pg||
nt|jallerton: @d is the best strain|pg||
pc|s8|pg||
nt|eggy: maybe 13, if they don't cash|pg||
pc|sQ|nt|hedyg: hoping for anything:)|pg||
nt|csimon: I just did the 'wifely' thing and got myself another cup of coffee David :))|pg||
pc|c3|nt|henryb: If S has DA would have bid it, with no control can't bid 5S|pg||
nt|jtr: Soe might play 4@d 'last train' as North?|pg||
nt|jtr: Some|pg||
nt|bjacobs: OK he's slipped it past South|pg||
pc|s6|nt|brolucius: What is your pulse rate now, Carol?|pg||
nt|csimon: almost normal now :)|pg||
nt|brolucius: Drink up, then.|pg||
nt|mich-b: this time all this is rather theoretical|pg||
nt|gerben42: very likely @D is best from East|pg||
nt|bjacobs: and North!|pg||
nt|Walddk2: ouch|pg||
nt|eggy: crikey|pg||
nt|Walddk2: Madala has a plan now|pg||
nt|jallerton: claim quickly|pg||
pc|sJ|pg||
nt|Walddk2: Good card @DK, must mean I have @SQ|pg||
pc|d2|pc|d6|pc|d9|nt|scotty: Overruffing looks strange - why not pitch a club loser?|pg||
pc|dQ|pg||
pc|c7|nt|csimon: England will have to outbid or outplay the Chinese for a big swing, and that is a tall order|pg||
nt|mich-b: since even 4@H wouldn't make probably|pg||
nt|eggy: surely he should have prayed for @CAJ|pg||
nt|mcphee: so long tircks|pg||
nt|mcphee: both E and W might have defended better that time|pg||
nt|Vugraph803: checked with V|pg||
pc|cJ|pc|cQ|pc|c2|pg||
pc|hK|nt|brolucius: No, sometimes you can get a big swing just by luck. It happens to my opponents often enough.|pg||
pc|hT|pc|h5|pc|hA|pg||
nt|henryb: Claim. If either opp has 5S, will show up. If 4-1 can ruff out|pg||
nt|csimon: low @d lead is a possible lead against this contract|pg||
pc|dJ|pc|dK|pc|dA|pc|d3|pg||
nt|yuval10: my computer couldn't believe it , too, and decided to collapse :)|pg||
nt|eggy: I think that contract shown is an error - shpuld be 6H|pg||
pc|d5|nt|Walddk2: Our fixtures tomorrow: Round 16: China v Italy (BB) - Round 17: Germany v Canada (VC) - Round 18: USA1 v Netherlands (BB)|pg||
pc|d7|pc|dT|nt|csimon: yes, luck is a factor in these short matches|pg||
nt|mich-b: if you look at the CR auction , I think West showed considerable restraint|pg||
pc|c4|pg||
pc|h7|nt|brolucius: Nicola finesses the queen rather than the 10, to maximise the chance that the finesse will win and she can take another ruff.|pg||
pc|h3|pc|sT|pc|h6|pg||
pc|d4|pc|d8|pc|s5|pc|hJ|pg||
nt|cuttysark: Oh well, 3 imps|pg||
nt|davpro: W is squeesed...ahs to throw the beer 7...|pg||
pc|c5|nt|mich-b: bidding only 5@H after his pd bid a vulnerable 3@D overcall|pg||
pc|c9|pc|cA|pc|c6|pg||
pc|c8|pc|h9|pc|cT|pc|cK|pg||
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qx|o14|st||md|4SK74HKQDAQ5CQJT75,S8HAJ94DK94CK8643,SAQJT3H6DJT862CA9,S9652HT87532D73C2|sv|o|nt|sartre: Jack works hard to earn a push.  Very nice declarer play in this room.|pg||
mb|p|mb|1C|mb|p|mb|1S!|an|Walsh|nt|mrdct: looks like a fairly routine 4@S contract here|pg||
mb|p|mb|2N|nt|al9al9: might explore for 6|pg||
mb|p|mb|3C!|an|checkback stayman|nt|sartre: Jack's 3C bid is checkback, game-forcing, and either 5+ spades, or slam interest and 3+ clubs.|pg||
mb|p|mb|3S!|an|3s, no 4h|mb|p|mb|4N|nt|sartre: 3S shows 4+ spades, 13-14 total points.|pg||
mb|p|nt|Walddk2: This has been a fine display of computer skills. I am impressed, and so are 1280 other spectators at this table I'm sure|pg||
nt|sartre: Off we go to explore for slam.|pg||
mb|5H|nt|mrdct: each pairs gets 2 minutes of time per board|pg||
mb|p|mb|5N|mb|p|nt|sartre: WBridge5 opened 1NT in the closed room on South's hand.|pg||
mb|6D|mb|p|mb|6S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|sartre: Jack considered this hand too good for 1NT.  WBridge5 devalued the KQ tight of hearts.|pg||
pc|c2|nt|sartre: Both programs play a 15-17 1NT.|pg||
pc|c5|pc|c6|pc|c9|pg||
pc|sT|pc|s6|pc|s4|pc|s8|pg||
nt|sartre: Bad luck for Jack here as the diamond finesse is off.  WBridge5 reaches 4S in the closed room after Jack interferes in a Jacoby transfer auction.|pg||
pc|sJ|pc|s2|pc|s7|pc|d4|pg||
pc|sA|pc|s5|pc|sK|pc|c3|pg||
pc|sQ|pc|s9|pc|c7|pc|h4|pg||
pc|cA|pc|d7|pc|cT|pc|c4|pg||
nt|sartre: Unfortunately, nowhere to put those diamonds, even with the club finesse onside.|pg||
pc|d2|pc|d3|pc|dQ|pc|dK|pg||
pc|hA|pc|h6|pc|h2|pc|hQ|pg||
nt|sartre: Jack claims for down one.|pg||
mc|11|pg||
qx|c14|st||md|4SK74HKQDAQ5CQJT75,S8HAJ94DK94CK8643,SAQJT3H6DJT862CA9,S9652HT87532D73C2|sv|o|nt|camacho: 4@s?|pg||
nt|scotty: Poland inching their way back|pg||
nt|hedyg: thats forbidden!!!|pg||
nt|hedyg: never throw the beercard!|pg||
nt|Walddk2: Our other 2 matches today will feature Italy vs. USA2, seniors (15.00 Paris, 9 am New York) and Italy vs. Sweden, BB (18.30 Paris, 12:30 pm New York) ... and then a bonus match in ...|pg||
nt|Walddk2: the next round (in 2 hours and 15 minutes): USA1 vs. Brazil (BB)             |pg||
nt|henryb: Same -100|pg||
nt|hedyg: 2@H is EITHER a strong jump shift in @h or invite in NT|pg||
nt|csimon: no tank by Sontag|pg||
nt|hedyg: no lol|pg||
nt|swanson: Rising with the ace does look like a give-up play, but East could see that an extended cross-ruff was going to take place if he ducked.|pg||
nt|brolucius: So, the light opening in 4th nets a plus 110. Better than nothing.|pg||
nt|frenske: strange indeed when p bid 3@d|pg||
nt|swanson: Another balanced assortment.  Much better than 1NT-P-P-P for us.|pg||
nt|mich-b: Some play for 6@C here|pg||
nt|mich-b: would be great if one could avoid the @S lead|pg||
nt|brolucius: In Venice Cup, five pairs out of fifteen had bid 6@D when the board was played in the Open Room|pg||
nt|Walddk2: In the last round today in about 1 hour and 10 minutes we will bring you 2 very exciting matches, both from the Bermuda Bowl: USA1 vs. Netherlands and USA2 vs. Italy. Don't miss ...|pg||
nt|Walddk2: that!|pg||
nt|davpro: Another slam...but harder this time|pg||
nt|aap00: 3d slam :) what a nice set |pg||
nt|gerben42: run across the finish line before someone notices|pg||
mb|p|nt|yuval10: 13 imps for Brazil, very uncharactoristical mistakes by the Italians this match - 6 without 2 Aces, now this|pg||
nt|lesniak: but we need more meat!!|pg||
nt|scotty: Another light game - 41s for E-W |pg||
nt|frenske: battle for partscore|pg||
nt|brolucius: A small crumb for England from the 'rich man's table'.|pg||
nt|mcphee: 7 hand to go, Eygpt better start their engines|pg||
mb|1N|nt|cuttysark: They are even slower in the other room  they started first|pg||
nt|eggy: waiting for a signal - signal was 3NT tick|pg||
mb|p|nt|camacho: hard to declare|pg||
nt|szalay: 4@S goes down with ruff|pg||
nt|camacho: yes|pg||
nt|yuval10: and a sad news to Egypt supporters - they played 7@h -1 last board VS USA1|pg||
nt|scotty: 4@s|pg||
nt|henryb: Once again, 3N easier than major|pg||
nt|swanson: The double of 1@C was 4+4+, same color.|pg||
nt|brolucius: It is a borderline slam, anyway.|pg||
nt|ozdil: he has only 2 King, bid 5 Level and make the contract..|pg||
nt|kista: 2@d opening wrong-sided 5@d in the open|pg||
nt|scotty: Pretty unlucky for USA 2 to lose 14 on wrongside - but they did preempt in both rooms - PREEMPTS DON'T ALWAYS WORK|pg||
nt|Walddk2: One would have thought that the Swedes played some kind of Smith|pg||
nt|gerben42: 11-13 bal. or 17+|pg||
mb|2H|nt|henryb: North should bid 2S or 3D|pg||
nt|swanson: 2@S is pass or correct.|pg||
nt|odysseus69: what was 1D|pg||
nt|odysseus69: 3 spades now for stopper?|pg||
nt|odysseus69: west can oblige i think|pg||
nt|swanson: 3NT is the best game.  The N-S- bidding may make it easier for West to sit for 3NT.|pg||
nt|swanson: Yes, only 8 tricks in notrump with a diamond lead.|pg||
nt|mich-b: is 3@C enough with East?|pg||
nt|odysseus69: spade lead easy to find against 6 clubs if they land there|pg||
nt|mich-b: or what else?|pg||
nt|mich-b: 3NT?|pg||
nt|odysseus69: what now for East?|pg||
nt|mich-b: I think 3NT is a fair gamble|pg||
nt|odysseus69: thats what he will bid|pg||
nt|csimon: 3nt is likely to get a @d lead from S|pg||
nt|csimon: but a @h lead from N|pg||
nt|odysseus69: will South find heart lead|pg||
nt|mich-b: Will West pass 3NT?|pg||
nt|csimon: @h lead is deadly|pg||
nt|swanson: Tough to see how West will become declarer at NT.|pg||
nt|mich-b: he does have a nice hand , and 3NT is not a weak bid|pg||
nt|swanson: Some day (soon, I expect) we will have the necessary simulations to know what the best bid is here.|pg||
mb|p|nt|dinos1: 2@c-2@d...|pg||
nt|cuttysark: Strange ongoings in the Closed - 1@C strong, doubled by South, and North bid 3NT!|pg||
nt|cuttysark: Memory lapse?|pg||
nt|cuttysark: Guess the double showe clubs and he had a dart|pg||
nt|davpro: great sacrifise though|pg||
nt|hedyg: a sort of preempt maybe|pg||
nt|hedyg: yes|pg||
nt|nickf: i think NS can make 5C here|pg||
nt|cuttysark: Or 3NT|pg||
nt|nickf: or ar ethere insufficent entries?|pg||
nt|davpro: It sure is...but it makes...:-)|pg||
nt|desert: after easts pass it looks rather impossible to find the slam...|pg||
nt|bjacobs: Don't forget the 11-16 Gerben|pg||
nt|gerben42: dbl shows @S|pg||
nt|Walddk2: Maybe Fredin did not imply a heart continuation with his @C3|pg||
nt|gerben42: right|pg||
mb|2S|nt|Walddk2: http://www.swangames.com/main/Bridgecast/Rama/Estoril_2005/estoril_2005.html  for running scores in all 3 series|pg||
nt|hedyg: XX=@c?|pg||
nt|odysseus69: sounds like diamond will be led from either side-3nt doomed - |pg||
nt|odysseus69: unusual for Justin to take a long time to bid- means very unusual hand|pg||
nt|mich-b: and unusual for Justin to select the conservative option ...|pg||
nt|desert: ups....|pg||
nt|davpro: They almost got there :-)|pg||
nt|henryb: It is, by my definition, a good slam. Cold on the lie of the cards|pg||
nt|eggy: no Smith on their card|pg||
mb|d|nt|camacho: can´t accept invitation|pg||
nt|yuval10: the good news is - they led 44:8 before this board , i've been told  :)|pg||
nt|csimon: the nebulous @d could be a problem here|pg||
nt|mich-b: Did East really pass?|pg||
nt|csimon: I wouldn't dream of passing Gordon's hand|pg||
nt|desert: pass and pass with the east hand......?!?!|pg||
nt|brolucius: East had a better opening than South!|pg||
nt|Walddk2: East opened at the other table. That made it somewhat easier|pg||
nt|Walddk2: That is an opening to me|pg||
nt|mich-b: Maybe East mispalced an honour card ?|pg||
nt|scotty: about time we had another grand - are these hands for real?|pg||
nt|ozdil: one more 7 in 14 hands|pg||
nt|gerben42: dbl transfer to @H, good raise|pg||
mb|3D|nt|davpro: or a one suiter...or something|pg||
nt|cuttysark: Some kind of rescue|pg||
nt|csimon: and indeed it was|pg||
nt|odysseus69: now they play clubs after 3d -3h|pg||
nt|gerben42: sorry 2@D of course|pg||
mb|4H|nt|cuttysark: East is not shy!|pg||
nt|timb: 3NT in the other room seems a tad optimistic|pg||
nt|cuttysark: West should bid game now|pg||
nt|hedyg: transfer to @c , yes|pg||
nt|Walddk2: USA1 bid to 6@D|pg||
nt|gerben42: support dbl|pg||
nt|gerben42: 2@H natural !!!)|pg||
nt|mcphee: n/s like to play Ingberman, or lebensohl in this position|pg||
nt|eggy: Now this looks like a good slam, so Egypt did well to miss it|pg||
mb|4S|nt|camacho: flat|pg||
nt|eggy: I'd be happy if their women do the same|pg||
nt|beto: next;|pg||
nt|csimon: must've been Meckwell in action|pg||
nt|brolucius: Not the right time to do it, with 2800 vultures looking down at you from the branch above. |pg||
nt|scotty: This is a classic situation - E must NOT make a LIghtner double|pg||
mb|p|nt|henryb: Tough never to bid those spades|pg||
nt|swanson: Oh, for a high club spot in dummy.|pg||
nt|odysseus69: system demands a 9 card suit before he is allowed to bid it|pg||
nt|csimon: 5@c is solid even with a @s lead|pg||
nt|gerben42: at some point someone has to bid what he has|pg||
nt|mcphee: 2@H is 5+ and 1 round force|pg||
nt|kista: yes but i dont like that choice|pg||
mb|p|nt|scotty: N wuld overcall 1@h over 1@c, but felt he had too many losers to enter at the 2-level|pg||
nt|desert: hamman rules.....;-)|pg||
nt|szalay: what does 2N show in your sys? asking for minor or for range as well?|pg||
nt|bjacobs: Unclear from the system notes what East-West are doing here ...|pg||
nt|csimon: another crumb or 3 to the UK|pg||
mb|p|nt|hedyg: talk about speed! Chagas has finished 20 boards!!|pg||
nt|jbgood: guess he got all the decisions then - he may be very fast Chags|pg||
nt|bjacobs: Cappelletti style perhaps?|pg||
nt|cuttysark: Maybe 2@H shows hearts and a minor by a passed had|pg||
nt|odysseus69: has to play d ace and then concede club after 2nd spade|pg||
nt|mcphee: S in a hard spot to bid anything other than 3@C|pg||
nt|Vugraph803: yes that's correct|pg||
pc|s8|nt|davpro: Something must be wrong though. In one room NS play 3NT...in this room they didn't even want to play 1NT...:-)|pg||
nt|cuttysark: Wonder what happens if South passes 1NTX|pg||
nt|timb: I'd bid 4@H with the West cards too|pg||
nt|hedyg: 4@h looks icecold|pg||
nt|davpro: bridge is strange!|pg||
nt|henryb: Have to hope South has 4H and 5D|pg||
nt|nickf: I think over a weak NT it should be inviational but over a strong NT an enquiry|pg||
nt|Walddk2: Must be a tall tree, David|pg||
nt|brolucius: Long branch|pg||
pc|s3|nt|odysseus69: he can try to  play S for 9-7 doubleton|pg||
nt|Walddk4: USA2 were humiliated by the Dutch: 81-0 with 4 boards to be compared|pg||
nt|henryb: Or South tries to cash two diamonds now|pg||
nt|brolucius: Pity they are not vulnerable (he said in his usual impartial tone). |pg||
nt|csimon: apologies, I should not have said UK, rather England|pg||
nt|tsanders: I think S may not have systemically been able to rebid 2@c|pg||
nt|swanson: Can win the spade lead, play to @DA, and lead the @CQ (in 5@C contract)|pg||
nt|kista: Agree and hope partner does it right|pg||
nt|Walddk2: fredin-lindkvist spelar så lite markeringar som möjligt, tydligen en för lite :(   was what I got from one Swedish spectator|pg||
nt|bjacobs: :)|pg||
nt|Walddk2: Meaning, Fredin-Lindkvist play with as few signals as possible, obviously one too few :(|pg||
nt|mcphee: this is going to fail I think|pg||
pc|s9|nt|cuttysark: Would anyone open As East?|pg||
nt|szalay: general solution in CAP that 3@C asking for minor and 2N for minor AND range as well|pg||
nt|bjacobs: I would open East as long as a gadget is available|pg||
nt|bjacobs: Typically, the good old 2@H = hearts and a minor trick|pg||
nt|nickf: also playing 4@d in the closed room.|pg||
nt|Walddk2: Which El Kourdy did in the closed room|pg||
nt|cuttysark: I am not a fan of opening 1NT with a 6card minor - you miss 5@C|pg||
nt|nickf: I've gone off it in recent years|pg||
nt|mich-b: this would lose to Kxx in South though ...|pg||
pc|sK|pg||
nt|nickf: as well|pg||
nt|swanson: I think now the Hacketts are headed to 6@C.|pg||
nt|frenske: i think they play 6 now|pg||
nt|mich-b: Unfortunately for them , South does have a natural @S lead|pg||
nt|brolucius: East's second pass is consistent with her first pass.|pg||
nt|scotty: N can only count 12 tricks - may need @d ruff for 13th|pg||
pc|s4|nt|dinos1: many qeens - many losers)|pg||
nt|cuttysark: Portugal are doing very well - China running out of boards|pg||
nt|swanson: It is possible for South to go wrong here, But ducking the heart has put him in good position.|pg||
pc|c3|nt|brolucius: No problem. Were you inundated with complaints from the kibitzers, or have they all gone to sleep... with this run of part scores?|pg||
nt|Walddk2: The Dutch women bid 6@D too, and so did India against USA1 in the BBO|pg||
nt|scotty: N will have an easy 7N bid if E doubles 7@s|pg||
nt|scotty: After 2@c response and 2N bid, Hampson MAY lead a club|pg||
nt|ozdil: if N asks the key cards will be more easy 7 NT for him|pg||
nt|kista: Is 3NT serious slam try for NS|pg||
nt|ozdil: or 7 SP|pg||
nt|aap00: N can't see 13th trich without @d Q|pg||
nt|scotty: AS long as dummy has @cA and contract has good play, @c lead cannot cost|pg||
nt|ozdil: probably without double Hampson can lead club against 7 SP..|pg||
nt|kista: And South cannot know about @H QJ|pg||
nt|stewball: these non lightner inferences are usually more obvious after the fact|pg||
nt|scotty: I never liked Italian cue-bidding style - all it's good for is staying out when no control in a suit |pg||
nt|Walddk3: Bocchi doubled 5@C en route|pg||
nt|Walddk3: Don't know if Brad Moss should have pulled to 7NT|pg||
nt|glen2: unless drops @D Q|pg||
nt|Vugraph803: Q@d drops|pg||
pc|sT|nt|scotty: If playing a sound opening style, you would reach game after 1@c-1@h, 1S-3@s, 41s, whereas in a light opening style, E might only raise to 2@s.  This ignores the fact that E is ...|pg||
nt|scotty: dealer|pg||
nt|dinos1: @s to K - play @c's?|pg||
nt|csimon: Chagas has mastered the art of playing in his sleep :)|pg||
nt|bjacobs: Some would argue that North is simply too strong for a 15-17 1NT|pg||
nt|cuttysark: You should be weaker in points - North hand is very tasty|pg||
nt|swanson: This is another hand on which it is difficult to stop at a making level.|pg||
nt|bjacobs: No I just get to a lot of bad 3NTs|pg||
pc|s2|pg||
nt|kista: Cant make unless he drops @d Q very unlikely|pg||
pc|sA|nt|hedyg: this will be a very good result for Portugal|pg||
nt|timb: unusual - 3NT doubled as a save against 4@H|pg||
nt|Walddk2: BB rather :-)|pg||
nt|desert: hmm i dont like the first pass....but i really hate the second one....|pg||
nt|csimon: maybe someone took away her bidding box and just left her with green cards|pg||
pc|s5|nt|stewball: italians cuebid their way to a dozen world titles,,,there must be something to it|pg||
nt|kista: N should have heeded to the warning after Bocchi's double|pg||
nt|stewball: they invariably out bid their opps in the slam zone|pg||
nt|scotty: Double of 5@c worked well - but VERY risky - what if they could play 5@c redoubled? |pg||
nt|bjacobs: Sorry, private|pg||
nt|mcphee: it may drop, but he is going to run some winners and fall back on @D hook|pg||
pc|s7|nt|scotty: Now he has a problem|pg||
nt|scotty: looks like @s to 9|pg||
nt|scotty: if that loses and they tap w, then three rounds of clubs ruffing with @s10|pg||
nt|scotty: If @s are 4-1, then play clubs immediately after|pg||
nt|dinos1: yes - this line keep control|pg||
nt|nickf: yes, it looks like an 18 count|pg||
pc|c4|pg||
nt|mich-b: a cruel hand for EW|pg||
nt|swanson: Seems best chance is to duck this, hope for 3-3 spades and club king onside.|pg||
nt|odysseus69: unlucky that South had both spade honours|pg||
nt|mich-b: they do have enough tricks|pg||
nt|mich-b: but the blockage prevents them from taking them|pg||
nt|mich-b: Same contract , same lead in CR|pg||
nt|mich-b: A spec suggests that Justin will play a club from hand , maybe it will work again ...|pg||
nt|swanson: Playing for a singleton @CK is also quite reasonable.|pg||
nt|mich-b: The good news for the Hacketts is that they will not lose Imps on this|pg||
nt|kista: Yes very risky|pg||
nt|scotty: And N suspected KJxx(x), not void, so no reason to bid 7N he thought|pg||
nt|Walddk3: They even could have and made it|pg||
nt|ozdil: Nonvulnearble 5 CL double not big risk if opps have 6 or 7|pg||
nt|aap00: normally rdbls in such positions shows cuebids, not suits|pg||
pc|sQ|nt|Walddk4: Now 93-5 to Netherlands vs USA2 after board 18|pg||
nt|Walddk4: 80+ = 25-0 VP|pg||
nt|eggy: He may need to explain it if he does|pg||
pc|s6|nt|timb: the @HJ is a lovely card for Pesoa|pg||
nt|brolucius: OK, it is only two part scores. It just seems more.|pg||
nt|brolucius: Because England are losing.|pg||
nt|csimon: no - I think they all fell asleep on me|pg||
nt|scotty: But perhaps E would not double N's suit with cards lying badly - that might tip N-S off to avoid slam?|pg||
nt|aap00: more from poker :)|pg||
nt|eggy: not any more Bill|pg||
pc|d5|nt|Walddk2: updated  hand records from Estoril at  http://www5b.biglobe.ne.jp/%7Epsbridge/psrecords/|pg||
nt|bjacobs: The extra club length, 109 in clubs, ace-rich, etc, etc, etc|pg||
nt|swanson: I am informed that the singleton @CK is 26%, other line is 18%.  I believe it.|pg||
nt|bjacobs: I was lying|pg||
nt|kista: Choksi hand too good with the @d 10 :)|pg||
nt|mcphee: ruff @H now |pg||
pc|c6|pg||
nt|bjacobs: (The etceteras mean nothing of course)|pg||
nt|mich-b: I think enough said|pg||
nt|jallerton: did the hand need signals, though?|pg||
pc|cA|nt|jbgood: 11 here with @h suit blocked|pg||
nt|nickf: just you had nothing more to add ?|pg||
nt|cuttysark: They mean 'I fancy my hand'|pg||
nt|davpro: To her defense...it did look like an misfit didn't it?|pg||
pc|c2|nt|kista: Now N will run|pg||
nt|scotty: By the way, when teams meet in the KO stage, there is a carry over from the Round robin match - half the imps if the team that won finished ahead in the RR, and a third if they ...|pg||
nt|scotty: finished behind (don't know if tied)|pg||
nt|aap00: perhaps 1/2.5 :)|pg||
nt|ozdil: doubler must have club ruff|pg||
nt|kista: Tie break by product rule I think|pg||
nt|scotty: Maybe Greco had to double because he had run out of pass cards|pg||
nt|ozdil: if 1098XX trumps he can't double|pg||
nt|Walddk2: markeringar er for dåliga spelare sa peter en gång :)   signals are for bad players peter (fredin) once said|pg||
nt|gerben42: :)|pg||
pc|c5|nt|brolucius: You should order 'free coffees all round for kibitzers'. That will wake them up.|pg||
nt|frenske: in cr they play the same|pg||
pc|c8|pg||
pc|h6|pc|h2|nt|aap00: it's stupid enough |pg||
nt|scotty: Notice this would be a great double with the @cK - perhaps we should learn from that|pg||
nt|ozdil: so only chance to Fantoni bid 7 NT and win 15...imps|pg||
nt|kista: 17 imps|pg||
nt|stewball: 17|pg||
nt|aap00: some poker actions :)|pg||
nt|aap00: 1 inspired dbl with @c K / 10 honest with some void|pg||
nt|kista: Actually it turns out that Greco's Double is riskier in practice|pg||
nt|ozdil: Bocchi 5 CL doubles won 17 imps for Italy..|pg||
nt|aap00: y|pg||
pc|hK|nt|scotty: @s to 6 could be a mistake if N had !QJ8 with doubleton club|pg||
nt|odysseus69: John is right about duck - but when South plays 2nd spade forget about 3-3- anyway it didnt happen|pg||
nt|scotty: This hand may teach the expert bridge world something about Lightner - and poker|pg||
pc|hA|pg||
pc|cK|pc|c9|nt|hedyg: well played|pg||
nt|Walddk2: That doesn't explain why she passed initially|pg||
nt|gerben42: but sometimes you have to admit you need help|pg||
nt|eggy: As long as the lead was honest, the duck didn't seem to have any point, that is true|pg||
pc|h3|nt|swanson: Still OK if hearts are 8-1.|pg||
pc|c7|pg||
nt|csimon: ok - free coffee at my house in Las Vegas!!! - that ought to perk them up :))|pg||
nt|brolucius: Anyway, England were rising high in the table, so I expect they can afford one big loss and still qualify. They have played very well so far.|pg||
pc|d4|pc|d2|pc|d3|pc|dQ|pg||
nt|hedyg: doubling his chances by playing @d first before another @s from W|pg||
pc|cQ|nt|brolucius: ..riding.. I meant|pg||
pc|h4|pc|d6|pc|h5|pg||
pc|cJ|pc|d9|pc|d8|pc|d7|pg||
pc|cT|pc|h9|pc|dT|pc|h7|pg||
pc|dA|pc|dK|nt|mcphee: surely E was not thinking|pg||
nt|Vugraph803: missed|pg||
nt|eggy: I hope not|pg||
pc|dJ|pc|h8|pg||
pc|hQ|pc|hJ|pc|sJ|pc|hT|pg||
pg||
qx|o15|st||md|1SK4HKQ985DQ2CKT43,SJT8HATDK764C8652,SA9752HDT9853CAQJ,SQ63HJ76432DAJC97|sv|n|nt|sartre: WB5 picks up 11 IMPs to seal it.|pg||
mb|1H|nt|mrdct: the link again for WB5 is: http://perso.chello.fr/users/y/yvescostel/|pg||
mb|p|mb|1S|mb|p|mb|2C!|an|multi meaning, forcing|nt|sartre: Jack's 2C is a forcing relay.  Does not show clubs.|pg||
mb|p|mb|2D!|an|relay|mb|p|nt|mrdct: a good chance for us all to brush up on our French|pg||
nt|sartre: North would bid 2S with a weak hand and long spades; 2D is a relay denying that hand.|pg||
nt|Walddk2: if we need it|pg||
mb|2H!|an|hearts and clubs, minimum|mb|p|nt|sartre: 2H shows a minimum, five or more hearts, four or more clubs.|pg||
mb|3C|mb|p|mb|p|nt|sartre: 3C is to play.|pg||
mb|p|nt|Walddk2: Our live vugraph broadcast from the World Championships in Estoril, Portugal, will restart in about 25 mins. Quarter-Finals, segment 1 of 6: USA 1 vs. USA2 (Venice Cup)|pg||
pc|c6|nt|mrdct: good lead|pg||
pc|cJ|nt|sartre: Jack is quite good at finding and playing 4-3 and 5-2 fits.|pg||
pc|c9|pc|c3|pg||
pc|d3|pc|dA|pc|d2|pc|d7|pg||
pc|c7|pc|c4|pc|c2|nt|Walddk2: Venice Cup = women's series|pg||
nt|sartre: Jack has shown its ability to discern the necessary suit quality for these fits.|pg||
pc|cQ|pg||
nt|sartre: WB5 finds a more normal 2NT in the closed room.|pg||
pc|d5|pc|dJ|pc|dQ|pc|dK|pg||
pc|c5|pc|cA|pc|s3|pc|cT|pg||
pc|s2|pc|sQ|pc|sK|pc|s8|pg||
nt|al9al9: An good display of computer bridge...|pg||
pc|cK|pc|c8|pc|s5|pc|s6|pg||
pc|s4|pc|sT|pc|sA|pc|h2|pg||
nt|al9al9: Jack promises to come back strong next year|pg||
pc|d8|nt|sartre: Fortunate to find the JD dropping.|pg||
pc|h3|pc|h5|pc|d4|pg||
nt|sartre: Nine easy tricks now.|pg||
pc|d9|pc|h4|pc|h8|pc|d6|pg||
pc|dT|pc|h6|pc|h9|pc|hT|pg||
nt|al9al9: nickf...Hans asks if you are in Estoril|pg||
mc|9|pg||
qx|c15|st||md|1SK4HKQ985DQ2CKT43,SJT8HATDK764C8652,SA9752HDT9853CAQJ,SQ63HJ76432DAJC97|sv|n|nt|scotty: brb|pg||
nt|dinos1: 3n and 6 top losers|pg||
nt|frenske: 3n in closed room!!|pg||
nt|hedyg: her chances sry:)|pg||
nt|roghog: China drifting down the leaderboard, but still just in the qualifiers. A long way to go, though|pg||
nt|davpro: :-)|pg||
nt|hedyg: penultimate board|pg||
nt|swanson: These have been swingy and exciting hands, but 93-5!!!|pg||
nt|roghog: Some have got to 5@c. Their lucky day...|pg||
nt|brolucius: And, although I am disappointed to see England get thrashed, it is very exciting to see a new nation (China) taking the bridge world by storm.|pg||
nt|tsanders: N could have won an imp, but lost one instead|pg||
nt|brolucius: Oh yes... (yawn)|pg||
nt|swanson: Basically, an unlucky hand for E-W.|pg||
nt|davpro: True...|pg||
nt|aap00: vell done|pg||
nt|ozdil: well done at the other room:)|pg||
nt|stewball: still...31 sort of random imps in the last 2 hands,,,,|pg||
nt|Walddk2: But Fredin was also the player who once doubled the opponents in 4@S, and 2 minutes later they wriggled their way to 7@C making!|pg||
nt|gerben42: after that this is known as Fredin dbl|pg||
nt|eggy: The Swan site seems to be on the blink again|pg||
nt|eggy: but after 9 boards the critical positions were|pg||
mb|1H|nt|mich-b: Looks like a typical MeckWell result in the closed|pg||
nt|eggy: So the lesson is, don't offer up hostages to fortune|pg||
mb|p|nt|brolucius: This should be a game. I must try to wake up again.|pg||
nt|Walddk4: Thrashed is perhaps not the word. To lose by 25 is not a disaster. What about 96-5 for NL against USA2 in the BB last night?|pg||
nt|Walddk4: What would you call that then David?|pg||
nt|odysseus69: 3 hearts- 9 tricks next board|pg||
nt|stewball: americans paid a big price....|pg||
nt|jallerton: a good hand for Balckwood here|pg||
nt|eggy: 6. Egypt 337, 7 Argentina 332.5, 8= Brasil, China 331|pg||
nt|desert: shouldnt he have made this playing for hearts 4-3?|pg||
mb|1S|nt|frenske: @d lead|pg||
nt|bjacobs: Well, their system card says 1@C = 16+, but I don't believe it any more|pg||
nt|gerben42: they changed system|pg||
mb|p|nt|mich-b: bidding and making a 23 point 3NT|pg||
nt|gerben42: to "natural"|pg||
nt|bjacobs: Really?|pg||
nt|gerben42: yes|pg||
nt|gerben42: really|pg||
mb|2C|nt|yuval10: oops :)|pg||
nt|camacho: what lead|pg||
nt|eggy: shouldn't have tempted fate - Egypt bid 6H and England missed it|pg||
nt|csimon: this is a difficult little hand to bid|pg||
nt|jallerton: are they allowed to change system?|pg||
nt|bjacobs: Oh, my apologies ... there's no end to the way we can get tripped up|pg||
nt|Walddk2: Yes, but a certain time must have elapsed|pg||
mb|p|nt|roghog: 8 qualify for the knockout matches|pg||
nt|hedyg: but still a long way to go till then|pg||
nt|hedyg: this is only the 10th round of 21|pg||
nt|davpro: What is the sceme for the knockout matches? Or may the winners choose?|pg||
nt|cuttysark: Seems China play strongish 9 leads v NT - he led 9 from J98x earlier|pg||
nt|davpro: scheme|pg||
nt|roghog: Winners choice|pg||
nt|hedyg: for the running scores and results of all the matches: http://www.swangames.com/main/Bridgecast/Rama/Estoril_2005/estoril_2005.html|pg||
nt|swanson: Running scores available at Swan Bridge (no relation).|pg||
nt|stewball: is this M/m?|pg||
nt|scotty: Bocchi had the correct understanding of the current state of knowledge |pg||
nt|jallerton: if so, what's th point of submitting in advance?|pg||
nt|gerben42: I once was in 4-1 fit 4@S after passed splinter, opps didn't double so we couldn't bid the making 7@C|pg||
nt|Walddk2: If they change it to natural, the restrictions are not severe|pg||
mb|2D!|nt|csimon: 4 more matches for Canada to get their act together to qualify for the KO round|pg||
mb|p|nt|brolucius: I tend to overstate, as a general rule. I agree that it leaves me with no satisfactory term for a 96-5 score. I am still thinking.|pg||
nt|brolucius: 2@S by West might have bought it, but Drury allowed Auhen to show her good clubs and now partner can raise|pg||
nt|stewball: now this is a sorta cool way to get to @cs|pg||
nt|eggy: Presumably they are very limited in what gadgets they can play|pg||
nt|mcphee: lack of table entries|pg||
mb|2N|nt|cuttysark: Used to be top 4 pick from 5-8, so 1 gets free choice, 2 choice of the rest, 3 choice of 2 and 4 what is left|pg||
nt|hedyg: 9 from any H98x|pg||
nt|dburn: Maybe not with this pair in action|pg||
nt|mich-b: Not for the Hacketts!|pg||
nt|scotty: I agree|pg||
nt|scotty: Although passing with the W hand might work also, if more mundanely|pg||
nt|desert: playing a small dia from hand?|pg||
mb|p|nt|odysseus69: this time he will lead a heart?????|pg||
nt|Walddk4: http://www.swangames.com/main/Bridgecast/Rama/Estoril_2005/estoril_2005.html  for running scores in all 3 series|pg||
nt|csimon: I would call that playing empty chairs Roland|pg||
nt|Walddk4: humiliated?|pg||
nt|odysseus69: where do they find the extras?|pg||
nt|Walddk2: http://www.swangames.com/main/Bridgecast/Rama/Estoril_2005/estoril_2005.html  for running scores in all 3 series|pg||
nt|mcphee: we must be thinking of different baords|pg||
mb|p|nt|Walddk4: Women and Seniors finished their matches now|pg||
mb|p|nt|Walddk2: Same contract in the closed room|pg||
nt|roghog: Can be made, but he needs to guess well|pg||
nt|brolucius: I think 2@S was enough, anyway, on the West cards|pg||
nt|davpro: Will this turn into a drury discussion?|pg||
nt|jack2001: The match is over. We congratulate the new champion WBridge5 from France.|pg||
pc|d6|nt|davpro: So the 4th placed team will get the choice of the best team in the lower 4....|pg||
nt|hedyg: guess J is an honor|pg||
nt|Walddk4: Only 16 boards there|pg||
nt|szalay: wd he make it?|pg||
nt|tsanders: well bid to the best contract|pg||
nt|mich-b: in Manchester|pg||
nt|stewball: pass got them to game in the open room|pg||
nt|Walddk2: http://www.ecatsbridge.com/Events/wbf/2005estoril/default.asp  for system cards|pg||
nt|eggy: he'd already lost a spade|pg||
pc|d8|nt|dinos1: better 3@c instead of 2@s|pg||
nt|mich-b: After the systemic 4 card Major opening here , EW had really no chance to play 3NT|pg||
nt|mich-b: I agree , Sergey , like 3@C better|pg||
nt|Walddk4: Same contract at the other table|pg||
pc|dA|nt|hedyg: i think it is absolutely wonderful to see Benito Garozzo playing here:))|pg||
nt|Walddk2: No|pg||
pc|d2|pg||
nt|vugraph141: uh oh...|pg||
nt|yuval10: @c lead was the strongest for defence|pg||
nt|camacho: at least 8 tricks now|pg||
nt|vugraph141: sorry, will wait for claim|pg||
nt|vugraph141: there were some jokes qt the table qfter the lead, lost track|pg||
nt|yuval10: Italy will gain 6 imps back i believe|pg||
nt|henryb: With H well behaved, Canada will gain an imp|pg||
pc|s3|nt|Walddk4: Played by East though|pg||
nt|csimon: penultimate board now|pg||
nt|swanson: Why take a minus on this hand?  No way is this good bidding.|pg||
nt|mich-b: was 2NT Game Forcing or INV ?|pg||
nt|dburn: Invitational|pg||
nt|odysseus69: INV|pg||
nt|frenske: inv|pg||
nt|dburn: but the West hand was substantially better than a minimum on the methods|pg||
nt|mich-b: InV opposite THEIR opening , or a standard one?|pg||
nt|odysseus69: I suppose the 2 10s and the club 9 swayed him|pg||
nt|csimon: there was no vig - not even a vul game|pg||
nt|mich-b: that is part of the problems created by ultra-light openings - the ranges become too wide|pg||
nt|odysseus69: the problem was 4 hearts - not the opening this time|pg||
nt|dburn: The problems created by ultra-light openings are exacerbated when East has the wasted @cQ and West does not have the ten of spades|pg||
nt|mich-b: Maybe Jason could have used an in-between bid like 3@C or 3@D|pg||
nt|mich-b: to show a better than minimum hand, though not much extras|pg||
nt|dburn: He might have done. But if someone had had @s10, we would not be discussing this board.|pg||
nt|bjacobs: Don't trust em anymore|pg||
pc|sK|nt|csimon: England has 1 more chance |pg||
nt|brolucius: Even a club lead is probably not enough to threaten the game.|pg||
nt|Walddk3: Our fixtures for the last 3 RR rounds tomorrow are: Sweden vs. Argentina, USA2 vs. Brazil and USA1 vs. Italy, all from the Bermuda Bowl|pg||
pc|s8|nt|szalay: Lauria is so good in guessing situations today|pg||
nt|bjacobs: This looks like a form of race ... N/S need to build their spade trick, and cash it|pg||
nt|bjacobs: Assuming, @HQ scores|pg||
nt|cuttysark: If @HQ scores he id down!|pg||
nt|bjacobs: Sorry, assuming @HQ doesn't score!|pg||
nt|roghog: He's seen 7 of Sadek's 15-17|pg||
pc|s2|pg||
nt|lesniak: uf,3 nt making other room|pg||
nt|Walddk2: http://www.swangames.com/main/Bridgecast/Rama/Estoril_2005/estoril_2005.html  for running scores in all 3 series|pg||
nt|brolucius: If you are hoping for an exciting last board........................ you will be disappointed.|pg||
nt|Walddk2: But it's slow going at the moment, too many "hits"|pg||
nt|mich-b: Most would open the North hand , in 3rd hand , I think|pg||
nt|mich-b: but not having a natural 1@C available|pg||
pc|dQ|nt|davpro: what did 4 of @s mean?|pg||
nt|scotty: I guess low is discouraging|pg||
nt|mich-b: What went wrong in the defense in the closed room?|pg||
nt|scotty: but he couldn't read it, whatever it meant, with the 9,8,5, 3 and 2 all missing|pg||
nt|davpro: Why shift?I was about to say that it would be easy defense for Soloway...and then came the shift...|pg||
nt|davpro: it's still down though|pg||
nt|dinos1: opening lead - in CR|pg||
nt|scotty: difficult hand to play|pg||
nt|frenske: surprise but it was a @h in closed room|pg||
nt|scotty: Maybe he should have won the @hK to try a @d - that would not have been a success|pg||
nt|lesniak: as the cards lay  he has no chance|pg||
nt|dinos1: he knows @d bad lie after opening 1@s and @sK lead|pg||
nt|scotty: In the other room, S led  heart 7 against 3N, dummy won the K and played a @d to 9 |pg||
nt|Walddk4: @H2 led in the other room|pg||
nt|brolucius: Well, look on the bright side, England will have less strong teams to play in all their remaining matches...|pg||
pc|d4|nt|mcphee: 2NT agressive from E|pg||
pc|d3|nt|Walddk2: They won't cash many spade tricks at the other table. Nunes led a club and switched to a low spade from Qx|pg||
pc|dJ|pg||
nt|bjacobs: Boy, one tiny analysis mistake and I get crucified by the specs|pg||
nt|brolucius: I am sure they will qualify for the KO's and do well there. |pg||
nt|dburn: You don't make every thin game you bid. But you may make enough of them to keep them worth bidding.|pg||
nt|mich-b: it wasn't clear for Auken|pg||
nt|scotty: Looks like a Bocchi-Duboin misunderstanding in the other room|pg||
pc|c4|nt|Walddk4: And don't forget that the English ladies are only there "by accident"|pg||
nt|Walddk4: They did not qualify|pg||
nt|csimon: how did that happen Roland?|pg||
nt|brolucius: And - don't go away - I am told that the last board will be exciting, with plenty of potential for a big swing (in the right direction) |pg||
nt|Walddk4: But was handed a berth when Israel withdrew 3-4 months ago|pg||
nt|brolucius: Yes, that cost us a bit. No-one else was willing to withdraw.|pg||
nt|csimon: maybe they are the 'team of destiny"|pg||
nt|mcphee: but it is going to pay off|pg||
nt|kista: But @h's well placed|pg||
pc|c2|pc|cJ|pc|c7|pg||
nt|csimon: we are approaching the last board and this has been quite a match!|pg||
nt|Walddk2: 32 IMPs = 23-7 VP|pg||
nt|Zmud99: thanks to all our commentators :) ....see you in 1H and 10 for 2 great matches :)|pg||
pc|cA|nt|scotty: S needs great signaling from N to find the spadse shift - though he does get too chances|pg||
nt|hedyg: maybe better for N to take A@h and play @s?|pg||
pc|c9|pc|c3|pc|c5|pg||
nt|csimon: fantastic job by our operator <clap-clap>|pg||
pc|dT|nt|lesniak: and he found that- 9 of hearts!!|pg||
nt|lesniak: on the second heart trick|pg||
nt|scotty: But it was still natural to duck the second @d - he didn't know declarer had 9 tricks|pg||
nt|odysseus69: just needs QJ9 of diamonds + spade finesse or KX spade with South|pg||
pc|h2|nt|Walddk2: Delete  +++   :-)|pg||
pc|h5|nt|Walddk2: Then you can't "hear" them|pg||
pc|dK|pg||
pc|c8|nt|lesniak: but did not belived  Mecstroh had 5 clubs so strong|pg||
nt|scotty: What was @h2 at trick one, Marcin?|pg||
nt|dinos1: count?|pg||
nt|lesniak: probably count!!|pg||
pc|cQ|nt|dinos1: N cd play @d8 on @d lead as well |pg||
pc|h3|nt|lesniak: surelly count|pg||
pc|cK|pg||
pc|cT|nt|lesniak: anyway perfect play by Meckstroh|pg||
nt|mich-b: Here , meanwhile Soloway missed a chance to Ruff a clb winner|pg||
nt|scotty: Right, and I think it is better to have attitude as a priority.  In this case, after seeing @HJ from declarer, the fact that partner DISCOURAGED the suit you led with 9842 would be ...|pg||
nt|scotty: very telling that he has a good holding in a black suit.  Then @d8 would be SP for spades.  That's the only way I can see getting this right|pg||
nt|dinos1: no entry to dummy to repaet @c play|pg||
nt|davpro: this has been going down for the last 9 minutes...could we please speed it up some? :-)|pg||
pc|c6|pc|s5|pc|h4|pg||
nt|davpro: and yes...I'm getting a bit tired now...:-)|pg||
pc|h9|pc|hT|pc|s7|pc|hJ|pg||
pc|sQ|pc|s4|pc|sT|pc|sA|pg||
nt|frenske: we forgive you|pg||
pc|d9|pc|h6|pc|hK|pc|d7|pg||
pc|d5|pc|s6|pc|hQ|pc|hA|pg||
pc|s9|nt|dinos1: shd take 2nd @d|pg||
pc|h7|pc|h8|pc|sJ|pg||
pg||
qx|o16|st||md|2S9832HAQDA62CJ953,SKQT4HJT9865DJ9C4,SAJ75HK74DK743CK7,S6H32DQT85CAQT862|sv|e|nt|rv: 7|pg||
mb|p|mb|1D|mb|2C|nt|mrdct: trick 4@s contract here|pg||
nt|mrdct: tricky|pg||
mb|2D!|an|4s, not 4h|mb|2H|nt|sartre: Very tricky.  Perfect defense can set 4S on this distribution.|pg||
nt|sartre: Tricky to defend as well, though.|pg||
mb|3S|mb|p|mb|4S|nt|mrdct: 2@d is a nice gadget|pg||
mb|p|nt|sartre: Jack's 2D shows 4+ spades, 7+ HCP, 0-3 hearts.|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|pc|h3|nt|mrdct: as this match draws to a close a few thank yous|pg||
pc|hQ|pc|h6|pc|h7|pg||
nt|sartre: 2D also denies a strong hand (say 10+ HCP) with five or more spades.|pg||
pc|s2|pc|s4|nt|mrdct: thanks to all the programmers and handlers for putting this on|pg||
pc|s7|pc|s6|pg||
nt|mrdct: an excellent warm-up to the Venice Cup coming upo in 20 minutes|pg||
nt|al9al9: Roland...thank for your time and comments|pg||
pc|h4|pc|h2|nt|sartre: Jack finds 4S.   In the closed room, Jack opens 2H as dealer, passed out.|pg||
pc|hA|pc|h5|pg||
nt|Walddk2: You're welcome|pg||
pc|s3|pc|sT|pc|sJ|nt|sartre: Ah, WB5 gives the contract away with the TS here.|pg||
pc|c6|pg||
pc|sA|pc|cA|nt|mrdct: the future of computer bridge certainly looks bright|pg||
nt|sartre: WB5 must have found more deals in which the TS is necessary to beat the contract -- this just doesn't happen to be one of them.|pg||
pc|s8|pc|sQ|pg||
nt|sartre: WB5 taking quite a view here -- the AC pitch!|pg||
nt|Walddk2: And congratulations to WB5 on winning the Computer World Championships 2005|pg||
nt|Walddk2: For the first time ever|pg||
pc|c7|nt|sartre: Again, WB5 must be fighting off a possible endplay that is not immediately obvious.|pg||
pc|c2|nt|al9al9: The competitors from around the world will continue to improve their products |pg||
pc|cJ|nt|Walddk2: vive la France   as some would say|pg||
pc|c4|pg||
nt|sartre: Wow, ducking the QC too.|pg||
pc|c3|pc|h8|pc|cK|pc|c8|pg||
nt|al9al9: Congratulations to Yves...his program is freeware...|pg||
nt|sartre: If it were a human, perhaps it would be fatigue...|pg||
pc|d3|pc|d8|pc|dA|pc|dJ|pg||
pc|d2|pc|d9|pc|dK|nt|mrdct: the link one more time: http://perso.chello.fr/users/y/yvescostel/|pg||
pc|d5|pg||
pc|hK|nt|sartre: ... but here it is something deeper.  Well done by Yves Costel and WBridge5.|pg||
pc|cT|pc|c5|pc|h9|pg||
pc|d4|pc|dT|pc|d6|pc|hT|pg||
pc|cQ|pc|c9|pc|hJ|pc|s5|pg||
pc|d7|pc|dQ|pc|s9|pc|sK|pg||
nt|al9al9: Wbridge5s play on this board is actually more interesting than appears to humans|pg||
nt|Walddk2: Thanks everyone for joining us thhis morning, hope you enjoyed the show|pg||
nt|sartre: Are you writing a computer bridge program?  Send email to AlLevy@@aol.com to ask about next year's championships.|pg||
nt|al9al9: A great show|pg||
nt|Walddk2: And thanks to the organizers|pg||
nt|sartre: Thanks to the WBF and ACBL and all the sponsors.|pg||
nt|al9al9: The WBF and ACBL support this championship|pg||
nt|Walddk2: Back in Estoril we are in about 15 minutes with USA1 vs. USA2 (women)|pg||
nt|sartre: Thanks to Alan Truscott and celebration of his memory in gratitude for his support of this event.|pg||
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qx|c16|st||md|2S9832HAQDA62CJ953,SKQT4HJT9865DJ9C4,SAJ75HK74DK743CK7,S6H32DQT85CAQT862|sv|e|nt|davpro: Perhaps hte defense is as tired as me?|pg||
nt|dinos1: take 2 @d - and only then play @s|pg||
nt|mich-b: Another great result by MeckWell in the CR!|pg||
nt|frenske: he saved 3imps|pg||
nt|dburn: Well, if it's going down for 9 minutes and makes in the 10th, perhaps they should only score 11 for it rather than 110|pg||
nt|davpro: :)|pg||
nt|mich-b: The 1NT opening kept South quiet, and attracted a @H lead|pg||
nt|cuttysark: First 1 imp swing! QUite unusual|pg||
nt|hedyg: :))|pg||
nt|hedyg: last board up now for this match! in Seniors and Ladies only 16 boards /match|pg||
nt|Walddk4: Our matches tomorrow are: Egypt v Italy (BB), China v England (VC) and Japan v England (BB). So our first match from the women's series at 15.00 Paris, 9:00 am New York|pg||
nt|roghog: Even LL can't guess that one :-(|pg||
nt|nickf: what happened ?|pg||
nt|Walddk4: Israel withdrew because of interior "political" problems; nothing to do with world politics|pg||
nt|brolucius: Another minute crumb. "Thank you, my Lord."|pg||
nt|Walddk2: This is interesting|pg||
nt|Walddk2: Gold and Townsend bid all the way to 6@D|pg||
nt|Walddk2: And will make it|pg||
nt|mcphee: a come back being mounted|pg||
nt|desert: as the heart queen is third, 6 Cl can be made...at least double dummy (not finding the doubleton dia queen)|pg||
nt|desert: no sorry...blind spot|pg||
nt|kista: No entries to ruff out|pg||
mb|2H|nt|davpro: Or better for him to sit back and relax...there will be other boards where he can make use of thinking...:-)|pg||
nt|hedyg: lol Dave|pg||
nt|cuttysark: Not so many now, and this does not look swingy|pg||
nt|csimon: is there a KO phase for Seniors or just RR?|pg||
nt|hedyg: Thanks a lot to Francisco Pereira Goncalves, our operator at Estoril. Fine job!|pg||
nt|hedyg: knockout i think for the 1st time|pg||
nt|mich-b: and the lead??|pg||
nt|Walddk2: A spade was led|pg||
nt|jallerton: we have now overtaken the CR as P-O has to bid the East hand|pg||
nt|mcphee: e/w may try 3N here|pg||
nt|Vugraph803: after big thought|pg||
nt|kista: 3NT will make on @s lead|pg||
nt|mcphee: how?|pg||
nt|kista: but 4@h by South is only one off|pg||
mb|p|nt|dburn: 4@h and 5@c both have some sort of chance - but may not be so easy to reach either|pg||
nt|cuttysark: They play very fast sometimes - guess he took the heart finesse|pg||
nt|csimon: yes, I can see some potential here David|pg||
mb|p|nt|dinos1: and what you wd lead after 1N-3N?|pg||
nt|mich-b: Anyone has any sympathy for the 1NT opening by RodWell ?|pg||
nt|dinos1: @s seems best|pg||
nt|cuttysark: Though on reflection thay have done well to make 3NT|pg||
nt|hedyg: Also thanks to my excellent co-commentators Carol Simon, Henry Berthe, Martin Wüst and Jon Sveindal.|pg||
nt|csimon: thx to the WBF Jose Damiani and my terrific co-commentators and all you wonderful specs|pg||
nt|brolucius: South overcalled 1NT over 1@S at the other table, with a Double getting the commentators' vote.|pg||
nt|csimon: and ROLAND!!!|pg||
nt|csimon: and BBO|pg||
nt|desert: prefer X by far....|pg||
nt|mich-b: very far|pg||
nt|aap00: 4@h ?|pg||
nt|jallerton: ..on board 15|pg||
mb|p|nt|csimon: I'm glad they think the seniors are up to it :)))|pg||
nt|mich-b: no weak 2 opening by Jason?|pg||
nt|csimon: it will be here too if Jason gets active|pg||
nt|mich-b: I think Jason's failing to open will enable the Japanese to find they lack the @H control|pg||
nt|scotty: Hampson may let this go|pg||
nt|kista: no sry|pg||
nt|mcphee: 3NT will be 2 or 3 down|pg||
nt|mcphee: mind you a @h lead will be interesting|pg||
nt|kista: Was made at the other table !|pg||
nt|mcphee: sure because of @H lead|pg||
pc|d7|nt|dburn: Indeed, without a spade lead I guess 6@c has some sort of chance also|pg||
nt|scotty: Michael Kamil just pointed out to me that, Soloway should have cashed @dA after winning Q, THEN tap dummy in spades, leaving declarer with spade loser|pg||
nt|davpro: but it is undefeatable isn't it?|pg||
nt|roghog: Dbl = @S and another|pg||
nt|timb: only lose three spades and a diamond?|pg||
nt|Walddk2: El Kourdy still in the tank after high club, spade switch to jack and ace|pg||
nt|brolucius: I hope the Chinese E-W realise that it is not too late to make a monumental blunder...|pg||
nt|tsanders: 5@d is a very good contract. Can they bid it to there?|pg||
nt|odysseus69: this time got to avoid 5 Ds and play 3NT- seems routine-famous last words|pg||
nt|csimon: see you back in an hour or so for USA2/Italy and USA1/Netherlands|pg||
nt|mcphee: 6@D 1@H and the @C endplay gives 9|pg||
nt|kista: I am told @c K was bared by South and dropped by Tewari|pg||
nt|mcphee: 3@D is alerted?|pg||
nt|kista: South gets strip squeezed |pg||
pc|d5|nt|davpro: not really...to become declarer?|pg||
nt|dinos1: no - I dont like 1N with 5M and controllish jand|pg||
nt|lesniak: sure|pg||
nt|davpro: me2.|pg||
nt|brolucius: It makes little difference, as the cards lie, since 2@S will buy it.|pg||
nt|henryb: I will be here also|pg||
nt|Walddk2: Sweden have advanced to 7th place and a qualifying spot now! Still early days though|pg||
nt|gerben42: this is the 3rd variation of 1@C, the one that never comes up|pg||
pc|dA|nt|lesniak: he had a lot of chance to beat 3 diamonds|pg||
nt|desert: yes there is a knockout phase for the seniors this year.....|pg||
nt|hedyg: Finally thanks to the World Bridge Federation and its president, José Damiani, for their support and for letting us broadcast from this the most prestigious bridge event in the ...|pg||
nt|hedyg: world.|pg||
nt|brolucius: East will double for take-out|pg||
nt|brolucius: But West will feel restrained by the score.|pg||
nt|csimon: last board - thank you to the WBF, Jpse Damiani, our fabulous operator, my wonderful co-commentators and all the specs|pg||
nt|brolucius: West still worth 2@S over 2@D|pg||
nt|csimon: we restart 18:30 Paris, 12:30 NY - don't miss it!|pg||
nt|Walddk4: Japan vs. England (BB)|pg||
nt|csimon: sorry Jose :))|pg||
nt|Walddk4: IN 1 hour and 20 minutes|pg||
nt|brolucius: My wife did bring me some tea (and a biscuit), so I am not totally forgotten.|pg||
nt|csimon: and thanks most of all to BBO!|pg||
nt|brolucius: Yes, indeed.|pg||
nt|brolucius: Particularly their super graphics.|pg||
nt|brolucius: Nice graphics, shame about the commentators...|pg||
nt|brolucius: Egyptian women made 5@D N-S and 4@H E-W, I am told.|pg||
nt|brolucius: South seems to have the world's most obvious 2@D bid, so I fear a crash of some sort|pg||
nt|tsanders: maybe 3@d|pg||
nt|scotty: Now definitewly|pg||
nt|mcphee: i was going to respond 2@D to stayman but have enough @D to bid 3|pg||
pc|d9|pg||
nt|mich-b: Thanks all , have to leave now , enjoy the rest of the match!|pg||
nt|Walddk4: BB and VC stand for Bermuda Bowl and Venice Cup|pg||
nt|szalay: its a meckwell 3N hand|pg||
nt|odysseus69: 3d-3s-3nt|pg||
nt|scotty: Pretty sound favorable 3@h bid|pg||
pc|d6|nt|szalay: likely push|pg||
nt|dburn: Maybe, against Meckwell, South could take his chances with a double of 3NT. Very risky indeed, though.|pg||
nt|hedyg: Play will resume at 12:30 NY,18:30 Paris with a round 12 match in the Bermuda Bowl: Italy vs Sweden |pg||
nt|hedyg: 1nt =14-17|pg||
nt|Walddk4: And don't forget the bonus match in 1½ hours: Netherlands vs. USA2 (BB)|pg||
nt|desert: what does 2 Cl show?|pg||
nt|swanson: @CK lead gives declarer an easy 8 tricks.|pg||
nt|Walddk4: BB = Open series, VC = women's series, SB = Seniors Bowl|pg||
nt|csimon: you better be Henry @h|pg||
pc|dJ|nt|camacho: I´m seeing 7 losers: 3@h, 2@c and 2@d|pg||
nt|szalay: 23 hcp but making|pg||
nt|roghog: With reference to an earlier hand, we see he doesn't lead a high card from 10-9|pg||
nt|tsanders: wow, nothing!|pg||
pc|dK|nt|dinos1: 4@h - Hx|pg||
nt|henryb: I would treat as 18 with no Jacks and a 5 card suit|pg||
nt|hedyg: yesssssssssssssss as well!|pg||
nt|csimon: I said the Chinese were very aggressive bidders - I wonder who is sitting in their chairs|pg||
nt|brolucius: South must be wishing now that she had bid earlier. Perhaps this is the mistake that we have been praying for...|pg||
nt|brolucius: Not that it will entirely close the gap.|pg||
nt|Walddk2: Might as well go for 6 since 5 is down too|pg||
nt|mich-b: Actually looking at the bidding at the CR , I am surprised East didn't lead a @H|pg||
nt|bjacobs: Yes, the one with short diamonds 11-16|pg||
pc|d8|pg||
nt|cuttysark: Sorry - did not spot that fifth club!|pg||
nt|henryb: Looks like 6 losers, but I think he will make it|pg||
nt|swanson: This is OK also.|pg||
nt|cuttysark: Easier to play than 1NT!|pg||
nt|henryb: Friendly lead|pg||
nt|eggy: Thus nearly wrong sideing it|pg||
pc|d3|nt|szalay: 6 tricks for defence|pg||
nt|dburn: Myabe, but two down is certainly possible|pg||
nt|kista: Choksi contemplating a non-@h lead|pg||
nt|mcphee: now up to N to not lead@H and he didn't|pg||
pc|dT|pc|d2|nt|dinos1: to X he has to have sure entry - ace|pg||
nt|hedyg: how bad is 4@s?|pg||
nt|odysseus69: whats going on here|pg||
nt|Walddk2: Those who won't be here had better have a very good excuse, and please don't message me to tell what that excuse is :-)|pg||
pc|s4|pg||
nt|hedyg: -3?|pg||
nt|mich-b: the bidding definetly suggested an aggressive lead|pg||
nt|csimon: wd Justin!|pg||
nt|swanson: Even 5@D fails with a heart lead.|pg||
nt|dburn: Well, it was a four or seven hand|pg||
pc|h2|nt|scotty: If N leads @s SIX against 3N doubled, declarer could make, David|pg||
nt|davpro: this is getting high|pg||
nt|dinos1: well - on diff waves|pg||
nt|dinos1: Martens was searching best game|pg||
nt|davpro: perhaps...would be a good sac...|pg||
nt|hedyg: just might be|pg||
nt|roghog: I'm told a NS save went for 1100, but that was NZ in 4@h :-(|pg||
nt|hedyg: lol|pg||
nt|hedyg: doesnt really answer my question;)|pg||
nt|davpro: on the bidding declarer "knows" spades are 4-4...so play should be faster then this....|pg||
nt|eggy: Whereas in the women, 7 teams pretty secure, and just between Austria Canada and maybe Japan  for 8th|pg||
nt|kista: well done|pg||
pc|hA|nt|csimon: 4nt by N?|pg||
pc|h5|nt|brolucius: Wow! A firework display to end the match.|pg||
nt|odysseus69: 5 clubs seemed to deny major suit controls|pg||
nt|jallerton: yes, the leading teams in the ladies' event have rather higher scores|pg||
pc|h4|pg||
nt|frenske: in 5c! you have already a lot of work i think this to high|pg||
nt|hedyg: he cant lose more than 3@ss and 1@d|pg||
nt|henryb: Looks like 2 down|pg||
nt|nickf: the swan score site has egypt leading 31/30|pg||
nt|cuttysark: Points for style|pg||
nt|roghog: Difficult to Vugraph with screens. We may have missed an overtrick|pg||
nt|csimon: better to bid 7, never get a @h lead then|pg||
nt|mich-b: Thanks all|pg||
nt|henryb: Bet she makes 3|pg||
pc|c5|nt|mcphee: good bye dagher|pg||
pc|c4|nt|frenske: 5@c|pg||
nt|dinos1: Jassem took it as slam bidding|pg||
nt|dburn: I suppose he could. Bad hand for top of nothing.|pg||
nt|scotty: Seems as if there may be some confusion about E 3@c bid - perhaps W expected E to double 2@s with this shape, and expected E to be more distributional|pg||
nt|nickf: a spec points out that 3NT was down 2 here on Bd 12|pg||
nt|dburn: I think 4@d was keycard Blackwood|pg||
nt|eggy: no shortage of swings here|pg||
pc|c7|nt|davpro: I hope declarer will not use the same tactic as in 3@ds....it could be 25 minutes wasted then :-)|pg||
nt|lesniak: martens has a lot of options - no one is goog enough|pg||
nt|hedyg: i cant find anything about it in the notes|pg||
nt|odysseus69: going back to last- when Fantoni bid 3 nt with known single C stop he had to have solid diamonds - if only six  then surely 2 other- winners - I am sure that club lead was wrong|pg||
nt|brolucius: Club leads will force the dummy's trump honours and promote the jack of trumps|pg||
nt|tsanders: takes another @c to set it|pg||
nt|csimon: where did Dhondy find that great 4@s bid?|pg||
nt|Walddk4: I think there is time to do it later|pg||
nt|brolucius: No, any continuation wins (according to DF)|pg||
nt|Walddk2: Our other 2 matches today will feature USA2 vs. Brazil (15.00 Paris, 9:00 am New York) and USA1 vs. Italy (18.30 Paris, 12:30 pm New York). Both matches from the Bermuda Bowl ... ...|pg||
nt|Walddk2: and if we are lucky, perhaps a bonus match |pg||
nt|Walddk2: After the final round this evening in Portugal, the pairings for the quarter-finals will be decided. Teams ranked 1st, 2nd and 3rd will choose their opponents from among the teams ...|pg||
nt|Walddk2: ranked 5th through 8th.|pg||
pc|c8|pg||
nt|desert: is 31 IMPs still 23:7?|pg||
nt|Walddk2: No, 22-8|pg||
nt|mich-b: you won the bet, Henry|pg||
pc|cA|nt|szalay: i doubt anything but pass|pg||
nt|hedyg: X by a passed hand would show @cs|pg||
nt|csimon: that's 'cause it's probably natural|pg||
nt|hedyg: but Dano wasnt|pg||
nt|mich-b: probably 3@D showed a solid suit|pg||
nt|dburn: Mind you, I'm not sure why you'd want to use keycard Blackwood|pg||
pc|c3|pc|sT|nt|nickf: declarer lost 2 spades and 4 diamonds|pg||
nt|Zmud99: i tried to find the "famous" trick but i can't|pg||
nt|jallerton: South should get the @s suit right after West's double|pg||
nt|eggy: Can 1st choose 2nd (in theory)?|pg||
pc|cK|pg||
nt|Walddk2: No|pg||
pc|dQ|nt|roghog: Or Swan may be wrong. Hope so, as they have England losing 11-19 :-(|pg||
nt|cuttysark: But he made 5 clubs, 2 hearts and @SA|pg||
nt|nickf: maybe it was bd 5|pg||
pc|hQ|nt|jallerton: I mean overcall|pg||
nt|Walddk2: Read again|pg||
pc|sQ|nt|Walddk4: Now the club must come|pg||
nt|brolucius: Yes|pg||
pc|d4|pg||
nt|scotty: He will start with @d finesse - that should speed things up.  Maybe lay down @HK first|pg||
nt|brolucius: Yes!!!|pg||
nt|Zmud99: we will get an extra match...sure now :)|pg||
nt|eggy: just asking|pg||
pc|c9|nt|csimon: EW have a touch-and-go vul game, so +300 should be adequate compensation|pg||
nt|Walddk2: Must choose from 5-8|pg||
pc|sK|pc|h7|pc|c2|pg||
nt|hedyg: oh!|pg||
pc|hK|nt|hedyg: no squeeze, 9 tricks|pg||
nt|eggy: I don't think that Tewari's drop of the King will be the talking point over dinner|pg||
pc|h3|pc|cJ|nt|Walddk4: Liu didn't give it much thought|pg||
nt|kista: Already 118 imps exchanged !|pg||
pc|h6|pg||
nt|lesniak: good|pg||
nt|henryb: Once again 3N is cold, but hard to get to with the major fit|pg||
nt|hedyg: 14-17 is a wide range|pg||
nt|csimon: 4@h is not exactly a claimer... but it did make in the CR|pg||
nt|hedyg: welcome imps to Italy?|pg||
nt|csimon: that's what my spy tells me :)|pg||
nt|hedyg: lol|pg||
nt|mcphee: n/s were closer to 3NT it seems|pg||
pc|s5|nt|camacho: 2 down now|pg||
nt|Walddk4: Had she given up?|pg||
pc|s6|nt|brolucius: Not a crumb but a HUGE CAKE, right at the end.|pg||
pc|s8|nt|cuttysark: We are all getting tired...|pg||
pc|h8|pg||
nt|jbgood: so 37-15 then, what is that in VPs?|pg||
nt|bjacobs: South has got into a bit of a mess here|pg||
nt|mcphee: so a good lead from N adds a few more imps|pg||
pc|hJ|pc|s7|nt|dinos1: needs @d fin|pg||
nt|hedyg: :)|pg||
pc|c6|nt|dinos1: @s now|pg||
pc|s2|pg||
nt|cuttysark: (Some of us started tired)|pg||
nt|roghog: Specs think El K made an extra overtrick in 3NT in the Closed|pg||
pc|hT|nt|henryb: Garrozzo might misguess this|pg||
nt|hedyg: Sontag Xed 2@c!|pg||
nt|henryb: So, He doubled spades with three|pg||
nt|hedyg: that was practically obligatory:))|pg||
pc|sJ|nt|hedyg: 5@d is encouraging|pg||
nt|Walddk4: and only 17-13 to China now|pg||
nt|csimon: Wang totally shut down in the auction - must've gotten tired of bidding|pg||
nt|tsanders: next matches: 12:30 pm New York, 18:30 Paris, 5:30 pm London, 2:30 am Sydney*|pg||
nt|csimon: thanx everyone - see you soon|pg||
nt|brolucius: Chinese will be disappointed with 17 after that domination. Still, they did poorly on the last board here.|pg||
nt|Walddk4: Thanks everyone for coming this afternoon|pg||
nt|tsanders: thx all for coming @h|pg||
nt|brolucius: Many thanks to our splendid VG operator!|pg||
nt|Walddk4: Hope you enjoyed the show. Much more to come from Estoril|pg||
nt|Walddk4: Next time is in 1 hour and 10 minutes|pg||
nt|Walddk4: Bye for now|pg||
nt|Walddk4: Japan vs. England (Bermuda Bowl) next up|pg||
pc|cT|pc|s3|pg||
nt|hedyg: odd/even discards|pg||
nt|jbgood: 20-10 confirmed by several - |pg||
nt|henryb: Better clue is that he did not transfer, so Weichsel had 5 hearts|pg||
nt|hedyg: bravo Papi:)|pg||
nt|jbgood: nice match!|pg||
nt|hedyg: ty all for coming! hope you enjoyed|pg||
nt|csimon: see you all later!|pg||
nt|hedyg: see you all in 1 hour and 20 minutes!|pg||
nt|jbgood: y - c u - bye|pg||
nt|desert: bye and thanks all|pg||
pc|h9|pc|sA|pc|cQ|nt|dinos1: didnt guess|pg||
nt|scotty: So declarer won @hK in dummy to attack J1032 opposite K9 doubleton - I don't think so!|pg||
pc|s9|pg||
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